Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Those sort of 'internal reference numbers' are used heavily in New South Wales. They aren't easy to work out and don't help with navigation. They would need a non-rendering tag - no use a router trying to send me down 'MR380' That's

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/3 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: by way of context, New York State and some NY counties have cases where there are roads maintained by the state or county that do not have numberedsigned route designations. these roads have numbers assigned administratively (reference routes)

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Mike N.
so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref tag or not? the wiki doesn't discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is needed? I would say no - because the ref tag can generate route shields. I would be very confused if the county road

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/3/10 9:26 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: IMHO the ref-tag describes the reference, not a sign, therefore to tag them it doesn't matter if the reference numbers are displayed laterally on signs or there is another source of getting them. Still if you say that those numbers (reference

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/3/10 9:31 AM, Mike N. wrote: so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref tag or not? the wiki doesn't discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is needed? I would say no - because the ref tag can generate route shields. I

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Welty wrote: administratively, a reference route is no different from a conventional signed route number. from a practical point of view, you almost never see a reference route on a sign. what we come back to is tagging for the renderer, if we put the reference route designations

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/3/10 10:29 AM, Chris Hill wrote: Richard Welty wrote: administratively, a reference route is no different from a conventional signed route number. from a practical point of view, you almost never see a reference route on a sign. what we come back to is tagging for the renderer, if we put

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Pieren
You say numbers assigned administratively (reference routes) that do not appear on signs. which sounds like internal numbers which are never used by the public in any form. So nobody will say turn left and take the C29 for 2 kms... If this is the case, I would ask first if OSM is the right place

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Liz
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Richard Welty wrote: so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref tag or not? the wiki doesn't discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is needed? Those sort of 'internal reference numbers' are used heavily in New

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-02-03 06:19, Richard Welty wrote: ... so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref tag or not? the wiki doesn't discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is needed? I would say the question is what happens when one of these routes is

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and reference routes

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/3/10 4:33 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-02-03 06:19, Richard Welty wrote: ... so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref tag or not? the wiki doesn't discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is needed? I would say the