Re: [GTALUG] RHEL Free Tier vs CentOS Stream vs Alma Linux vs Rocky Linux

2023-01-31 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 31/01/2023 16.26, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: - hurts Red Hat, but that isn't immoral Red Hat is IBM, so I guess they're kind of undead and far beyond hurt. I'm sure my late father would have been far less careful what he said about Big Blue, since he'd worked for ICT/ICL while

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 31/01/2023 10.10, Dhaval Giani wrote: https://ubuntu.com/pricing/pro Ah, I didn't see that link, only the "Contact us ..." bit on the main page --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

[GTALUG] RHEL Free Tier vs CentOS Stream vs Alma Linux vs Rocky Linux

2023-01-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
They are all kind of the same. Competition is great. They are all, to some extent, parasites living off RHEL. Is that too many parasites? Too many in what sense?: - hurts Red Hat, but that isn't immoral - a free version allows the system to go more places. This should actually help Red Hat.

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Kevin Cozens via talk | I saw that reference to "infra-only". What does that mean? Look at "WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE" down a little bit on the pricing page. --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | | It's become interesting to follow what appears to be a re-invention of the | model taking place as CIQ seeks to be for Rocky Linux | what Canonical was for Ubuntu (hopefully, better!). There are, to be sure, | significant differences between

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
On 2023-01-31 15:45, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: Unless you have requirements beyond my idea of normal, you qualify for the free tier of Ubuntu Pro (infra-only) Desktop. I saw that reference to "infra-only". What does that mean? -- Cheers! Kevin. https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens |

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: William Park via talk | When I click "Get Ubuntu Pro now" button, I see $500/year at the bottom, which | is a bit too much for Linux. At least, Apple owns the hardware and software. | But, with Linux, you have to get the hardware yourself, and install the | software yourself. If you

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread William Park via talk
When I click "Get Ubuntu Pro now" button, I see $500/year at the bottom, which is a bit too much for Linux. At least, Apple owns the hardware and software. But, with Linux, you have to get the hardware yourself, and install the software yourself. On 2023-01-31 09:22, Stewart Russell via

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
It's become interesting to follow what appears to be a re-invention of the model taking place as CIQ seeks to be for Rocky Linux what Canonical was for Ubuntu (hopefully, better!). There are, to be sure, significant differences between the two pairs' interrelationships; but it

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Dhaval Giani via talk | https://ubuntu.com/pricing/pro Thanks. That helps clarify things. It is kind of tough trying to make a business as a Linux distro. And we all benefit from those who try. Some businesses are more open than others, possibly because they can afford to be. We

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread o1bigtenor via talk
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 8:22 AM Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > > I should really stop running Ubuntu for the good of my health. This morning, > my various Ubuntu systems announced that a whole bunch of packages would be > unavailable unless I registered for Ubuntu Pro —

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 8:22 AM Stewart Russell via talk wrote: > > I should really stop running Ubuntu for the good of my health. This morning, > my various Ubuntu systems announced that a whole bunch of packages would be > unavailable unless I registered for Ubuntu Pro —

[GTALUG] Ubuntu Pro - a new, non-optional walled garden from Canonical

2023-01-31 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
I should really stop running Ubuntu for the good of my health. This morning, my various Ubuntu systems announced that a whole bunch of packages would be unavailable unless I registered for Ubuntu Pro — https://ubuntu.com/pro Ubuntu Pro is free-of-charge for "personal" users for up to five