Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread ac via talk
If you want to relay email and operate a working email server, you need to start with ipv4 reputation. If you host in the middle of a criminal hotspot and at a socalled "bullet proof" host (a host that does not care about abuse complaints and has a bad reputation) Do not expect to be able to

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Jason Shaw via talk
I gave up on trying to keep a local mail server off of spamhaus and similar lists and ended up getting an account at authsmtp.com to relay outbound mail through so that they can deal with the deliverability side of it. Sending 4000 messages a month is probably cheaper than the amount of time

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Jamon Camisso via talk
On 21/02/2019 17:53, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 15:53 Marc Lijour, > wrote: > > +1 > > turns out that OVH is cheap and not-for-profit organizations are > looking for cheap (same as spammers I guess), ... > > We're not

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Don Tai via talk
You're on a shared host with any number of other web sites and owners. When one goes rogue and launches bots at the world the IP is logged and is used to ban all the sites on that IP, which might include your own. Bots reappear on a regular basis, using the same IP, so bans, in general, are for

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 15:53 Marc Lijour, wrote: > +1 > > turns out that OVH is cheap and not-for-profit organizations are looking > for cheap (same as spammers I guess), ... > We're not looking for cheap at all. A site hosted by WPEngine isn't cheap. It's the arbitrariness of spam blocking: we

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Don Tai via talk
I forgot Planet Hoster in Montreal On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 15:49, Marc Lijour wrote: > fair enough -I can understand that perspective > > What is my best bet? AWS? Azure? > On 2019-02-21 3:41 p.m., Don Tai via talk wrote: > > OVH is a well known den of spam, scraper and malicious bots. This is

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
+1 turns out that OVH is cheap and not-for-profit organizations are looking for cheap (same as spammers I guess), we're caught in the same bag On 2019-02-21 3:50 p.m., Stewart Russell via talk wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 15:42 Don Tai via talk, > wrote: ... You

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 15:42 Don Tai via talk, wrote: > ... You need to move to another host provider. > This is not always an option. The not-for-profit I work for has a web site run from WP Engine. It can send e-mail for updates, subscriptions, etc. Just one of the wp.com hosts that the mail

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
fair enough -I can understand that perspective What is my best bet? AWS? Azure? On 2019-02-21 3:41 p.m., Don Tai via talk wrote: OVH is a well known den of spam, scraper and malicious bots. This is your problem. I am sure Spamhaus has given up on the number of bots they need to block and

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
On 2019-02-21 3:03 p.m., Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: OVH allows you to set a reverse IP mapping if you are renting a full server using the website account/server management tools. Yes it does (under IP in the cloud management tab of the web console), but this is what I got (thrown

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Don Tai via talk
OVH is a well known den of spam, scraper and malicious bots. This is your problem. I am sure Spamhaus has given up on the number of bots they need to block and banned the whole IP range. I know I have. You need to move to another host provider. OVH allows the rampant running of bots, so this is

Re: [GTALUG] IP mystery

2019-02-21 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 15:06, Darryl Moore via talk wrote: > > Thanks for that. I see it there. WTF? Any idea why I don't see it with > ifconfig? Heh. Because ifconfig is really old, and apparently no longer maintained. http://inai.de/2008/02/19 Mind you, I see that after the 15-ish years of

Re: [GTALUG] IP mystery

2019-02-21 Thread Darryl Moore via talk
Thanks for that. I see it there. WTF? Any idea why I don't see it with ifconfig? On 2019-02-21 03:01 PM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: try running "ip addr" There are some aliases that will not be reported back by ifconfig. On 2/21/19 2:55 PM, Darryl Moore via talk wrote: Hello LUGgers.

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2019-02-21 2:49 p.m., Alex Volkov via talk wrote: You can't set reverse DNS records yourself, so you will need to contact your service provider and ask them to change the record for IP 54.39.185.225 from ip-54-39-185.eu to your mail server dns name. [snip] On 2019-02-21 2:43 p.m., Marc

Re: [GTALUG] IP mystery

2019-02-21 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
try running "ip addr" There are some aliases that will not be reported back by ifconfig. On 2/21/19 2:55 PM, Darryl Moore via talk wrote: Hello LUGgers. Here is an interesting mystery for anyone interesting. I'd love if anyone could explain it. The following is cut and paste directly from

[GTALUG] IP mystery

2019-02-21 Thread Darryl Moore via talk
Hello LUGgers. Here is an interesting mystery for anyone interesting. I'd love if anyone could explain it. The following is cut and paste directly from my bash session and not edited in anyway. What the $*#$^ is going on here? I have reset all the routers between these two machines in case

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
I think this might be it. You can't set reverse DNS records yourself, so you will need to contact your service provider and ask them to change the record for IP 54.39.185.225 from ip-54-39-185.eu to your mail server dns name. Alex. On 2019-02-21 2:43 p.m., Marc Lijour wrote: I thought I

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
I thought I had, and I do. OVH is allocating my PTR in a group of 8 addresses (*ip-54-39-185.eu.*). May be that's where the problem lies? I sent a ticket to OVH. $ dig -x 54.39.185.225 ; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-3ubuntu5-Ubuntu <<>> -x 54.39.185.225 ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;;

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
I have 8.2/10 pretty good considering that I got a -2 from Pyzor for my blank email On 2019-02-21 2:09 p.m., Val Kulkov via talk wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 14:03, Val Kulkov > wrote: Also, it seems to me that even permanent static IP addresses are not

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 14:17, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I remember there's an open-source mail config/blacklist checking website > tool, but I don't remember its name. > https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx perhaps? --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Do you have reverse DNS records set up -- this is pretty much a requirement for running any mail server these days. This mailing list kept getting blocked by Spamhaus when we used IPv6 address to send out mail. I have no idea what was wrong with that, but the minute I turned off IPv6

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
I'm hosting at OVH, running a small VM with SSD. The IP is fixed. A range of IP owned by the cloud provider might explain things, except that I'm not responsible (nor have any control) of bad neighbours. On 2019-02-21 2:03 p.m., Val Kulkov via talk wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 13:34, Marc

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 14:03, Val Kulkov wrote: > Also, it seems to me that even permanent static IP addresses are not made > the same. I get a feeling that some spam databases do not "like" certain > ranges of IP addresses. Although I have no direct evidence of it, I suspect > that these spam

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Val Kulkov via talk
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 13:34, Marc Lijour via talk wrote: > Does anyone has insights about dealing with Spamhaus? > > I'm getting increasingly frustrated by being listed without explanation. > I run a very low bandwidth mail server and a website for my business. I > am running postfix with SPF,

Re: [GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Tim Tisdall via talk
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 13:34, Marc Lijour via talk wrote: > > Does anyone has insights about dealing with Spamhaus? Is it being run on shared hosting? I had an issue with a similar service because the server shared an IP address with another site that was hacked and was spamming people. ---

[GTALUG] Spamhaus block

2019-02-21 Thread Marc Lijour via talk
Does anyone has insights about dealing with Spamhaus? I'm getting increasingly frustrated by being listed without explanation. I run a very low bandwidth mail server and a website for my business. I am running postfix with SPF, DKIM, and DMARC. I'd like to know what I am missing. Spamhaus