Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-08-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ferries are a bit like motorways with tolls, but I don't know what is used on motorways around the world. Fee=yes? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-08-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Ferries are a bit like motorways with tolls, but I don't know what is used on motorways around the world. Fee=yes? Washington State has the largest ferry system in the US. Check out http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/ for

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-08-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 19:00 +, Janko Mihelić wrote: Ferries are a bit like motorways with tolls, but I don't know what is used on motorways around the world. Fee=yes? 'barrier=toll booth' is used for motorway tolls, and for access to ferry terminals, these work fine. The problem I was

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-08-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 00:22 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote: I think access=fee, or access=yes + fee=yes would be appropriate. How do access=fee compare with access=customers in existing usage? (I tried to look it up myself on tagwatch, but my phone didn't like it much) The entry barriers were

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-07-31 Thread Philip Barnes
This thread has prompted me to look at the ferry routes around the UK, and why only certain one are working. The biggest problems I have found, and so far fixed, are not the ferry routes themselves but the access within the ports. A lot of access roads have been tagged to prohibit access (private

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-07-31 Thread LM_1
At the same time there are gates and the access is usually not free for everyone. So access=yes is in fact wrong in some cases. Something like access=customers (passengers of the ferry) might be the middle ground acceptable for both sides. Not knowing how different routers use access I believe

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-07-31 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 31.07.2012 22:50, schrieb LM_1: Not knowing how different routers use access I believe that ways marked as access=customers should be routed with some sort of warning. The same goes for access=private. Quite commonly the real final destination would be in some limited access area and so

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-07-31 Thread David ``Smith''
I think access=fee, or access=yes + fee=yes would be appropriate. How do access=fee compare with access=customers in existing usage? (I tried to look it up myself on tagwatch, but my phone didn't like it much) On Jul 31, 2012 5:59 PM, Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de wrote: Am 31.07.2012

[Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread sabas88
Hi, I started discussing in the local list about the approach in tagging ferry routes. The wiki page [0] seems a little bit unclear, leaving two approaches: -normal way between harbours -relation like a normal road. I tried to follow the relation approach like I saw in other seas, but I cannot

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/3 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: -normal way between harbours -relation like a normal road. So, my question is: it's fault of the tagging or the routing? What's the correct way of tagging? [0]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dferry It seems that the idea to use relations is

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: (But strangely the wiki diff doesn't highlight this, maybe a bug?) I filed a ticket for this: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4427 cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 11:05 +0200, sabas88 wrote: Hi, I started discussing in the local list about the approach in tagging ferry routes. The wiki page [0] seems a little bit unclear, leaving two approaches: -normal way between harbours -relation like a normal road. I tried to follow the

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread sabas88
2012/6/3 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk [cut] Dover-Calais does seem to work well, you may get some ideas there. http://map.project-osrm.org/xR Thanks, seems similar to how I made the routes in Genoa, we'll see at the next OSRM update how it behaves... I don't understand why way