Re: [GTALUG] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread James Knott via talk
On 09/17/2018 04:48 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > - Turn off the modem's WiFi and put it in bridge mode. You may have > to repeat this after a power failure or a (generally unannounced) > firmware update. I've had my Rogers modem in bridge mode for several years and a few

[GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] AGM Call for Candidates

2018-09-17 Thread hi--- via talk
# AGM Call for Candidates October, 9th is GTALUG's Annual General Meeting We are making the Call for Candidates for the Board. There will be two seats opening, for 2 year terms (2018-2020). Please consider running for the board, and keep in mind the following. The formal qualifications that

Re: [GTALUG] Online Course for Lex/Yacc?

2018-09-17 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 15:36 William Park via talk, wrote: > > Language is C; environment is embedded board of consumer/business > printers > So is this embedded as in "limited memory" and printers like "horrid binary protocols"? This might not fit with that kind of parser. Stewart > --- Talk

Re: [GTALUG] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: David Collier-Brown via talk | To: UU , GTALUG Talk I don't think that it is great to post a message once to two public mailing lists. It can lead to odd entanglements. It's fine to separately post the same message to two lists. I'm violating this suggestion with this message. | I

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Hill via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:52 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > This has low reliability, so take it with a large grain of salt, but > the only time I met Lennart Poettering (before systemd) he did seem > arrogant. Depends on the context, I guess. I've been to a number of Lennart's talks,

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:52 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > | From: Dhaval Giani via talk > > | https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ > > | > https://www.jonobacon.com/2018/09/16/linus-his-apology-and-why-we-should-support-him/ > > Thanks. I hadn't noticed this. A

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Dave Doyle via talk
Just as a quick aside: On a personal level, as a developer, I have chosen not to engage in certain communities and chosen not to use certain technologies because of the toxicity of the community. My mental well being is more important to me than engaging in certain groups. I'd be lying if I

Re: [GTALUG] Online Course for Lex/Yacc?

2018-09-17 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 09/17/2018 03:35 PM, William Park via talk wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:54:29AM -0400, Matthew Gordon via talk wrote: I'd also recommend against Yacc. As others have said, it's a great tool and very powerful but a recursive descent parser will do the job 99% of the time and will be much

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Dhaval Giani via talk | https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ | https://www.jonobacon.com/2018/09/16/linus-his-apology-and-why-we-should-support-him/ Thanks. I hadn't noticed this. A possibly big story. | On a more personal note, I have seen "hostile" behavior on many mailing | lists,

Re: [GTALUG] Online Course for Lex/Yacc?

2018-09-17 Thread William Park via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 08:54:29AM -0400, Matthew Gordon via talk wrote: > I'd also recommend against Yacc. As others have said, it's a great tool and > very powerful but a recursive descent parser will do the job 99% of the > time and will be much easier. Writing a good unambiguous grammar for

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
> > >>> Also on a personal note, you contacted me offlist to chastize me about >>> some trivial comment I made about pulseaudio and at least one other person >>> has named you pubically on this list for the same type of conduct. >>> >>> >> I apologize for that. >> > > Apology accepted and my own

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 11:37, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:11 AM Russell Reiter wrote: >> The Poettering hit man story is four years old. It didn't stop him from his >> own rant, they are after all just words. >> > They are just words for you. But you ignore a phone

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 11:37 AM Dhaval Giani wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:11 AM Russell Reiter > wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:52 PM Dhaval Giani via talk >> wrote: >> >>> https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ >>> >>> ... >>> >>> To tie this all back to the actual 4.19-rc4 release

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:11 AM Russell Reiter wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:52 PM Dhaval Giani via talk > wrote: > >> https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ >> >> ... >> >> To tie this all back to the actual 4.19-rc4 release (no, really, this >>> _is_ related!) I actually think that 4.19 is

Re: [GTALUG] Boot setup issues

2018-09-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 03:32:11PM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > OK - - - good to know. For many years it was /boot, / (or /root), > /usr, /var, /tmp, > swap, /usr/local and /home. I've had enough issues because / was too small, > ditto for /usr. > So on a new system I can drop /boot and only add

Re: [GTALUG] Attacks on MAC address lists (was: suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi)

2018-09-17 Thread Jamon Camisso via talk
On 16/09/18 17:51, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > I've set up MAC address lists, after a surprising number of reboots to > unwedge the router  (did I even mention I hate flaky PC-style software?). > > How can my hacker avoid them? Wait until my wife's Mac drops off-line > and steal her

Re: [GTALUG] [u-u] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread Don Tai via talk
I'm on Bell, who gave me a Home hub 3000. It has a log, so you can see errors. You can even download the log, but the info is not very useful. >From the Bell router I also use RJ45 to my personal router. On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 10:22, Bill Duncan via talk wrote: > Hey Dave, > I agree with Bruce

Re: [GTALUG] [u-u] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread Bill Duncan via talk
Hey Dave, I agree with Bruce on his first 2 points, not sure about LoRa.. What I do is turn the bell wifi off, link it to my own router over the wire. It'll take a few years for manufacturers and device makers, but WPA3 has been released. Doesn't help you now, but..

Re: [GTALUG] Online Course for Lex/Yacc?

2018-09-17 Thread Matthew Gordon via talk
I'd also recommend against Yacc. As others have said, it's a great tool and very powerful but a recursive descent parser will do the job 99% of the time and will be much easier. Writing a good unambiguous grammar for Yacc can be tricky and is much more difficult to debug than a recursive descent

Re: [GTALUG] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 09/17/2018 09:07 AM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:50:14 -0400 James Knott via talk wrote: On 09/16/2018 01:45 PM, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: What's a good approach? I have considered Many people use separate routers, as they're not happy with the Rogers

Re: [GTALUG] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:50:14 -0400 James Knott via talk wrote: > On 09/16/2018 01:45 PM, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > > > > What's a good approach? I have considered > > > > Many people use separate routers, as they're not happy with the Rogers > hardware.  I run pfSense on a refurb

Re: [GTALUG] [u-u] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread Jamon Camisso via talk
On 17/09/18 08:37, James Knott via talk wrote: > On 09/16/2018 09:47 PM, UU via talk wrote: >> 2. change SSID & don't broadcast it >> > > That's generally not effective.  It provides a false sense of security. Likewise MAC address white listing. It is easy enough to use ip link set dev

Re: [GTALUG] [u-u] Suggestions for stopping occasional spurious use of commercial wi-fi

2018-09-17 Thread James Knott via talk
On 09/16/2018 09:47 PM, UU via talk wrote: > 2. change SSID & don't broadcast it > That's generally not effective.  It provides a false sense of security. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Hill via talk
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > This list is an example of attacks on systemd. While Lennart doesn't read > this list personally, I do know of the impact systemd criticism has had on > him. He has shared recordings of death threats because of systemd. I think, >

Re: [GTALUG] Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note

2018-09-17 Thread Russell Reiter via talk
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 11:52 PM Dhaval Giani via talk wrote: > https://lwn.net/Articles/764901/ > > ... > > To tie this all back to the actual 4.19-rc4 release (no, really, this >> _is_ related!) I actually think that 4.19 is looking fairly good, >> things have gotten to the "calm" period of the