Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. May 2018 00:49 by graemefi...@gmail.com : > So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg Saturday > mornings > >

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. May 2018 01:37 by graemefi...@gmail.com : > > On 28 May 2018 at 09:07, Paul Allen <> pla16...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> How about outdoor_vendor? >> >> However, both of the examples you give are the sort that usually don't have >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. May 2018 07:51 by josem...@gmail.com : > Three years ago I read about rules for street vendors in my city, Madrid. The > rules design as "street vendors" a mix of: > a) Newsagent kiosks and similar (ONCE kiosks). Most of them are permanent, > not dismantled at

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. May 2018 13:46 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:37 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick <> graemefi...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> >> Would you tag the entire area eg >> >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: open_air_vendor and outdoor_vendor are also problematic as my intention > > was to include also vendors that operate under roofs and I expect that in > > some places there are pernament shops that are outdoors. > I'd say that open_air

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
28. May 2018 01:07 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick <> graemefi...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> >> >> So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg >> Saturday mornings

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-28 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:37 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Would you tag the entire area eg https://www.google.com/ > maps/@-28.0641793,153.4386994,81m/data=!3m1!1e3 as outdoor_vendor > though?, or is that considered implicit in it being a marketplace? > My

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-28 Thread José G Moya Y .
I forgot to include the point of my previous message -- I think that being dismantled every night is not so important. P.D. Enviado desde un móvil (celular). Disculpe las erratas. No veo bien la pantalla... El lun., 28 de mayo de 2018 7:51, José G Moya Y. escribió: > Three

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread José G Moya Y .
Three years ago I read about rules for street vendors in my city, Madrid. The rules design as "street vendors" a mix of: a) Newsagent kiosks and similar (ONCE kiosks). Most of them are permanent, not dismantled at night. b) Churro/french fries/hot dog vans/kiosks. They operate on winter only,

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 28 May 2018 at 09:07, Paul Allen wrote: > How about outdoor_vendor? > > However, both of the examples you give are the sort that usually don't > have fixed assignments for vendors > so you couldn't map them at stall level anyway. > Fair enough on both counts, Would you

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg > Saturday mornings https://www.google.com/maps/@- > 28.0861864,153.4491747,3a,75y,247.72h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1! >

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:42 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On 27 May 2018 at 23:20, Paul Allen wrote: > >> because they're ephemeral >> > > Or are they intermittent? :-) > I'm glad somebody took the bait. :) -- Paul

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Graeme On 28 May 2018 at 05:06, Paul Allen wrote: > but I'd call them street vendors. > > -- > Paul > So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg Saturday mornings

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 27 May 2018 at 23:20, Paul Allen wrote: > because they're ephemeral > Or are they intermittent? :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Allen
It's bad form to follow up to your own mail, but... On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote: > >> 27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com: >> > > Take a look at

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > Is there anything missing? > Having had time to think about it, I don't think that removal, dismantling or even partial dismantling are essential characteristics.

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> 26. May 2018 10:56 by >> dieterdre...@gmail.com >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 26. May 2018 10:56 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > It should be now covered by > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ > street_vendor%3Dyes#Definition > I mentioned this on the discussion

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 21:19 by pla16...@gmail.com : > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> 25. May 2018 20:39 by >> craigw84+...@gmail.com >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. May 2018 10:56 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:49, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > > >> >> It gets trickier than expected as in some cases there are roofs >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. May 2018 10:57 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:52, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > > >> >> I think that street_vendor=yes would fit - they are selling

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:52, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I think that street_vendor=yes would fit - they are selling service, not a > physical > > product so it also should fit (but if it is not true then it is a good time > to complain). >

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > It gets trickier than expected as in some cases there are roofs > > over marketplace/street that are typical trading places... > yes, and again in other cases there are also walls around

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26. May 2018 00:45 by graemefi...@gmail.com : > How about "shops", or at least traders, that have nothing to do with food, or > selling a physical item? > We have a number of surf schools (learn how to ride a surfboard) that operate > out of a van & set up in the

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 22:38 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > sent from a phone > >> On 25. May 2018, at 19:59, Mateusz Konieczny <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> >> > wrote: >> >> I attempted to improve definition, and I ended with >> >> "shop

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
How about "shops", or at least traders, that have nothing to do with food, or selling a physical item? We have a number of surf schools (learn how to ride a surfboard) that operate out of a van & set up in the same spot every day. At days end, they pack everything up & go home. eg

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. May 2018, at 19:59, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I attempted to improve definition, and I ended with > > "shop that is completely or almost completely dismantled outside its opening > hours." the term “street” also suggests the shop is

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 25. May 2018 20:39 by craigw84+...@gmail.com: > > I agree but I have no good idea for a tag name. Can you propose something? > mobile_amenity=* maybe. Or mobile=yes + amenity=*. I think I prefer the latter,

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 20:39 by craigw84+...@gmail.com : > Would be good to map them in some way. They are not really "street vendors". > I agree but I have no good idea for a tag name.  Can you propose something? If there is nothing reasonable it can be left for

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-05-25 19:31, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I forgot how many different objects qualified, I now listed  some "It includes for example food trucks that are not permanently staying in one place, products sold from cart, portable table, tent, or by somebody holding products for sale."

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
25. May 2018 20:09 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> I attempted to improve definition, and I ended with >> "shop that is completely or

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:59 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I attempted to improve definition, and I ended with > > "shop that is completely or almost completely dismantled outside its > opening hours." > What I have used in the past, because it was suggested to me by

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I attempted to improve definition, and I ended with "shop that is completely or almost completely dismantled outside its opening hours." I also created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/street_vendor%3Dyes

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-23 8:17 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Good question. At least for me "entire shop structure gets regularly > removed", so > > permanent kiosk that is not a solid building would not be one, > > plaid/roof that gets removed would count as a street vendor. > I

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23. May 2018 00:32 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > > > 2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > >: > >> >> Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes >> sense to map

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/18 10:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to map them as shops. But at the same time it makes sense

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to > map them as shops. > > But at the same time it makes sense to > mark them specially, as it makes clear > that outside opening hours there may > be

[Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to map them as shops. But at the same time it makes sense to mark them specially, as it makes clearthat outside opening hours there maybe little to no evidence that one may buyanything there. I looked at taginfo and found