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On 19. Mai 2015 03:18:14 MESZ, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
there’s no preset “I want to add a business” or “I want to add a park”
tutorials that walk through the basics and hold your hand, bring up
options and ask you natural language
johnw wrote:
As far as I can tell, the differences between novices like me and more
power users is a) using JSOM or similar, and b) using relations. that
is an insanely high bar to jump over.
I'll let you into another secret.
Of the 5% of mappers doing 95% of the work... most are not
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We don't have access to non - editing accounts, speculating on the composition
of them is just that. We do know that not all of the roughly 1.5 million are
spammers, See my two recent diary posts for more,
On 19. Mai 2015 04:55:30 MESZ, Bryce
On 19 May 2015 at 02:18, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
On May 19, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:
You might ask, so what is keeping people from editing?
We don’t need to speculate. It’s easy to understand what is holding people
back.
It’s the same thing
Am 19.05.2015 um 01:47 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
How about if first edits caused some sort of flag that experienced users see,
and can welcome and thank the new user
for registering and contributing. This is possible now, but not really part
of the standard tool set
On 19/05/2015, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
On 19. Mai 2015 03:18:14 MESZ, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
there’s no preset “I want to add a business” or “I want to add a park”
tutorials that walk through the basics and hold your hand, bring up
options and ask you natural language
If I would get such a survey from any of the tens of webapps for which I
created a account that I used once, the answer would be something like
I wanted to know what this service is about, and so I added my house. But
this is not something I to do during my spare time for a longer period.
I
On 19/05/2015 11:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 19.05.2015 um 01:47 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
How about if first edits caused some sort of flag that experienced users see,
and can welcome and thank the new user
for registering and contributing. This is possible now, but
W dniu 19.05.2015 14:25, SomeoneElse napisał(a):
Also, it's worth mentioning that despite people sometimes describing
OSM as unfriendly the vast majority of changeset discussion
comments, especially to new users, are very friendly and happy to
help.
That's why I want to have some hard data:
Am 19.05.2015 um 14:40 schrieb Daniel Koć:
W dniu 19.05.2015 14:25, SomeoneElse napisał(a):
Also, it's worth mentioning that despite people sometimes describing
OSM as unfriendly the vast majority of changeset discussion
comments, especially to new users, are very friendly and happy to
W dniu 19.05.2015 16:48, Simon Poole napisał(a):
There has been at least one study which gave indications why people
stop
contributing (main reason given was time). I don't think that we are
This is really something we can't improve, sure. =} But even if it was
as high as 75% (another wild
This talk by Richard Fairhurst suggests that 5% of mappers do 95% of work.
So it's more important to find those few dedicated mappers and make their
life easier, than to cater to the 95%.
http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68097488
Janko
ned, 17. svi 2015. 07:43
W dniu 18.05.2015 19:24, Clifford Snow napisał(a):
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com
wrote:
This talk by Richard Fairhurst suggests that 5% of mappers do 95% of
work. So it's more important to find those few dedicated mappers and
So I probably misunderstood the
On 18 May 2015 at 18:24, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
This talk by Richard Fairhurst suggests that 5% of mappers do 95% of
work. So it's more important to find those few dedicated mappers and make
their
W dniu 18.05.2015 20:02, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
I disagree with this approach as it's targeted. Can we moderately
safely assume new users edit with iD ? Can we not use that interface
to offer a 'feedback' link available to all ? Even if it simply points
to a dedicated wiki page for different
On 18 May 2015 at 19:16, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
W dniu 18.05.2015 20:02, pmailkeey . napisał(a):
I disagree with this approach as it's targeted. Can we moderately
safely assume new users edit with iD ? Can we not use that interface
to offer a 'feedback' link available to all ? Even
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:
I invite each user to join our Meetup Group and invite them to contact me
if they have any questions. The response rate is low. A survey could help
us identify why they joined, how they want to use OSM and what
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
This talk by Richard Fairhurst suggests that 5% of mappers do 95% of work.
So it's more important to find those few dedicated mappers and make
On May 19, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
You might ask, so what is keeping people from editing?
We don’t need to speculate. It’s easy to understand what is holding people back.
It’s the same thing that hold people back from replacing the brakes on their
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:
In the last week,11-May to 17-May, OSM increased the number of users [1]
by 10,700. Think of the results if each of those new users were to add just
one edit a week. You might ask, so what is keeping people from
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
Let's use human power, not spam power.
How about if first edits caused some sort of flag that experienced users
see, and can welcome and thank the new user
for registering and contributing. This is possible now, but
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote:
My long tail intuition are now supported by a scientific study called
Characterizing the Heterogeneity of the OpenStreetMap Data and Community,
and we know even how much advanced users are there! The abstract says:
All three
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
wrote:
I did wonder about the statement ... about 500 users in the core group of
the OSM are highly networked in terms of collaboration.
I wonder about that too. Someone compiled a list of the most active users
on OSM
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