Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-15 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com wrote: The advantage of a proposal and discussion is that it improves documentation. +1 and that's already good enough no ? Although I did not myself check this proposal, the feedbacks seem to express a good idea but a lack of

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/15 Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com 1. There are no absolute rules as to when it is approved/rejected (and I can understand that) there are for voting: we require at least 15 votes and a majority of yes votes. Of course a won voting doesn't make your tag approved or used by the

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-15 Thread Pee Wee
1. There are no absolute rules as to when it is approved/rejected (and I can understand that) there are for voting: we require at least 15 votes and a majority of yes votes. Of course a won voting doesn't make your tag approved or used by the community. 2. For some reason it

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread Erik Johansson
I agree with Martin the voting is meaningless for this, you will have to prove that this is usefull in some way first then post the proposal again. Show us how routers should use the data and how invasive this tagging is. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com wrote: @

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread Masi Master
Yes, it will be included in the new proposal. PeeWee32 created an example of routing the SHORTEST way: http://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=52.508705%2C13.273662point=52.509385%2C13.270111vehicle=BIKElocale=nl Am 14.12.2013, 14:25 Uhr, schrieb Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com: I agree with

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread fly
Am 14.12.2013 15:18, schrieb Masi Master: Yes, it will be included in the new proposal. PeeWee32 created an example of routing the SHORTEST way: http://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=52.508705%2C13.273662point=52.509385%2C13.270111vehicle=BIKElocale=nl Am 14.12.2013, 14:25 Uhr, schrieb Erik

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 13 December 2013 19:37, Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com wrote: We want to thank all the contributors to this discussion. We think and hope we have enough information to work on new proposal. Thank you for not giving up, and for trying to improve the proposal. I think many of the no-votes were

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-14 Thread Pee Wee
Thanks Matthijs, Fly, Erik ,Ilpo and Martin for your reply. I’ll say a few words on how I look at the matter. I have not discussed all this with co-author MasiMaster so this is my personal view. *Proposal process (with or without voting) * As Fly stated a proposal is not needed to start using

[Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-13 Thread Pee Wee
Today the voting of the bicycle=use_cyclewayhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bicycle_use_cyclewayended. Voting results: Yes: 10 (not counting the 2 that made the proposal) No: 11 Abstain: 3 This is reason enough for us to work on a better proposal so we reject the

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-13 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Pee Wee wrote: Today the voting of the bicycle=use_cycleway ended.  Voting results:   Yes:  10 (not counting the 2 that made the proposal)  No:  11  Abstain:  3   This is reason enough for us to work on a better proposal so we reject the current one. We want

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/13 Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com Today the voting of the bicycle=use_cyclewayhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bicycle_use_cyclewayended. Voting results: Yes: 10 (not counting the 2 that made the proposal) No: 11 Abstain: 3 This is reason enough for us

Re: [Tagging] End voting bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-13 Thread Pee Wee
@ Martin I understand what you are saying. With regard to routing I did not expect we had to explain why it could be improved by this new tag. There have been some examples like this onehttp://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=52.508705%2C13.273662point=52.509385%2C13.270111vehicle=BIKElocale=nlshowing