On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Anthony wrote:
> There's still the "one way" problem, though. I think oneway=yes is
> probably correct, but the semantics of which way is which is ambiguous
> (even if you say it's based on the underlying way, is it oneway=yes in
> the direction the gate is locked,
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> What I see often is a gate that can be entered only by residents with a key
> card (and by emergency vehicles) but exited by anyone (it lifts after
> sensing a vehicle).
Yes, although there is sometimes a gate in the back with no regular
2011/10/31 Anthony :
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> IMHO the by far most often occuring situation are exit gates that can
>> be used only in case of an emergency (but then by everyone, not only
>> emergency services).
>
> How is that enforced?
http://www.google
On 10/31/2011 6:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/10/28 Anthony:
Granted, this does raise issues. Besides the fact that oneway=yes on
a barrier=gate is not well defined, there isn't, to my knowledge, a
way to distinguish "requires code or clicker which is given to
residents" from "only acc
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> 2011/10/28 Anthony :
>> Granted, this does raise issues. Besides the fact that oneway=yes on
>> a barrier=gate is not well defined, there isn't, to my knowledge, a
>> way to distinguish "requires code or clicker which is given to
>> re
2011/10/28 Anthony :
> Granted, this does raise issues. Besides the fact that oneway=yes on
> a barrier=gate is not well defined, there isn't, to my knowledge, a
> way to distinguish "requires code or clicker which is given to
> residents" from "only accessible by maintenance personnel (and
> poss
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>> On 10/26/2011 05:49 AM, Anthony wrote:
>>>
>>> The part about "once you're inside..." is, in my opinion, a red
>>> herring. Once you're inside, the assumption is that you must have had
>>
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 05:49 AM, Anthony wrote:
>>
>> The part about "once you're inside..." is, in my opinion, a red
>> herring. Once you're inside, the assumption is that you must have had
>> permission to be there in order to have gotten there.
On 10/26/2011 05:49 AM, Anthony wrote:
The part about "once you're inside..." is, in my opinion, a red
herring. Once you're inside, the assumption is that you must have had
permission to be there in order to have gotten there. This is true of
any access=private road I can think of.
There could
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:58 -0400, Anthony wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> >> access=destination
> >
> > "Private Property / Walt Disney World Resort Guest, Cast, and Business
> > Invitees Only"
> >
> >> and access=private mean?
> >
> > "Service & Authorized Veh
On 10/26/2011 9:36 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
the entrances?
Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 10/25/2011 6:03 PM, Anthony wrote:
>>
>> What are we pretending, for the sake of argument, that
>
> As I say below:
>
>> access=destination
>
> "Private Property / Walt Disney World Resort Guest, Cast, and Business
> Invitees Only"
>
>>
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
>>
>> Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
>> the entrances?
>
> Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there are no
> guest areas north of
On 10/25/2011 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
the entrances?
Yes, I have driven from C to A. There are no other signs (and there are
no guest areas north of A-B, so there would be no point in allowing
guests to enter at C but
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Anthony wrote:
> Sounds like the ways are access=private, and nodes where the gates
> meet the roadways (I assume there are gates?) are barrier=gate,
> oneway=yes.
barrier=gate, oneway=yes, access=private...and operator=* if you want
to get fancy
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Stephen Hope wrote:
> I've seen a similar case to the problem you described elsewhere,
> though. There's a complex I've been to where only vehicles with a
> key/transponder of some sort can use most of the entrances. All other
> vehicles have to go through the mai
Have you actually driven through the roads, or just verified signs at
the entrances? From only looking at the map, I would expect that cast,
resort guests, business invitees etc can enter at C, but only to go to
the car parks right by the entrance, and further down that road the
restrictions would
On 10/25/2011 6:03 PM, Anthony wrote:
What are we pretending, for the sake of argument, that
As I say below:
access=destination
"Private Property / Walt Disney World Resort Guest, Cast, and Business
Invitees Only"
and access=private mean?
"Service & Authorized Vehicles Only"
On Tue
What are we pretending, for the sake of argument, that
access=destination and access=private mean?
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=28.42073,-81.58224&z=15&t=K&marker0=28.41788%2C-81.57674&marker1=28.41250%2C-81.59031&marker2=28.42977%2C-81.576
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=28.42073,-81.58224&z=15&t=K&marker0=28.41788%2C-81.57674&marker1=28.41250%2C-81.59031&marker2=28.42977%2C-81.57694
This is the area behind the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World.
Signs going northbound at A and B say "Service & Authorized Vehicles Only".
Southbound at
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