[Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, Let me introduce you to one of London's better cycleways: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.53397/-0.00715 https://cycle.travel/map?lat=51.5254&lon=-0.0335&zoom=17 You might look at this and think "that doesn't look like 'better' to me, it's full of 45-degree bends". And based o

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hi Richard I'd tag this situation with cycleway=track/lane/shared_lane on the road itself. I don't see the namespacing as an issue here. The rule of thumb I (we?) use to decide whether a cycleway shall better be tagged as a separate way is to look if the cycleway is segregated from the road by

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
Tagging of properties of the track should be no problem: cycleway:left=track cycleway:left:width=3 cycleway:left:surface=asphalt ... On Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 12:01 Tobias Zwick, wrote: > Hi Richard > > I'd tag this situation with cycleway=track/lane/shared_lane on the road > itself. I don't see the

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 27. März 2019 um 12:39 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > Tagging of properties of the track should be no problem: > cycleway:left=track > cycleway:left:width=3 > cycleway:left:surface=asphalt > ... > if the cycleway is a track it can become a problem, because tracks tend to have different

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread althio
> This is correctish in terms of tagging but not in terms of geometry. > [...] Breaking geometry to enable tagging is bad in itself, misleading on > renderings, and unsurprisingly confuses the heck out of routers. Indeed. Either as cycleway=track/lane on car road (all along) or as a separate way

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 16:14 althio, wrote: > Route relation membership cannot be clearly and separately applied > with namespacing, it requires a separate objet [1]. > I do not see any problem with that. I have been including roads with cycleway=lane routinely in bicycle routes. > > > ... or ...

Re: [Tagging] Intermittently unprotected cycle track

2019-03-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Thanks everyone for the comments! althio wrote: > My preference would be to keep the geometry, map it as a continuous > highway=cycleway. > For the bits without divider, I don't like protected=no however. > I would go with no additional tagging, and more geometry (as you said: > crossings and junc