Hi,
kirg...@riseup.net (2020-09-13):
> what software is the PDF reader in Tails? Is it part of bookletimposer
> or evince document reader that comes in Ubuntu?
The default PDF viewer is the one included in GNOME: Evince.
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Zen Fu and I will start upgrading our Jenkins isotesters to Debian
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Hi,
I've filed an issue about this because I had more info to share on
this topic, and GitLab felt like a better place to do so than
a mailing list thread:
https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/sysadmin/-/issues/17744
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here's an excerpt from GitLab 13.3 release notes:
WIP merge requests renamed Draft merge requests
WIP (work in progress) status for merge requests provide a clear
signal to reviewers that the merge request in question is not yet
ready to be merged.
In order to use a more
Hi,
I've extracted a summary of this conversation and turned it into
a GitLab issue:
https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/17886
I plan to start working on it soon and we'll see how much practice
agrees with the theoretical proposal I made :)
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Hi,
emma peel (2020-08-15):
> I like the gitlab interface, and I think I am starting to feel comfortable on
> it.
> But I must say that I find uncomfortable the lose of the privileges
> I have since moving from Redmine.
Thank you so much for sharing, both the good and the bad!
> I have
Hi,
2 things:
- Running Buster? Please update your APT configuration
- Running Stretch? Please upgrade to Buster or tell me how long you need
Running Buster? Please update your APT configuration
So far, in order to run our test suite on
Hi,
sajolida (2020-06-16):
> intrigeri:
>> Sandro Knauß (2020-05-24):
>>> anonym wrote:
>>>> Let me first express the change we're seeking: when leaving a comment on a
>>>> ticket, consider it your responsibility that the right person(s) will read
&
Hi,
here's my summary, after spending some time to understand kibi's
report and what the underlying problem was:
- Copying artifacts between Jenkins and any of its builder nodes
seems to be capped at 10 MiB/s. That feels pretty low given the
sort of hardware we're running our CI on.
-
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-07-28):
>> | [2020-05-05 23:29:07] kibi: not an issue when running the VM separately
>> (on the same machine), not an issue when running the test suite on stretch
>> (different machine), not an issue on baremetal.
>> | [2020-05-05 23:29:22] kibi: I think a bug or
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-07-29):
> Maybe we should make sure downloading over bittorrent finishes, and
> not only starts?
This would make the manual testing session start a bit later (with "a
bit" being more or less long depending on the RM's Internet
connection). What about adding the full
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-07-28):
>> After sending this message, I'm going to send you links to the 143
>> issues you're currently subscribed to, generated by the attached script.
>
> Then I'm not sure I understand what “being currently subscribed to” means.
I was confused and unclear. I've sent
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-07-27):
> Having being responsible for a number of releases lately, I've been
> automatically “subscribed” to any tickets I ever touched, even if only
> to push back the target version (Redmine) / milestone (GitLab) to the
> next release.
It sounds like a bug in the
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-07-28):
> I had noticed this during earlier release preps, but didn't get to the
> bottom of it: with a buster system used exclusively for Tails purposes
> (so no fancy extra packages installed), I cannot get the test suite to
> get Tor bootstrapped:
That sounds
Hi,
kirg...@riseup.net (2020-07-19):
> Are the application-level privacy changes incorporated into the
> Thunderbird in Tails from the now deprecated extension TorBirdy planned
> to go upstream into the regular Thunderbird?
The changes that required patching Thunderbird have already
been
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-07-10):
> The above happened but we encountered a major problem that did not
> affect the slightly simpler test environment we had previously tested
> the migration on :(
>
> I'm hopeful we'll manage to fix this today:
>
>> - July 10, noon UTC: fix
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-07-03):
> Zen Fu and I have planned to upgrade our Jenkins and most of its
> plugins next week.
>
> Current plan is:
>
> - July 9, 06:00 UTC: put Jenkins in shutdown mode, i.e. no new builds
>are started
>
> - July 9, noon UTC: deploy the upgra
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-06-03):
> Cyril Brulebois (2020-06-01):
>> I'll share some more, spotted during the last few days and while
>> finalizing the contents of 4.7 thanks to anonym's help:
>>
>> * It would be nice if we could close tickets from a commit message,
>&
Hi,
Zen Fu and I have planned to upgrade our Jenkins and most of its
plugins next week.
Current plan is:
- July 9, 06:00 UTC: put Jenkins in shutdown mode, i.e. no new builds
are started
- July 9, noon UTC: deploy the upgrade, fix immediately visible
problems, disable shutdown mode
-
Hi,
sajolida (2020-05-13):
> anonym:
>> 1. Figure out who you want to read the comment! A good resource for this is:
>>
>>https://tails.boum.org/contribute/#mentors
>
> Note that this list is unmaintained and outdated and we have plans
> to get rid of it:
>
>
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-05-29):
> Where to ask questions and report problems
> ==
>
> There are most certainly some rough edges, confusion, and bugs caused
> by this migration, so:
>
> - If you have questions or trouble with the n
the issues being closed.
Example:
commit 12fdeb9995503b0263134f8284f8aeebc284b7b0
Merge: bc4dcec41b 015ef0767f
Author: intrigeri
Date: Sat May 30 06:02:49 2020 +
Merge branch 'feature/17133-update-signing-key' into 'master'
Bump our
Hi,
sajolida (2020-05-29):
> intrigeri:
>> - Our translation platform is not integrated with GitLab yet.
>
> What are the practical implications of this?
>
> Strings are not automatically updated in Weblate and translations in
> Weblate are not automatically applied to
rs so this sort of discussions may make it less
welcoming a place for those who are interested in non-technical
matters but not so much in technical details")
Cyril Brulebois (2020-05-29):
> intrigeri (2020-05-29):
>> Known issues
>>
>>
>> - Updates to re
Hi,
breschnew (2020-05-27):
> Please integrate in Preferences an option, were a user can switch
> graphics effects on or off
> (i.e.: Shadow pointer, shadow under window, see windows while moving
> etc.)
>
> reason is, that these effects use a tremendous amount of cpu power on
> laptops.
I
ity issues*,
please instead email .
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geb (2020-05-09):
> emma peel:
>> I followed this instructions, but then I got a bit stuck because the system
>> asked me for a confirmation email and didnt show me where to ask it, after
>> following those steps.
>> Finally I saw the 'resent confirmation email' link (this was after I
>>
Hi,
Tom (2020-05-09):
> Hello, I just wanted to point out something to you people. Sourcehut
> has finally released and their entire platform is much higher quality
> than gitlab's. more portable too. It doesn't require javascript and it
> integrates with a mailing list and has built in CI
Hi,
Clément Hermann (2020-05-07):
> On 07/05/2020 11:24, intrigeri wrote:
>>> I understand this would fix the problem for issues you were already
>>> watching on Redmine: on every issue you were watching, as part of the
>>> migration process, we add a :star: re
Hi,
I mistyped the tails-dev@ email address when I sent this on April 25,
so fully quoting.
Apart of that, below there's a gentle "ping" for nodens, and nothing more.
intrigeri (2020-04-25):
> [moving back the discussion to tails-dev@, and this time, setting
> Reply-To via
Hi,
anonym (2020-04-15):
> See e.g. https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/17367
>
> The attachment links in the Attachment section work fine. However, the links
> in the comments where they were added have bad URLs:
>
>
>
Hi,
anonym (2020-04-24):
> Also, I wonder if this force-push can have some other consequences
> on Jenkins (or other infra). It seems to me that restoring an old
> state should do nothing vs our garbage-collection mechanism, for
> instance, but I might overlook or not be aware of some
> other
Redmine.
Known limitations that come with GitLab
===
- There's no way to view an non-image attachment without downloading it first.
- The web UI may suggest to "upgrade" to a non-Free Software version of GitLab.
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>> Whether we can actually do the migration at that time depends on
>> a number of factors, including some that we have no control over.
>
> We have not reached the point of no return yet and there's still
> a possibility we abort the migration.
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-03-22):
> the team working on migrating our issues and Git repositories to
> GitLab will have a (remote) sprint on April 8-10.
>
> The tentative plan is to perform the migration during those days.
>
> During those days, expect disruption and long periods o
hi,
sajolida (2020-03-24):
> intrigeri:
>>> D. sajolida uses it when writing release notes but it's insufficient
>>>and he could probably do as good with Redmine only, with some
>>>caveats (might be a bit slower, might need more clarification from
>
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-03-22):
> You might have meant to link to the devel version instead
That was indeed my intent (otherwise I would have linked to the
website)… and I messed it up. Thank you for catching this mistake!
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intrigeri (2020-03-22):
> Among the people who told us they use the changelog in some way or
> another, it seems to me we can distinguish 4 main use cases:
To reason about this problem I needed to first grasp the big picture
of the information flow
Hi,
anonym (2019-12-13):
> As release managers, one of the things we produce is the changelog
> (i.e. debian/changelog; we are *not* talking about the release
> notes). We have the following questions for you, potential users of
> this file:
>
> - Do you read the changelog at all?
> - If so,
Hi,
(context: broken link to the changelog in the release announcement
email sent to the amnesia-news@ mailing list)
intrigeri (2019-12-26):
> As a potential cheap workaround, I've updated all our !tails_git*
> ikiwiki shortcuts so they use our current canonical Git rep
Hi,
today I've merged anonym's work on replacing Sikuli usage in our
automated test suite (#15460).
For now, this implies that in order to run locally the test suite from
devel, or from a branch based on devel, you need to adjust your setup:
Hi,
the team working on migrating our issues and Git repositories to
GitLab will have a (remote) sprint on April 8-10.
The tentative plan is to perform the migration during those days.
During those days, expect disruption and long periods of
unavailability of the parts of our infrastructure
Hi,
intrigeri (2020-03-20):
> I have 2 relevant things:
> - #6560 and friends
Merged!
> - #15460 (drop Sikuli, yeah!)
Merged, and then:
>anonym plans to do a few last-minute small fixes on Monday.
>It's mostly about doc fixes, that IMO could be merged after the
>
Hi,
Cyril Brulebois (2020-03-20):
> Here's the tentative timeline:
> - freeze to happen on 2020-03-22 at the latest; developers, if you have
>stuff that remains to be merged by then, you're welcome to tell us
>(on say tails-dev@ and tails-rm@) so that we discuss whether to wait
>a
Hi,
sajolida (2020-02-25):
> Surprisingly, it's not even clear to me what the implications of the
> Language and Region settings can be on privacy. So I'm moving the
> discussion to tails-dev@boum.org in order to ask our fellow developers.
First, most, if not all, exploited applications have
Hi,
xin (2020-02-12):
> Hello, please review and merge.
>
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: french
> Last Commit: 8ab39e108fdb6376490a655ec8de6f6086fee78c
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Pavol Rusnak (2020-02-06):
> As discussed in https://redmine.tails.boum.org/code/issues/17461 I am
> sending a patch to add "trezor" package to package list.
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Hi,
the new "cachewebsite" Tails build option enables caching of the
built website.
The cache is keyed on the input parameters that primarily determine
the output of the website build, as a trade-off between build
performance and build result correctness.
Once we're confident enough, we can
FYI:
Start of forwarded message
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 22:33:32 +
From: Matthew Finkel
To: tbb-...@lists.torproject.org
Subject: [tbb-dev] Tor Browser Moving to Release Train
Hi everyone,
Following the Mozilla All-Hands last week, we've made the
Cody Brownstein (2020-01-24):
> Here's a patch to fix those broken links.
Good catch, thanks!
I'm applying this; and while I was at it, I've fixed a related broken
URL in 1cc24519ae270b91f8730afd298d57ac75a4ac6e.
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our help desk and provide details regarding "I can’t manage to start
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ossibly you —
could teach python3-html2text to *not* split links :)
Note that this part of our infrastructure is currently running
Debian Stretch. It might be that newer versions of rss2email,
python3-html2text, or their dependencies, improve things in
answer to questions like "in which
exact release did we introduce change X?" (the alternative being git
log + git tag --contains $COMMIT).
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his front, I did 9b175467da64dc97394edd3ae37a9a6f20a4e12e.
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this topic currently is:
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intrigeri:
>> Proposal: remove the "Fix committed" status. Instead, use "Resolved".
Implemented.
I've updated all the documentation I could find that referred to "Fix
committed":
https://salsa.debian.org/tails-team/tails/commit/9ffaa50a39d92d0d760
Hi,
intrigeri:
> Here's one last call for comments, ca. 1 month after I started this thread.
FTR, segfault checked and found no bug. Thanks everyone who participated!
I'm now going to update our calendar & Redmine accordingly,
then I'll bootstrap the RM'ing scheduling process.
If at we
Hi,
intrigeri:
> intrigeri:
>> it would be great if we could decide soon when our next few major
>> releases will happen. […]
>> Here's an initial proposal, optimized towards minimizing the number of
>> major releases we have to do, while meeting our sponsor
Hi,
intrigeri (2.5 weeks ago):
> Proposal: remove the "Fix committed" status. Instead, use "Resolved".
So far:
- This proposal was enthusiastically supported by 1 (anonym) out of
2 people, other than me, who participated in this discussion.
- sajolida raised a
he scripts
> for security (and maybe nothing else for now).
Sounds good to me!
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sajolida:
> intrigeri:
>> - 2020-01-07: Release 4.2 (bugfix release, with one exception)
>>
>>Tails Upgrader MUST support Endless automatic upgrades (#15281); if
>>it's not ready in time, instead ship that in a beta by the end of
>>January
works. If you do this, please report back! :)
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intrigeri:
> it would be great if we could decide soon when our next few major
> releases will happen. […]
> Here's an initial proposal, optimized towards minimizing the number of
> major releases we have to do, while meeting our sponsor deadlines.
> My goal here is that w
Hi,
intrigeri:
> So I propose that we drop the "QA Check" field and instead, introduce
> a "Needs Validation" status.
This proposal from March 24 was implemented on June 2.
Any feedback about how this change impacted your work so f
where, so I gave up.
sajolida?
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team-mates.
> Also many times when I go to a file in a repo I get a forbidden
> error to see the code.
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the previous evening (Paris/Berlin).
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… and it worked out of the box. So it looks like what you need will
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er was broken in a Tails
release, so this may lead to users running a dangerously obsolete
Tails without noticing.
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So in the vast majority of cases, starting next Wednesday, you'll want
to fork your topic branch off the stable branch.
Until then, fork the testing branch instead.
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Browser developers
aware of this? They'll be the ones who can fix this problem, rather
than Tails.
> please fix it ASAP
I'm afraid that Firefox developers will need some more information
than "there's a critical vulnerability in the JS engine"
xin:
> Hello, it's for the testing branch.
> Please review and merge.
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: unfuzzy
> Last Commit: e99cee2bffa81b94332f902dd5e564850d940bea
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and thus deliver something a little bit late.
- I did not reason about the timing of the Tails Installer changes
that the migration to GRUB will require. Worst case, we'll have to
make another exception and ship them in a bugfix release.
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Hi,
Tails 4.0~rc1 is out so the next steps are:
intrigeri:
> * 2019-10-21: build and upload 4.0
> * 2019-10-22: test and release 4.0
> Dear testers, please let me know privately if you're available for
> testing on […] October 22. Thanks in advance!
Ping about this?
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-
6 weeks later (Dec 3), will include 5.3: most likely, at some point
during the Tails 4.1 development cycle, the only way to get recent
security fixes against Linux 5.x, using a Debian kernel, will be to
upgrade to 5.3, simply because there won't be a 5.2 with these fixes
anywhere in Debian :)
/
still mentions "Tails live boot option"
-
https://www.ubuntushop.be/index.php/en/opensource-notebooks/kodachi-notebooks.html
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intrigeri:
> intrigeri:
>> on September 19-22, the sysadmin team will be upgrading our Jenkins
>> (#10068). Don't count on CI during these days. We'll let you know once
>> things are supposed to be back into working shape.
The upgrade went well in our development envir
xin:
> Hello, it's for the devel branch.
> Please review and merge.
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: devel
> Last Commit: 20b58d84e8a395825539ff9c2299a7ce9a5bfff4
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Hi Sebastian,
Sebastian Nielsen via Tails-dev:
> SPF records for tails dev return this error:
Thanks for pointing it out. I've forwarded this to our sysadmins,
who will take a look and relay it to the folks who host DNS
for boum.org.
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> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: fix_broken_links
> Last Commit: 8769d6e6849eccf2101dae93c327a7d836219ce8
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> Hello, please review and merge.
> Repo: https://git-tails.immerda.ch/xin/tails/
> Branch: broken_link
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intrigeri:
> on September 19-22, the sysadmin team will be upgrading our Jenkins
> (#10068). Don't count on CI during these days. We'll let you know once
> things are supposed to be back into working shape.
> Thanks in advance for your patience :)
Reminder about the above: it
if you're available for
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on September 19-22, the sysadmin team will be upgrading our Jenkins
(#10068). Don't count on CI during these days. We'll let you know once
things are supposed to be back into working shape.
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our Foundations Team :)
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intrigeri:
> Jurre:
>> Some of us have been working on creating a blueprint discussing certains
>> questions related to randomness in Tails.
> FTR it looks like:
> - The blueprint needs an update to take #15292 into account.
> - The current status on #11897 is &
Hi s7r,
intrigeri:
> s7r wrote:
>>> Option B: find co-maintainers for the Debian package
>>>
>>>
>>> We have the skills at Tails to become co-maintainers but if there's
>>> a way to find some oth
issues so we can
fix them before we release 4.0 final. It worked very well for 3.0.
So: please consider upgrading the Tails systems you use daily to
4.0~beta1! :)
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, please ask :)
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Hi,
intrigeri:
> So I thought we could try this:
> 1. Create a working group of a few people who are interested in this
>topic and want to be involved in every step of this process.
>→ If you want in, please let me know by the end of July.
I would love if more folks could
Hi,
intrigeri:
> We'll let you know when we believe things are back to a stable,
> working state.
We're done and things should be now working as well as they used to.
If there's any regression, please file a ticket in Redmine, assigned
to "Sysadmins". Thanks in advance!
Cheer
Hi,
zen and I will attempt to upgrade our Puppet "master" (sic) to Debian
Buster today. This will likely cause some disruption on our
infrastructure now and then. We'll let you know when we believe things
are back to a stable, working state.
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and call for comments.
5. Iterate on #3 and #4 as needed.
6. Eventually reach consensus on a definition.
It's fine if we did not manage to reach consensus on every single
feature / application: we'll document as such the ones that are
left to
Hi,
Insurgo:
> On 7/3/19 4:57 AM, intrigeri wrote:
>> That's probably doable. For avoidance of doubt, is this:
>>
>> mmc_core
>> mmc_block
>> sdhci
>> sdhci_pci
> Exactly.
Thank you. For those following at home, Insurgo turned this into
w/code/
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/build/
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