Re: [nyphp-talk] IDE help switching from Windows to MAC

2007-01-24 Thread edward potter
Super simple install. Works great. Welcome to Mac land! http://www.mamp.info/en/index.php On 1/24/07, Cliff Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just made the jump from Windows to MAC and am looking for software suggestion. Perhaps a suggested software list for the group would be useful. My que

Re: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Anirudh Zala
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 19:25, Brian Dailey wrote: > Does anyone have any experience or information on converting a simple > Word document to a PDF? I've seen a few utilities that do this, but all > of them are Word doc to printer to PDF hacks, and most are dependent > upon an installation of

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Hans C. Kaspersetz
These are some of my comments based on a quick read of Ted's article. Object-to-Table Mapping Problem We ended up adopting the table per concrete class approach. We did denormalize and we accepted the costs. We had the data base much more normalized but the inheritance issues became too prob

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Kenneth Downs
tedd wrote: At 3:42 PM -0500 1/24/07, Kenneth Downs wrote: tedd wrote: Interesting characterization -- Obviously, it's not Vietnam, but instead those who served in Vietnam that are the object of that characterization. Are Vietnam Vets commonly thought of as "getting hooked on it and start dr

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread tedd
At 3:42 PM -0500 1/24/07, Kenneth Downs wrote: tedd wrote: Interesting characterization -- Obviously, it's not Vietnam, but instead those who served in Vietnam that are the object of that characterization. Are Vietnam Vets commonly thought of as "getting hooked on it and start dreaming big dr

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Hans C. Kaspersetz
I believe this is where I will make a fool of myself, but I will give it a shot anyway. 1. Yes, we scratch built the system in house. 2. Your correct, if we make a change to the schema of the database we have to represent that change in data model. If we remove something from the database and

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Houle
Hans C. Kaspersetz wrote: ORM is a beautiful thing. We are using ORM extensively on a large financial application and it works absolute wonders. It has made many non trivial tasks, especially those that involving very complex objects that span many tables, very manageable. I was not a belie

[nyphp-talk] IDE help switching from Windows to MAC

2007-01-24 Thread Cliff Hirsch
I just made the jump from Windows to MAC and am looking for software suggestion. Perhaps a suggested software list for the group would be useful. My questions for a MAC development environment: 1. Use OSX Apache or install new one? 2. Any gotchas with MySQL? 3. I love php/Smarty/MySQL/PEAR chm fil

Re: [nyphp-talk] Finding Horde libraries

2007-01-24 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch
Quoting csnyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: In Chuck's excellent talk last night he alluded to the possibility of re-using Horde library code outside of the framework itself. Anybody have any idea how to track down a list of the "60 or so" PEAR-style libraries he mentioned? There are a couple of dif

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch
This is, as far as I am aware, the originator of the term and his exposition on it: http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx I hope that clears up at least somewhat the context in which the term was mentioned during the talk. -chuck -- "we are plastered t

Re: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Russ Demarest
Since nobody pointed this out yet, OS X prints to PDF from any application. Russ David Krings wrote: Brian Dailey wrote: Does anyone have any experience or information on converting a simple Word document to a PDF? I've seen a few utilities that do this, but all of them are Word doc to printe

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread tedd
At 2:50 PM -0500 1/24/07, David Mintz wrote: tedd, I think if you re-read carefully you will see that -snip- and there is no offense or disrespect in there at all. Come on, while it my not be intentional or fully thought-out, the disrespect is obvious for Gods' sake! Pardon my language, but we

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Kenneth Downs
tedd wrote: Interesting characterization -- Obviously, it's not Vietnam, but instead those who served in Vietnam that are the object of that characterization. Are Vietnam Vets commonly thought of as "getting hooked on it and start dreaming big dreams and nothing gets done"? Just wondering why

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread David Mintz
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, tedd wrote: > Interesting characterization -- Obviously, it's not Vietnam, but > instead those who served in Vietnam that are the object of that > characterization. Are Vietnam Vets commonly thought of as "getting > hooked on it and start dreaming big dreams and nothing gets

RE: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Baer, Jon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Propel is a very awesome PHP5-only library ... But if you want ease of ORM I'd still go w/ Cake ... http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2007/01/23/sugar-icing-on-the-cake/ I also missed the meeting but was this mentioned? -> http://www.phpobjectgenerator.com/

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread tedd
At 8:01 AM -0500 1/24/07, Kenneth Downs wrote: That was a nice presentation last night by Chuck. One thing that struck me was that term for ORM, the "Viet Nam of programming", I am definitely one of those who will go so far as to call it that. My own analogy before hearing this one was "heroin

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Withington
Propel - http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/ On 1/24/07, LK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately I missed that meeting. A search on SourceForge revealed only two non-empty ORM tools for PHP: phpDBObject and Doctrine. Can anyone recommend one of them or an equivalent commercial package? Thanks.

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread LK
Unfortunately I missed that meeting. A search on SourceForge revealed only two non-empty ORM tools for PHP: phpDBObject and Doctrine. Can anyone recommend one of them or an equivalent commercial package? Thanks. Leo - Original Message From: Kenneth Downs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: NYP

[nyphp-talk] Finding Horde libraries

2007-01-24 Thread csnyder
In Chuck's excellent talk last night he alluded to the possibility of re-using Horde library code outside of the framework itself. Anybody have any idea how to track down a list of the "60 or so" PEAR-style libraries he mentioned? -- Chris Snyder http://chxo.com/

Re: [nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Hans C. Kaspersetz
ORM is a beautiful thing. We are using ORM extensively on a large financial application and it works absolute wonders. It has made many non trivial tasks, especially those that involving very complex objects that span many tables, very manageable. I was not a believer at first, I thought it

RE: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Peter Sawczynec
Just for reference Adobe offers these sorts of online services too: Create PDFs online by uploading files to Adobe (not free, but affordable): http://createpdf.adobe.com/ Convert PDF to text or HTML (free): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_onlinetools.html A biz that does this a lot

Re: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread David Krings
Brian Dailey wrote: Does anyone have any experience or information on converting a simple Word document to a PDF? I've seen a few utilities that do this, but all of them are Word doc to printer to PDF hacks, and most are dependent upon an installation of Word or Open Office. There's got to be a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Nazmul Hassan
um, i was going to say Open Office, but nvm. http://www.zamzar.com/ < - that seemed to work, when i had pdfs to view at school. On 1/24/07, Nazmul Hassan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/24/07, Brian Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience or information on conve

Re: [nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Nazmul Hassan
On 1/24/07, Brian Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have any experience or information on converting a simple Word document to a PDF? I've seen a few utilities that do this, but all of them are Word doc to printer to PDF hacks, and most are dependent upon an installation of Word or O

[nyphp-talk] Word Doc to PDF?

2007-01-24 Thread Brian Dailey
Does anyone have any experience or information on converting a simple Word document to a PDF? I've seen a few utilities that do this, but all of them are Word doc to printer to PDF hacks, and most are dependent upon an installation of Word or Open Office. There's got to be an easier way. Than

[nyphp-talk] Never heard that term: Viet Nam of programming

2007-01-24 Thread Kenneth Downs
That was a nice presentation last night by Chuck. One thing that struck me was that term for ORM, the "Viet Nam of programming", I am definitely one of those who will go so far as to call it that. My own analogy before hearing this one was "heroin for programmers", they get hooked on it and s

Re: [nyphp-talk] Radial Zip Code Search

2007-01-24 Thread Paul
I have used this and got it working with some help from members of this list. Works fine for me. Also has the database of all the zip codes. Paul Guba On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Ken Robinson wrote: At 03:44 PM 1/19/2007, Donna Marie Vincent wrote: Hi, all. I am looking for a script, o