Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I agree collecting this kind of information seems out of scope for OpenStreetMap, but apparently there are a bunch of open solutions available, where you might be able to contribute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_positioning_system#Public_Wi-Fi_location_databases Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-31 Thread bkil
"If someone wants to map them they can. Not up to you or me to dictate what can go into OSM." Sorry, but actually that's not the case. I can't decide to spam the database with an enormous number of entities without discussing with the local & global community. I regularly see reverts for much

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-30 Thread Warin
On 30/12/19 21:31, bkil wrote: We have similar services to those, but I wouldn't map those. If you subscribe for a high enough tier of Telekom Internet, you get access to FON. If you subscribe to UPC and enable it on your modem, you get access to UPC Wi-Free. We must not map these because

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-30 Thread bkil
We have similar services to those, but I wouldn't map those. If you subscribe for a high enough tier of Telekom Internet, you get access to FON. If you subscribe to UPC and enable it on your modem, you get access to UPC Wi-Free. We must not map these because these are not hotspots of public

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-30 Thread Warin
Some have no fee as such but linked to you opening your home wifi for use by others (telstra Australia do such a thing). I prefer access=private. On 30/12/19 09:40, bkil wrote: Okay, I guess customers may be getting a bit closer, although we would still need to convey somehow that not everyone

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-29 Thread bkil
Okay, I guess customers may be getting a bit closer, although we would still need to convey somehow that not everyone can be a customer (for example no tourists) and that I can't just show up in person to volunteer to be a customer as wit ha cafe - I need to do my "homework" of registering at home

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-29 Thread marc marc
Le 29.12.19 à 21:50, bkil a écrit : > fee=no @ register with an Italian phone number it seems to indicate that it's fee=yes if you don't register, which doesn't seem to fit with what you're saying. I prefer : internet_access:fee=customers (you need to be a customer of it... some use access for

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-29 Thread bkil
I probably wouldn't add the antenna tags either, unless it is visible and useful for navigational purposes. If possible, please add the network name as well, something like this: operator=Comune di Cividale del Friuli internet_access=wlan internet_access:ssid=FVGWiFi This is a bit sketchy

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-20 Thread marc marc
Le 20.12.19 à 15:47, Cascafico Giovanni a écrit : > > > Il mer 18 dic 2019, 16:48 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto: > > > The 'box' would contain a full access point and not just the > antenna, thus I'd prefer not to tag the > antenna alone. > > > So how to tag the whole hardware? > Shall

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-20 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Il mer 18 dic 2019, 16:48 Tom Pfeifer ha scritto: > > The 'box' would contain a full access point and not just the antenna, thus > I'd prefer not to tag the > antenna alone. > So how to tag the whole hardware? Shall I refer to Key:communication:radio:repeater? >

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Tom Pfeifer writes: > On 18.12.2019 16:26, Andy Townsend wrote: >> On 18/12/2019 15:22, Tod Fitch wrote: >>> In the U.S. it would be called wifi or wi-fi rather than >>> wlan. Anyone know what the British English is? >> In the UK it's also "wifi" or "wi-fi", but wlan is understood and >> has

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-18 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 18.12.2019 16:26, Andy Townsend wrote: On 18/12/2019 15:22, Tod Fitch wrote: In the U.S. it would be called wifi or wi-fi rather than wlan. Anyone know what the British English is? In the UK it's also "wifi" or "wi-fi", but wlan is understood and has considerable establishment in OSM:

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/12/2019 15:22, Tod Fitch wrote: In the U.S. it would be called wifi or wi-fi rather than wlan. Anyone know what the British English is? In the UK it's also "wifi" or "wi-fi", but wlan is understood and has considerable establishment in OSM:

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-18 Thread Tod Fitch
In the U.S. it would be called wifi or wi-fi rather than wlan. Anyone know what the British English is? Sent from my phone, please excuse my brevity. > On Dec 18, 2019, at 2:22 AM, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Hello ML, > which tags for those boxes, usually on pole or wall mounted which >

[Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

2019-12-18 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Hello ML, which tags for those boxes, usually on pole or wall mounted which provide free public WLAN access? In my area they are managed by municipality and are subject to registration. My tagging would be: man_made=antenna operator=Comune di Cividale del Friuli antenna:application=wlan