Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-27 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Ijaaz A. Ullah | Take a look at: https://www.dellrefurbished.ca/desktop-computers Thanks for the link. I do look at that site once in a while but it has been years since I last bought something from them. They don't have these 1 liter boxes very often but they have three "micro"

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-27 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Karen Lewellen via talk | Hi Stewart, | Your comment is no doubt true. however, if one is building a setup for a | simple accommodation, given for Linux and some other systems the older | distros, or the 32 bit ones might actually be better. | Depends on the goal does it not? |

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-27 Thread Karen Lewellen via talk
Hi Stewart, Your comment is no doubt true. however, if one is building a setup for a simple accommodation, given for Linux and some other systems the older distros, or the 32 bit ones might actually be better. Depends on the goal does it not? Consider the freedos project. www.freedos.org

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Ansar Mohammed via talk | Do'h | wrong link | https://www.ebay.ca/itm/125888386765?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=tpIqUIMdSAS=2047675=_ver=artemis=COPY That's different. Better: - five for US$69 + US$39.90 shipping. Close to $150. - Atom N2807 processor (launched Q1 2014, much later

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 3:16 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > > This one is described here. It is the best one listed on this page. > > > Note, though, that parkytowers doesn't seem to have been updated in several years, and didn't typically

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart Russell via talk | On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:53 AM Ansar Mohammed via talk | wrote: | | > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/292442306475 | > | > $20/unit with shipping Interesting. The listing says US$84.94 + US43.97 shipping. A little more that $200. Much worse that two M93p units!

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:53 AM Ansar Mohammed via talk wrote: > https://www.ebay.ca/itm/292442306475 > > $20/unit with shipping > That's got a VIA C7 inside. It's a very slow 32-bit processor that was superseded 15 years ago. Stewart --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread Ansar Mohammed via talk
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/292442306475 $20/unit with shipping On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:43 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > | From: Ansar Mohammed via talk > | > | Most Thin Clients are SFF x64/x86 PCs. Used Dells/HPs are the most > | prevalent and quite inexpensive. > | The "modern" ones i.e.

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-26 Thread Ijaaz A. Ullah via talk
Take a look at: https://www.dellrefurbished.ca/desktop-computers I actually use 10zig thin clients at work as Teradici (HP Anyware) clients, but we've since swapped to these <$200 SFF machines that work just as well. On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:43 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From:

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Ansar Mohammed via talk | | Most Thin Clients are SFF x64/x86 PCs. Used Dells/HPs are the most | prevalent and quite inexpensive. | The "modern" ones i.e. the ones that have been manufactured over the last | 10 years come with 1080p and premium sound. | Parkytowers is a pretty good

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread Ansar Mohammed via talk
Most Thin Clients are SFF x64/x86 PCs. Used Dells/HPs are the most prevalent and quite inexpensive. The "modern" ones i.e. the ones that have been manufactured over the last 10 years come with 1080p and premium sound. Parkytowers is a pretty good repository

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread Alex Kink via talk
By "thin client" do you mean the ultra small form factor (USFF) PC or an actual client (such as Dell Wyse, which is basically a RDP/Citrix/VNC client and not a stand alone computer)? I hope this is not against the mailing list rules, but I've been using these guys out of Burlington for years

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Ansar Mohammed via talk | Get a used Dell Thin client. Amazing tiny boxes. Do you have a link to an offer that you think is worthy? I'd be interested to see what they are. Are they "Wyse" branded? (I see several apparently bad choices when I search for "dell thin client" with

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread Ansar Mohammed via talk
Get a used Dell Thin client. Amazing tiny boxes. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 2:35 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Stewart C. Russell via talk > > | * availability of hardware: small Linux computers are in very short > supply > | right now; and > | > | * sound quality: the built-in

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-25 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | On 24/04/2023 02.35, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > There are a lot of used Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p Tiny computers | > available, starting at $100. | These are neat, but I was thinking of a portable device like the later DECTalk | boxes. Still,

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-24 Thread William Park via talk
Thanks Hugh, I'm trying to think of use case at work. On 2023-04-24 02:35, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: ... There are a lot of used Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p Tiny computers available, starting at $100. These are ancient "1 liter" PCs that are great for Linux. Built like tanks. I have

Re: [GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-24 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 24/04/2023 02.35, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: There are a lot of used Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p Tiny computers available, starting at $100. These are neat, but I was thinking of a portable device like the later DECTalk boxes. Still, that's a heck of a deal. I may replace my 2013

[GTALUG] Cheap small computers [was Re: DECTalk TTS in source for Linux]

2023-04-24 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | * availability of hardware: small Linux computers are in very short supply | right now; and | | * sound quality: the built-in audio hardware on most single-board Linux | computers sounds atrocious. Without an add-on amplifier/equalizer, I think | you'd be