Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hugh, I think I mostly prefer to stick to Intel drivers for what now is considered legacy reasons, right now I'm working on a computer that's got RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet and it's works just fine. But five to ten years ago I remember Linux and OpenBSD developers going

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 01:25:58PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > My zboxes use Realtek gigabit ethernet. > > I know that those in the know prefer Intel but I'm not up to speed on > why. > > I'll give you a why not: Intel ethernet seems to collude with Intel > Management Engine to

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | Looking at their drivers, the ones I checked were all intel wifi and | realtek gigabit. My zboxes use Realtek gigabit ethernet. I know that those in the know prefer Intel but I'm not up to speed on why. I'll give you a why not: Intel

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 03:51:17PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Zotac has announced some ZBox models with AMD Ryzen Processors. > > If you like NUCs, you might like ZBoxes. They are supposed to be > available "some time in the second quarter" of this year at an > unannounced

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 04:08:36PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I mean a some sort of a splitter driving two monitors. > From reading replies and doing a bit of research, It looks like DisplayPort > has the feature of carrying several video streams and supports that kind of > splitting but

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hey Stewart, Thank you, I'd like to borrow your ColorHug and  I'll contact you off the list about it. Not matching color profile of a dual screen setup have been bane of my existence, for any dual screen setup I managed to experience, I've seen not-so-slightly matching color temperature

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On 27 February 2018 at 16:08, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > > What is the procedure for calibration? is there a way to do it in Linux? > Do I need a special device for that? > Yes, you need a device, but the procedure is simple. I can lend you my ColorHug, a display calibrator

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hi Hugh, Thank you for your comments, see my replies below. On 02/27/18 15:34, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: Alex Volkov via talk | On 02/27/18 11:32, Lennart Sorensen wrote: | > Displayport is much much more versatile and futureproof. And supports | > daisy

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Alex Volkov via talk | If I were to go with Intel-based system, I'd probably go with the NUC. Zotac has announced some ZBox models with AMD Ryzen Processors. If you like NUCs, you might like ZBoxes. They are supposed to be available "some time in the second quarter"

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Alex Volkov via talk | On 02/27/18 11:32, Lennart Sorensen wrote: | > Displayport is much much more versatile and futureproof. And supports | > daisy chaining monitors and higher resolution than HDMI. Also trivially | > adapts to DVI, HDMI, etc. I would not consider

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Stewart Russell via talk | With Newegg, some of their "sold and shipped by Newegg Canada" items are | shipped from the US. I couldn't work out if there was any logic to what was | being shipped from where. I *think* that one way you can tell is by whether the item is

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:25:19PM -0500, Alex Volkov wrote: > All the cheap screens I have either have HDMI or DVI, so I thought to have a > simple common display output that would give me the same gamma settings > across all of the screens. Displayport is more versatile, and there seem to >

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:31:15PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > I tried to spec-out similar system to what I'm trying to get, and it's way, > way more expensive if I'm going to buy all the parts from Lenovo. > > If I were to go with Intel-based system, I'd probably go with the NUC. Yes

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
If I'm going to go with building my own case from parts, I'm considering, maybe, I could 3D print the case, it **should** fit build volume of my printer, but CPU cooler will likely ruin that idea. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:495941 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1899854

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
I tried to spec-out similar system to what I'm trying to get, and it's way, way more expensive if I'm going to buy all the parts from Lenovo. If I were to go with Intel-based system, I'd probably go with the NUC. On 02/27/18 11:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Jamon, Yes, the whole Intel Ethernet, wifi and bluetooth combo should not raise any issues in Linux. On 02/26/18 20:03, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: On 2018-02-26 07:36 PM, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: Hey everyone, I'm assembling a computer and I'm looking for some feedback. The computer

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hey Stuart, Yeah, I'll go with NVMe, I found one that's only $10 more expensive than SATA part I've picked. I'm in no rush to build the system, in fact I might even wait for MSI B350 board to get shipped to the retailers. On 02/27/18 12:19, Stewart Russell via talk wrote: On Feb 27, 2018

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hey Lennart, Thank you for you comments, see my replies below. On 02/27/18 11:32, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 07:36:36PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: Hey everyone, I'm assembling a computer and I'm looking for some feedback. The computer I'm building I'll use for

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Stewart Russell via talk
On Feb 27, 2018 11:32, "Lennart Sorensen via talk" wrote: Why a SATA M.2 rather than the much faster NVMe? I got NVMe for about the same price as SATA last year. It's definitely worth the upgrade, though do be sure your board's BIOS is updated to understand it. With Newegg,

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:34:59AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Apparently depending on the CPU model and how well the board is made, > it MIGHT be HDMI 2.0 compatible. The 2400G is apparently one of the > chips that should support HDMI 2.0 if the board is done properly. Oh and I

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 07:36:36PM -0500, Alex Volkov via talk wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'm assembling a computer and I'm looking for some feedback. > > The computer I'm building I'll use for development, run some VMs, edit video > time-to-time.  I also already have a 1Gb hard drive which I

Re: [GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-27 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:32:11AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > Displayport is much much more versatile and futureproof. And supports > daisy chaining monitors and higher resolution than HDMI. Also trivially > adapts to DVI, HDMI, etc. I would not consider buying anything without >

[GTALUG] PC build recommendation

2018-02-26 Thread Alex Volkov via talk
Hey everyone, I'm assembling a computer and I'm looking for some feedback. The computer I'm building I'll use for development, run some VMs, edit video time-to-time.  I also already have a 1Gb hard drive which I plan to use for VMs. One of the big requirements is to be small size, lots of