On 15/11/22 12:16, Matija Nalis wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via
Tagging wrote:
Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet
proposal?https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet
You mean the one that was cancelled because i
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via Tagging
wrote:
> Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet
> proposal? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet
You mean the one that was cancelled because it was a duplicate of already
existin
On 13/11/22 03:00, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote:
Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet
proposal?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet
There is a lot more to be done for something like this. It needs to
incorporate all "man made sourc
Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet
proposal? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet
I'm alright with using a name different from fountain since a lot of
people disagree on that name.
By doing all this you're effectively deprecating am
On 10/10/22 21:36, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote:
In Australia it would be unusual to find a drinking fountain without
a tap to stop the flow when a person is not drinking. I think it
could be illegal such is the scarcity of water.
Thus, I believe that a world wide default should be avoided in
>I think you're joking about the lemonade, but here's the world's
>largestfountain drink cup, now mapped in OSM:
Yes, I thought I was joking, but now you tell me it is possible! LOL
Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)
On Monday, 10 October 2022 at 20:25:53 BST, Minh Nguyen
wrote:
Vào lúc 03:0
Vào lúc 03:08 2022-10-09, Peter Neale via Tagging đã viết:
A tap is a device to control the flow of whatever liquid (or gas, I
suppose) is coming out. Potable water, non-potable water; lemonade;
petrol (gasoline), Oxygen, whatever...
I think you're joking about the lemonade, but here's th
In Australia it would be unusual to find a drinking fountain without a
tap to stop the flow when a person is not drinking. I think it could
be illegal such is the scarcity of water.
Thus, I believe that a world wide default should be avoided in favour of
local ones or enforcing explicit tagging
On 10/10/22 20:55, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote:
If it was fitted with a shower .. then it becomes a shower.
If around the pipe on which the tap is present is fitted a fountain ..
then it becomes a fountain.
Nit picking: Oxygen is a gas .. under 'normal' conditions.
Better to use the term
If it was fitted with a shower .. then it becomes a shower.
If around the pipe on which the tap is present is fitted a fountain ..
then it becomes a fountain.
Nit picking: Oxygen is a gas .. under 'normal' conditions.
Better to use the term fluid rather than liquid.
I would expect the follo
On 9/10/22 21:08, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
No, it would not "turn them into taps", but it WOULD mean that a tap
is present as part of the structure of the device.
"amenity=drinking_water; tap=yes".
If something is fitted with a tap on its outlet .. it is then a tap.
If it was fitted
On 9/10/22 21:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am So., 9. Okt. 2022 um 12:22 Uhr schrieb Minh Nguyen
:
drinking_water=no is already approved for non-potable water, and
there
are non-Boolean values and drinking_water:legal=* if you'd like to
split
hairs.
+1
I'd expec
Minh, thank you for your always-excellent research. With this recent law
(2017) about purple pipes in California and the 2015 Uniform Codes (Plumbing,
Mechanical), I stand corrected as to my “there is no color-coding” (on pipes
for reclaimed water in California).
On Oct 9, 2022, at 3:19 AM,
Am So., 9. Okt. 2022 um 12:22 Uhr schrieb Minh Nguyen <
m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>:
> drinking_water=no is already approved for non-potable water, and there
> are non-Boolean values and drinking_water:legal=* if you'd like to split
> hairs.
+1
> I'd expect that a tag for fountains and a t
Vào lúc 23:50 2022-10-08, stevea đã viết:
On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote:
Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking water .. or
'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend you boil' (more CYA?),
No, it would not "turn them into taps", but it WOULD mean that a tap is present
as part of the structure of the device. "amenity=drinking_water; tap=yes".
The water is potable and you have to operate a tap to make it flow (so you may
be OK to get a drink, but your dog might struggle and need a
On Oct 9, 2022, at 12:41 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> sent from a phone
>> On 9 Oct 2022, at 08:43, stevea wrote:
>> Tags must capture these differences, and more.
>
> and ideally they should do it in a way to reduce confusion
Yes, thank you; +1. (I forgot to add “to reduce confusion,” you
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> On 9 Oct 2022, at 08:43, stevea wrote:
>
> Tags must capture these differences, and more.
and ideally they should do it in a way to reduce confusion
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On 9/10/22 17:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote:
> Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking
water .. or 'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend
you boil' (more CYA?), and 'not suitable for drinking' (you
On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote:
>
> > Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking water .. or
> > 'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend you boil' (more CYA?),
> > and 'not suitable for drinki
What do they say about great minds, Steve? :-)
Thanks
Graeme
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:43, stevea wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:31 PM, stevea wrote:
> > Yes, taps CAN be drinking water, but not necessarily are. For example,
> a hose_bib on a residence's "backyard porch" might be designed to
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote:
>
> > Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking water ..
> or 'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend you boil' (more
> CYA?), and 'not suitable for drinking' (you really would not drink this
> stuff, just look and smel
On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:31 PM, stevea wrote:
> Yes, taps CAN be drinking water, but not necessarily are. For example, a
> hose_bib on a residence's "backyard porch" might be designed to attach a hose
> and water plants with a sprinkler or a hand-valve sprayer, but such a tap can
> also be declar
I love reading about all the German flavors here — and I'm not a bit surprised
(as the German language loves to do this, and I love German for this!)
On Oct 8, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/10/22 22:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>> On 8 Oct 2022, at 12:43, Enno
On 8/10/22 22:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
sent from a phone
On 8 Oct 2022, at 12:43, Enno Hermann wrote:
It does not make sense to me to use different tags for the same kind of
feature, so I generally use amenity=fountain for these with appropriate subtags.
it’s not the same kind of f
I have the impression that slow running water points in Europe rapidly are
fitted with a push button fot a limited amount of water or a limited tap time.
Would that turn them into water taps?
Peter Elderson
> Op 8 okt. 2022 om 19:26 heeft michael spreng (datendelphin)
> het volgende geschrev
Am Sa., 8. Okt. 2022 um 19:26 Uhr schrieb michael spreng (datendelphin) <
m...@osm.datendelphin.net>:
> - It seems we have more specific terms in German for fountains.
>Springbrunnen, Laufbrunnen, Brunnen... it confuses that in English,
>everything is mapped to the same term (I'm not a nat
Hi
Yes, those examples from Eginhard are all fountains. I discussed this at
various times with other Swiss mappers. Reasons that some are not tagged
as fountain, from those conversations:
- The term "decorational" confuses
- The examples on the wiki page are mostly exuberant examples. We shou
Am Sa., 8. Okt. 2022 um 16:04 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky :
> > That’s why we decided some years ago to record additional detail about
> the structure in the fountain tag.
> I wish to add more sense to how these structures are described. The
> current tagging scheme has a lot of problems with overlappi
On 08/10/22 15:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
this is the result of focusing what apparently most people are interested in
(drinking water), regardless of the physical details
I think this is good and I have no intention of changing this thing in fact.
That’s why we decided some years ago to
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> On 8 Oct 2022, at 14:23, Davidoskky via Tagging
> wrote:
>
> It feels strange to me that the same exact structure might belong to three
> different primary tags according to whether the water provided is potable or
> not or if animals can use it or not.
this is the res
Apparently they are not decorative enough for some people and should
be tagged amenity=drinking_water. However, the same type of fountain
could have a sign saying the water is not potable
Thank you for the examples, this is what I was trying to address.
yes, if the water is drinkable, I would
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> On 8 Oct 2022, at 12:43, Enno Hermann wrote:
>
> It does not make sense to me to use different tags for the same kind of
> feature, so I generally use amenity=fountain for these with appropriate
> subtags.
it’s not the same kind of feature if the water is drinkable in o
sent from a phone
> On 8 Oct 2022, at 12:43, Enno Hermann wrote:
>
> One thing I keep wondering about on this topic is how to tag very simple
> fountains that are widespread in Switzerland along hiking paths
> (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adlisberg_-_Gockhausen_IMG_4215.jpg)
> o
Taps seem clearly defined to me and I don't think a combination of
amenity=fountain, tap=yes would make sense for the examples on the wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap
One thing I keep wondering about on this topic is how to tag very simple
fountains that are wides
On 7/10/22 23:37, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote:
I wish to broadly discuss the definition of fountains and similar
objects that have the objective of delivering water (drinkable or not).
Everything I wish to discuss in this thread is about man made
constructions that transport water through
I wish to broadly discuss the definition of fountains and similar
objects that have the objective of delivering water (drinkable or not).
Everything I wish to discuss in this thread is about man made
constructions that transport water through pipes, I will thus not talk
about wells and such th
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