Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 24. März 2020 um 05:28 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > ...the centre of Paris in a Nolliplan: http://www.iad > bs.de/site/assets/files/1954/schwarzplan.jpg > > > All the areas where the streets widen significantly at junctions with > other streets are

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 24. März 2020 um 05:25 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > "Here’s an example of a square in Berlin in a residential early 20th > century area:" > > Is this mapped as a leisure=park in Openstreetmap? If so, then I don't > see any need to also map the same area as

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> ...the centre of Paris in a Nolliplan: http://www.iad > bs.de/site/assets/files/1954/schwarzplan.jpg > All the areas where the streets widen significantly at junctions with other > streets are likely squares (you can’t see the smaller ones in this scale). > The surrounding buildings will

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
"Here’s an example of a square in Berlin in a residential early 20th century area:" Is this mapped as a leisure=park in Openstreetmap? If so, then I don't see any need to also map the same area as a square. > I would still count them in, or we will end up splitting hair about how much > of a

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Mar 2020, at 15:07, Joseph Eisenberg > In Indonesia an "alun-alun" is never small, they are always rather > large to very large open areas. so these are likely not the only kind of squares in Indonesia (if you decide they are squares at all, or some of them), there

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
Although in Portugal squares are very well defined, either from their physical significance or from their name, this is surely not the case in every country. Maybe one of their main common characteristics is that they're open urban areas, a point of confluence where people can gather for social

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Volker Schmidt
Please leave the description vague. Every one of us will be able to come up with a list of "squares" that don't fulfil the criteria we will define. They often have the role of landmarks for the population, long after the original square (as empty space for the people) has disappeared. Or maybe a

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> reads "A town or village square: a hardscaped open public space, generally > of architectural significance, which is surrounded by buildings in a > built-up area such as a city, town or village." > > While I do not object that this is describing a part of all squares, I do > object that these

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 at 09:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > From photos it is hard to judge these, because you would usually need to > see the context in order to understand whether these are just parks or > parks on squares. I also notice that these are all huge. Try to think of > small

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 23. März 2020 um 09:56 Uhr schrieb Lionel Giard < lionel.gi...@gmail.com>: > My only problem with "fixing unnamed place=square" is that i know at least > 2 locations where the village center open area is definitely a place=square > (i.e. an open area with some car parks, and open just in

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 23. März 2020 um 06:26 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > "Praça ou largo: Praça, praceta ou largo: espaço numa zona urbana, > normalmente sem edifícios (apenas a volta desta), que constitui um > espaço público aberto" > > This translates back to English as

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-23 Thread Lionel Giard
My only problem with "fixing unnamed place=square" is that i know at least 2 locations where the village center open area is definitely a place=square (i.e. an open area with some car parks, and open just in front of the church that was historically the place for gathering people but also cattle

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> the keywords from the preset translation Yes, thank you. (Sorry, I use a satellite internet connection, so iD doesn't work too well for me): "Praça ou largo: Praça, praceta ou largo: espaço numa zona urbana, normalmente sem edifícios (apenas a volta desta), que constitui um espaço público

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread António Madeira
In Portuguese it's "Praça", similar to Piazza, which comes from the Latin "platea". Depending on its size and location, it can be named officially as "Praça", "Largo"or "Praceta". The English description of place=square in iD is empty. https://i.imgur.com/AIqEuuC.png Às 21:41 de 22/03/2020,

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Curious: what is the translation used in Portuguese? Do you also know the English description of place=square used in iD? On 3/23/20, António Madeira wrote: > I agree that the place=square needs some kind of polishing, specially > regarding name tag, which should be mandatory. > In Portugal,

Re: [Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread António Madeira
I agree that the place=square needs some kind of polishing, specially regarding name tag, which should be mandatory. In Portugal, the definition of square can have three meanings, depending on its size and region, but it's easy to map them because they all have name. The problem with iD can be

[Tagging] Please fix unnamed square tagging / was: ... description of place=square

2020-03-22 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Yes there is inconsistent use of place=square, in particular for _unnamed_ objects. As the place=* key is used to indicate that a particular location is known by a particular name, a place=* tag without a name is fundamentally wrong. (As the world is not black and white, there might be