Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Hi Colin, Ok let's follow the analogy between a pipeline and a route. In OSM, it is surely a relation linking several ways together. Two questions : Do you mean that any covered man made water diverting and transport facility would correspond to a pipeline ? I don't know how to use the OSM accor

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Hi Francois, On 2015-10-11 13:28, François Lacombe wrote: > Hi Colin > > Le 9 oct. 2015 7:26 PM, "Colin Smale" a écrit : >> Are you just saying it is unlikely, or do you mean that it would no longer >> be called a pipeline if part of its distance is drilled through rock instead >> of be

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Hi Colin Le 9 oct. 2015 7:26 PM, "Colin Smale" a écrit : >Are you just saying it is unlikely, or do you mean that it would no longer be called a pipeline if part of its distance is drilled through rock instead of being a steel pipe? I won't call a drilled rock section a "pipeline". > "Penstock"

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Why can a drilled rock tunnel, or an aqueduct for that matter, not be part of a pipeline? Are you just saying it is unlikely, or do you mean that it would no longer be called a pipeline if part of its distance is drilled through rock instead of being a steel pipe? According to this article that

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

According to this wikipedia article : NYC Water supply https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_water_supply_system I see many terms to talk about Catskill Aqueduct which is a major part of this system : aquduct, conduit, tunnel, siphon... but pipeline is never used. Google tells nothing about

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

I see a pipeline as analogous to a route, i.e. from one place to another, made up of many contiguous segments of varying types. Many of these segments may be (steel) pipes, but they may also be drilled through rock or whatever. A penstock is a particular function of certain pipelines, for exampl

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Hi everyone, 2015-10-07 1:02 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > I'd like to think anything carrying waste water (sewer) would have a non > permeable lining.. and that lining could be called a 'pipe' and thus it is a > 'pipeline'. > > To me the 'tubes' in my house for carrying water/gas a

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:41 AM, François Lacombe wrote: > > Currently, I find something missing regarding man_made=pipeline + > substance=water because a pipe carrying water can correspond to many > things in reality. > man_made=pipeline + substance=water + *waterway=penstock* would fill the > lac

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On 6/10/2015 8:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-06 10:42 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann >: > > can you give an example for a pipeline without a pipe? Apart from the pressure tubes of hydropower plants the most common case is probably sewe

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

2015-10-06 10:42 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann : > > > > can you give an example for a pipeline without a pipe? > > Apart from the pressure tubes of hydropower plants the most common case > is probably sewer pipes. For general transport pipelines cutting them > into rock is rare due to the high cos

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Monday 05 October 2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > probably not very practical to > > differentiate between 'pipelines with a pipe' and pipelines without > > a pipe' underground. > > can you give an example for a pipeline without a pipe? Apart from the pressure tubes of hydropower plant

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

sent from a phone > Am 05.10.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Christoph Hormann : > > probably not very practical to > differentiate between 'pipelines with a pipe' and pipelines without a > pipe' underground. can you give an example for a pipeline without a pipe?

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Christoph, Martin, I see things as follow : when a river is diverted to feed a hydroelectric power plant, the main of the flow goes through tunnels, shafts, valves and penstocks. Only a few of original water is still flowing the natural path for economical reasons. As for obtaining a global and ro

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

2015-10-05 15:14 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt : > I have tagged many of these water tubes here in the Po valley, mostly in > connection with pumping_station. Tagging: man_made=pipeline and type=drain > (today I would map them with "substance" instead of "type") Hi Volker, The problem I see here is th

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Monday 05 October 2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I m not sure whether you could call a rock-cut tube a "pipe". > Typically a pipeline would suggest someone installing pipes, not > drilling rock. (I might be wrong here, as English is not my mother > tongue and I'm not an expert in civil eng

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

sent from a phone > Am 05.10.2015 um 15:19 schrieb Christoph Hormann : > > There is no practical difference > if a pressure tube is directly cut into rock or if there is a > concrete/metal lining/tubing. So IMO man_made=pipeline is appropriate > for all of these I m not sure whether you c

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

sent from a phone > Am 05.10.2015 um 14:43 schrieb François Lacombe : > > Let's say it's an underground river if anyone is more at ease with it if it's a river it should get the waterway=river tag, or stream if you can "jump over it" (not sure what that definition means on underground rivers

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Monday 05 October 2015, François Lacombe wrote: > > What I propose : (man_made=pipeline + substance=water) + > waterway=penstock or waterway=penstock + tunnel=yes or... > > A water carrying pipeline isn't always a penstock. > A penstock isn't always a pipeline : sometimes shielded tunnels are >

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

I have tagged many of these water tubes here in the Po valley, mostly in connection with pumping_station. Tagging: man_made=pipeline and type=drain (today I would map them with "substance" instead of "type") If you want to express the fact the pipeline is a penstock, I would suggest pipeline:type=

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

2015-10-05 14:10 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann : > On Monday 05 October 2015, François Lacombe wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> How would you feel about considering waterway=penstock beside of >> waterway=canal, waterway=drain to complete pipeline tagging scheme ? >> > > Not such a good idea - that would be c

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Monday 05 October 2015, François Lacombe wrote: > Hi all, > > How would you feel about considering waterway=penstock beside of > waterway=canal, waterway=drain to complete pipeline tagging scheme ? > Not such a good idea - that would be correctly tagged as man_made=pipeline. A short tubed sec

[Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

Hi all, How would you feel about considering waterway=penstock beside of waterway=canal, waterway=drain to complete pipeline tagging scheme ? Penstocks pipes are mostly used in hydroelectric power plants to provide high pressure water to turbines. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/