Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 8 Dec 2016, at 02:15, Alejandro S. wrote: >> Some are indeed better tagged with amenity=cafe > > > > > And maybe some of them as amenity=pub? maybe in very few exceptions, usually not. There are pubs in Italy and they are completely different from bars. Pubs also ha

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Alejandro S.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 23:41 Volker Schmidt wrote: > The correct tagging would certainly be "amenity" with several values, > separated by semicolons. > That's allowed by the osm data structure. We (try to) avoid it because of > the inherent problems with the subsequent rendering. > Maybe we could

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Alejandro S.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 21:36 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 7 Dec 2016, at 21:00, ksg wrote: > > > > I guess caffe (espresso) is also the most _important_ served item and > justifies amenity=cafe for an Italian „bar" > > > for me, amenity=cafe implies tables and chairs

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Alejandro S.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 21:02 ksg wrote: > > Am 07.12.2016 um 11:26 schrieb Volker Schmidt : > > The situation in Italy is similar. > > In my area (Veneto) they are mostly tagged as amenity=cafe, I suppose > that is because this is the most frequently served item. > > > I guess caffe (espresso) is a

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Alejandro S.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 11:27 Volker Schmidt wrote: > The situation in Italy is similar. > In my area (Veneto) they are mostly tagged as amenity=cafe, I suppose that > is because this is the most frequently served item. > Maybe amenity=cafe it's wrong, but would you tag those establishments (that a

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Alejandro S.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, 10:07 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 7 Dec 2016, at 02:32, Alejandro S. wrote: > > That looks like the definition of a Spanish "*bar*", why not use the tag > that describe that concept, amenity=pub. > > > > if amenity=pub fits the thing you want to

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
The correct tagging would certainly be "amenity" with several values, separated by semicolons. That's allowed by the osm data structure. We (try to) avoid it because of the inherent problems with the subsequent rendering. Maybe we could do it in the way the ingredients are listed on food stuff: a

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread ksg
> Am 07.12.2016 um 21:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : > > sent from a phone > > for me, amenity=cafe implies tables and chairs, many bars don't have tables, > just a bar. I admit that an Italian bar is different from a german cafe in almost each and every way ;) But amongst the alternative

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7 Dec 2016, at 21:00, ksg wrote: > > I guess caffe (espresso) is also the most _important_ served item and > justifies amenity=cafe for an Italian „bar" for me, amenity=cafe implies tables and chairs, many bars don't have tables, just a bar. There's a wide range of p

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread ksg
> Am 07.12.2016 um 11:26 schrieb Volker Schmidt : > The situation in Italy is similar. > In my area (Veneto) they are mostly tagged as amenity=cafe, I suppose that is > because this is the most frequently served item. I guess caffe (espresso) is also the most _important_ served item and justifie

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Volker Schmidt
The situation in Italy is similar. In my area (Veneto) they are mostly tagged as amenity=cafe, I suppose that is because this is the most frequently served item. For me, the the English word "pub" indicates a place where the most frequently served item is beer, not food. __

Re: [Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7 Dec 2016, at 02:32, Alejandro S. wrote: > > That looks like the definition of a Spanish "bar", why not use the tag that > describe that concept, amenity=pub. if amenity=pub fits the thing you want to tag, just use this tag > > That exception looks like it was wri

[Tagging] Mediterranean "bar" aka pub

2016-12-06 Thread Alejandro S.
Hi! I'm from Spain and I found surprising the fact that in the wiki there are an exception in the bar tag[0] about the Mediterranean ones: In Mediterranean countries, the word "bar" has a different meaning > (although this doesn't necessarily mean the tag should be applied > differently). Here a