Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-05 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | But … they're inside your router's firewall? Sure, they dial out for updates | sometimes, but what doesn't? Depending on a single firewall isn't considered good form. Each machine should be hardened too. Otherwise your network is crunchy on the outside and

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-05 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2020-06-04 10:51 a.m., D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: I don't like putting printers on my network. … They don't have a firewall that I can examine and configure. But … they're inside your router's firewall? Sure, they dial out for updates sometimes, but what doesn't? The one disad

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-04 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | On 2020-06-03 2:21 p.m., Peter King via talk wrote: | > Why this | > is *easier* with wireless than it is with a direct connection I couldn't | > say | | There's much less software between you and the printer when you use IPP. Much | less to go wrong. Than

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-03 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2020-06-03 2:21 p.m., Peter King via talk wrote: Thanks to the write-up from Stewart, I managed to print to the HP 1102w printer by disconnecting USB and using wireless IPP protocol. Yay! I'm glad this worked for you. I was hoping my walkthrough would be useful, and was worried it just came

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-03 Thread John Sellens via talk
I think "falsisign" looks like fun: FalsiScan: Make it look like a PDF has been hand signed and scanned https://gitlab.com/edouardklein/falsisign You scan and save a bunch of signatures. Then the code modifies the original PDF to look scanned and puts a random signature where you say to

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-03 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 14:51, Scott Allen wrote: > and you still save the initial "print the form --> sign it" steps. That should have been "sign it --> scan it back in" steps I use a Wacom tablet to do the signing. -- Scott --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this ma

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-03 Thread Scott Allen via talk
On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 14:21, Peter King via talk wrote: > (Doing admin > work I often am in the cycle of getting forms to sign via email --> print > the form --> sign it --> scan it back in --> send back via email.) If your forms are in PDF format, and you don't actually need an exact physical co

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-03 Thread Peter King via talk
Thanks to the write-up from Stuart, I managed to print to the HP 1102w printer by disconnecting USB and using wireless IPP protocol. Why this is *easier* with wireless than it is with a direct connection I couldn't say, but at least I have a way to print from linux now. (Doing admin work I often

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:46:16AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > I've given up printing from Linux. I go to Windows 10 laptop, scp the > file from Linux, then print from there. Always works. Hmm, I had not printed from linux in a long time, so I thought I would try. Printed a test page

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2020-06-01 9:23 a.m., Peter King via talk wrote: Brother advertises "PostScript 3 Emulation" which I thought was code for using Ghostscript or whatever. I just checked: the Brother MFC-L2750DW I have *does* claim to have BR-Script3 and PCL6, but IPP doesn't need to use it. CUPS will usuall

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread John Moniz via talk
Thanks for the write-up Stewart, very useful for a non-admin home user like me. John. > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Stewart C. Russell via talk" > Date: June 1, 2020 at 12:20 PM > > > On 2020-06-01 10:14 a.m., Christopher Browne via talk wrote: > > >

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2020-06-01 10:14 a.m., Christopher Browne via talk wrote: But I had gotten myself accustomed to the impression that "with CUPS, It Just Works(tm)", so colour me surprised. Has Microsoft pushed back to try to get WinPrinters back to be a thing? I don't think so. Since all printers (except c

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2020-06-01 10:14 AM, Christopher Browne via talk wrote: At that time, interoperability with printers and Linux was very much fraught with troubles.  Those were the days of WinModems and WinPrinters where Microsoft was trying to capture market by making sure that lots of devices would ONLY talk

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Mauro Souza via talk
I have a Deskjet 2130 that I paid pennies for, and it works on my Ubuntu, works on a RedHat Enterprise Linux, works on the chromebooks... It's my first printer in a lng time, because now I have kids in the school and a printer is essential, but I usually never had issues with CUPS. Mauro http:

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Christopher Browne via talk
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 09:26, Peter King via talk wrote: > Sad days when people who voluntarily use Linux and are tech-savvy just > give up on printing -- printing! -- because it isn't worth the effort. > There shouldn't *be* any effort by now; it's 2020, for goodness sakes. > I guess I'm surpris

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Peter King via talk
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:46:16AM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: > I've given up printing from Linux. I go to Windows 10 laptop, scp the > file from Linux, then print from there. Always works. Yeah, my workaround is to scp files over to MacOS and print from there, which also works reliabl

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Peter King via talk
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 08:56:39PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > PostScript, in new printers, is extremely rare. Even Brother stopped doing > BRSCRIPT a few years back. More of them speak PDF directly. Brother advertises "PostScript 3 Emulation" which I thought was code for using G

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-06-01 Thread Peter King via talk
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 07:12:33PM -0400, Dave Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > >Ah yes, the "modem testing problem" redux. Exactly! >I've had good luck with an HP "Color LaserJetPro MFP M177fw", but I >don't enjoy a system where you buy a printer and only then find out if >you ha

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-05-31 Thread William Park via talk
I've given up printing from Linux. I go to Windows 10 laptop, scp the file from Linux, then print from there. Always works. -- William Park On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 06:23:38PM -0400, Peter King via talk wrote: > Eric S. Raymond was right about CUPS some fourteen years ago, in his essay > "The L

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-05-31 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2020-05-31 6:23 p.m., Peter King via talk wrote: I'm considering buying something that should just work, that is, of getting a monochrome single-function laser printer with embedded PostScript to handle my needs PostScript, in new printers, is extremely rare. Even Brother stopped doing BRS

Re: [GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-05-31 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
On 2020-05-31 6:23 p.m., Peter King via talk wrote: Eric S. Raymond was right about CUPS some fourteen years ago, in his essay "The Luxury of Ignorance" (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html), and things really haven't gotten any better. Here's an update since I last posted about

[GTALUG] Continuing Printer Woes

2020-05-31 Thread Peter King via talk
Eric S. Raymond was right about CUPS some fourteen years ago, in his essay "The Luxury of Ignorance" (http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html), and things really haven't gotten any better. Here's an update since I last posted about six weeks ago. I had an HP LaserJet 1100a, which worke