Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 6/29/19 08:05, "Christian Müller" via Tagging wrote: > The intriguing question is: Please (again!), move this to legal-talk or elsewhere. It has no place on the tagging list. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-29 Thread Christian Müller
The intriguing question is: Does use of OSM in commercial products make OSM a commercial product? IMHO it does not. This would blow any license like PD, BSD, etc.: Just because companies /use/ what's available on an open basis, doesn't change the status of the objects used. The OSM foundation

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
At this point the discussion should really be continued (a) under another subject and (b) on a different mailing list (maybe legal-talk?) Bye Frederik On 26.06.19 07:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 26 Jun 2019, 00:01 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > > in particular for non-commercial and

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26 Jun 2019, 00:01 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > in particular for non-commercial and scientific use > This are not relevant at all, OSM data is not restricted in how it can be used. > I don't know to what extent this is applicable for an international > project such as OSM, but there are

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Marc Gemis
ational aspect of OSM. > > > Greetings > cmuelle8 > > [1] > https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/urhg/BJNR012730965.html#BJNR012730965BJNG004800123 > > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Juni 2019 um 12:19 Uhr > > Von: "Frederik Ramm" > > An: tagging@

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Christian Müller
30965.html#BJNR012730965BJNG004800123 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Juni 2019 um 12:19 Uhr > Von: "Frederik Ramm" > An: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm > > You cannot continue to use one inadmissible source and then

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hello Ulrich, this is offtopic here but I'd like to say something anyway since you started the discussion here. Your are blocked from editing until we can trust you to respect our rules. This is a process that has to happen in your head. I would have hoped that you understood the issue but time

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25 Jun 2019, 11:18 by f...@zz.de: > > Hi Ulrich, > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:16:18AM +0200, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > >> This way, my mapping of courses of water including the culvert >> sections does not violate the principles of OSM. And the ban is >> totally injust. >> > > It violates the

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Ulrich, On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:16:18AM +0200, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > This way, my mapping of courses of water including the culvert > sections does not violate the principles of OSM. And the ban is > totally injust. It violates the rights of the origin copyright holder. CC-BY-SA and

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 25 June 2019, Ulrich Lamm wrote: > Ten hours ago, user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm has banned me for TEN > YAERS! For what? > For mapping courses of water. > Before, he had blocked me or using database data. > [...] For competeness of information and for everyone to properly assess this,

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Simon Poole
Besides being off-topic here, 99.9% of the background is missing. Perma-bans for contributors in OSM are extremely rare and definitely not imposed lightly, just as they are not in this case: see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ulamm/blocks for just a tiny bit of the very long story behind this.

Re: [Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread marc marc
Le 25.06.19 à 10:16, Ulrich Lamm a écrit : > the ban is totally injust. add injust=maybe or find a better place to talk about not-related-to-tags stuff ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] My ban by user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm

2019-06-25 Thread Ulrich Lamm
Ten hours ago, user Woodpeck = Frederik Ramm has banned me for TEN YAERS! For what? For mapping courses of water. Before, he had blocked me or using database data. I ceased to enter figures that were available from databasaes only. Then he blocked me for using figures from PDFs that could be