Hi there:
I'm experiencing problems with Safari file uploads into my CMS (self-
built). This is a system that's been in use/development for years and
years, without problem. It doesn't do anything too exotic (AJAX,
etc.)...just a simple multipart/form-data form with file upload fields.
F
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Andre Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is so in depth. I hadn't seriously thought about css sprites yet.
> I'm saving this for future reference.
CSS sprites are a pain in the ass to manage. I'd recommend all of the
other options first. If you do decide
This is so in depth. I hadn't seriously thought about css sprites yet.
I'm saving this for future reference.
John Campbell wrote:
8) What factors determine your recommended maximum home page size (in
kilobytes)? How are the factors related?
My answer:
The number of kilobytes is irrele
Néstor,
The test is not pass/fail. But if it was you'd have definitely passed :-)
-André
This seem to be a test more for a front end person than a back end
programmer.
A lot of this stuff I have done but I do not remember it. I think I
would fail this test
without a book around.
I went to a
Oh, I posed this as a rhetorical question...
Jake McGraw wrote:
For all the debate (preaching) that has taken place, I honestly
couldn't answer your question without a clearer job description, like
what exactly will be the responsibilities of this new hire?
So, do you suggest we just scrap t
tedd wrote:
I'm not saying that he shouldn't answered the question as you intended,
but let's stop and examine this incident -- your question was:
7) a and b are variables.
a = 10
b = 20
a = b
The new values of a and b are, respectively:
And his answer was:
a= 0.5, b=1
In
At 2:28 PM -0400 4/14/08, André Pitanga wrote:
First candidate finished his exam:
Answer to 7) a= 0.5, b=1
I'm not kidding...
ps. I'm not hating. I'm sharing this with the
community because I think it's valuable info.
André:
I'm not saying that he shouldn't answered the
question as you i
> Given a single elimination tennis tournament (you loose a match and you're
> out)
> with N players. How many matches are required to determine a winner? Here
> is
> an example, four players A, B, C, and D. In the first round, A play B and C
> plays
> D. A and D win. So far 2 matches and 2 pla
> 8) What factors determine your recommended maximum home page size (in
> kilobytes)? How are the factors related?
My answer:
The number of kilobytes is irrelevant to the user. Page load time is
what matters.
To improve the page load time, the following items are a good idea:
1) Minimize the n
At 10:07 AM -0400 4/14/08, André Pitanga wrote:
So, we're hiring a new webmaster here at work
and I was tasked with producing a simple
technical test. The person is supposed to have
two years experience as a web dev. There's three
parts: html, css, and webmaster questions. What
do you think?
On the topic of tests and testing and unreasonable requests from would-
be employers or clients:
Recently there was a lady who posted not only to Craig's List Gigs
section but also to this list, "desperate" for a developer to start
ASAP. I sent over my resume and she responded saying "send a co
sorry, of course -- I'm at work and wrote it in a hurry -- anyway, you pass :)
- Original Message
From: André Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NYPHP Talk
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:08:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] OT: webmaster test
Susan Shemin wrote:
> For CSS, give div style
I prefer nano to be honest.
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Brian O'Connor wrote:
i prefer gedit :)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jake McGraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://xkcd.com/378/
I use Eclipse + PDT, guess I'm a newb.
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Ben Sgro <[EMAIL P
> p.s. top-posting is nasty.
My bad, I was addressing your entire response, should have included
more inlines.
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Jerry B. Altzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 2008-04-14 15:37 Jake McGraw said the following:
>
>
> > I wasn't out to dissuade anyone from u
André Pitanga wrote:
Hey David Krings,
Thanks for the awesome, sometimes passionate, responses!
You are welcome, passionate responses are my speciality.
I'd pass it and I think I'd be the worst webmaster you ever had.
The test is non eliminatory, and is not the sole factor being
consider
Yes, but this would be okay:
body {
color: black;
background-color: white
}
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Ken Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting Allen Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> André Pitanga wrote:
> >
> > > 4) Which is the correct CSS syntax?
> > > a) body {color: bla
Brian O'Connor wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Allen Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
not if its the last element in the block
Okay, I'll take that. Back to my day job...
- A.
--
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slidePresenter (http://slides.sour
i prefer gedit :)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jake McGraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/378/
>
> I use Eclipse + PDT, guess I'm a newb.
>
> - jake
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Ben Sgro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use emacs
> >
> > Matt Juszczak wrote:
> >
> > >
>
Allen Shaw wrote:
Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
body {color: black;}
- Allen
Yet, yes, semi-colons are helpful, and one must be aware of their impact
in certain situations, like error handling, for example:
"User agents must ignore an invalid at-keyword together with every
Jake McGraw wrote:
giving a candidate a test that makes them reconsider their
choice to apply (or even showup) by insulting their intelligence.
- jake
That's actually my main concern, Jake. There was definitely no intention
to insult anybody's intelligence.
I've been on the receiving end of t
on 2008-04-14 15:37 Jake McGraw said the following:
I wasn't out to dissuade anyone from utilizing some kind of pseudo
code testing, I'm just trying to offer an alternative point of view,
the receiving end of interviews (interviewee if you will).
Certainly your viewpoint is valid, and valued.
He is not a programmer is he can not understand that. The person could be a
designer.
It depends what you want them to do. IF you want them to do back end work
they better get the answer correct.
But if you want them to do mainly front end work/design web pages then can
get this question wrong
This seem to be a test more for a front end person than a back end
programmer.
A lot of this stuff I have done but I do not remember it. I think I would
fail this test
without a book around.
I went to an interview once for a Perl programmer and they gave me a test
like
this and I said I will not
Susan Shemin wrote:
For CSS, give div style code with an index attribute and ask what the
index is for.
You mean like z-index?
-André
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Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
body {color: black;}
- Allen
The following is "valid" CSS as well:
|
p[example="public class foo\
{\
private int x;\
\
foo(int x) {\
this.x = x;\
}\
\
}"] { color: red }|
-André
__
Hey Allen Shaw,
Andr� Pitanga wrote:
4) Which is the correct CSS syntax?
a) body {color: black}
b) body:color=black
c) {body:color=black}
d) {body color:black}
Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
body {color: black;}
- Allen
According to http://www.w3.or
Quoting Allen Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
André Pitanga wrote:
4) Which is the correct CSS syntax?
a) body {color: black}
b) body:color=black
c) {body:color=black}
d) {body color:black}
Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
body {color: black;}
CSS only requires
not if its the last element in the block
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Allen Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> André Pitanga wrote:
>
> > 4) Which is the correct CSS syntax?
> > a) body {color: black}
> > b) body:color=black
> > c) {body:color=black}
> > d) {body color:blac
http://xkcd.com/378/
I use Eclipse + PDT, guess I'm a newb.
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Ben Sgro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use emacs
>
> Matt Juszczak wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc. But I
> don't use vi. It isn't my
@David Krings and Rolan
hired and hired ;)
When should a hyperlink *not* be blue and underlined? why?
When the page background is blue?
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For all the debate (preaching) that has taken place, I honestly
couldn't answer your question without a clearer job description, like
what exactly will be the responsibilities of this new hire?
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, André Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Jake McGraw,
>
>
On man, I should have kept my mouth shut about interviewees rights.
;-P
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, André Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First candidate finished his exam:
>
> Answer to 7) a= 0.5, b=1
>
> I'm not kidding...
>
> ps. I'm not hating. I'm sharing this with the
I wasn't out to dissuade anyone from utilizing some kind of pseudo
code testing, I'm just trying to offer an alternative point of view,
the receiving end of interviews (interviewee if you will).
In my, admittedly limited experience, I've found company interviews
that start, contain, or end with, "
David Krings wrote:
But in that case, couldn't a malicious candidate grab code from
somewhere?
They of course would need to be able to explain it. If they can do
that, who cares from where they copied it unless it violates licensing
terms.
Oh, of course, they'd have to explain it...
You kn
Matt Juszczak wrote:
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc.
But I don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one
defend themselves there?
Just lie... ;-)
(I kid...)
I guess you could say "anything but dreamweaver" (hired. went on to grok
vim lat
Hey David Krings,
Thanks for the awesome, sometimes passionate, responses!
I'd pass it and I think I'd be the worst webmaster you ever had.
The test is non eliminatory, and is not the sole factor being
considered. It's just a basic test...
Why do you say you'd be the worst webmaster we ever
Start talking about emacs for three hours?
-Tim
Matt Juszczak wrote:
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc.
But I don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one
defend themselves there?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, André Pitanga wrote:
Hey Edward Potter
you cant be well versed in *nix unless you know vi.
On Apr 14, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Matt Juszczak wrote:
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc.
But I don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one
defend themselves there?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, André
A better test would be to give a line of HTML code or a CSS definition and ask
the person to describe what it does. Anyone can look up code from a book or
the internet, but they have to understand the code's usage to look for the
answer.
For instance put form code on the test with an image for
on 2008-04-14 14:19 Matt Juszczak said the following:
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc. But
I don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one defend
themselves there?
"But I'm just fine with ed(1)"
//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman[EMAIL PRO
André Pitanga wrote:
4) Which is the correct CSS syntax?
a) body {color: black}
b) body:color=black
c) {body:color=black}
d) {body color:black}
Doesn't correct CSS syntax require a semicolon?
body {color: black;}
- Allen
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slidePresenter (http://slides.sour
I use emacs
Matt Juszczak wrote:
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc.
But I don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one
defend themselves there?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, André Pitanga wrote:
Hey Edward Potter,
And my only coder question:
How g
Hey Jake McGraw,
Yes, I was able to answer all of the questions, but
had I been given the exam, I would have immediately recognized that
this is not the gig for me.
Why? We're not trying to break people down with this test, you know?
You sound exactly like the type of candidate we're trying
André Pitanga wrote:
> I really dislike cool stuff... Here's my designer question:
When should a hyperlink *not* be blue and underlined? why?
When the page background is blue?
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First candidate finished his exam:
Answer to 7) a= 0.5, b=1
I'm not kidding...
ps. I'm not hating. I'm sharing this with the community because I think
it's valuable info.
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André Pitanga wrote:
You can also request they submit code when they apply for the position.
But in that case, couldn't a malicious candidate grab code from somewhere?
They of course would need to be able to explain it. If they can do that, who
cares from where they copied it unless it viola
André Pitanga wrote:
I really dislike cool stuff... Here's my designer question:
When should a hyperlink *not* be blue and underlined? why?
When the background page is blue...
~Rolan
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Hey Guilherme Blanco,
My last job appliance I had 8h to write a full working application of
an address book, with an employee at my side looking at any line I was
writing.
Ah... I had the possibility to use anything I wanted.
The data source was an XML file, no app spec, at least 2 views (table
o
André Pitanga wrote:
So, we're hiring a new webmaster here at work and I was tasked with
producing a simple technical test. The person is supposed to have two
years experience as a web dev. There's three parts: html, css, and
webmaster questions. What do you think?
(bonus: I'll tell you what m
So I consider myself to be well-versed in *nix/php/mysql/lamp/etc. But I
don't use vi. It isn't my editor of choice. So how would one defend
themselves there?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, André Pitanga wrote:
Hey Edward Potter,
And my only coder question:
How good are you with vi at the command
When bringing on a new programmer for any contract that interfaces with the government you MAY care about "school, grades, or the results of a test [certification]" It may be required by the contract, either directly or by limiting the salaries based on education and/or certification.
Tan
on 2008-04-14 11:58 Jake McGraw said the following:
me = 24 year old with 20 months experience
me = older
1 year 1 month - Crap job outta college (very sketchy lead generating company)
7 months - Two man start up (I was the only developer)
Current gig at a small (50 employees), tech company.
Hey Edward Potter,
And my only coder question:
How good are you with vi at the command line?
That's indeed all one need to know. I wish there were more webmasters
of this ilk around though ;)
And my only designer question:
Show me cool stuff.
I really dislike cool stuff... Here's
I concur with Ed, with one caveat:
When bringing on a new programmer for any contract that interfaces with the
government you MAY care about "school, grades, or the results of a test
[certification]" It may be required by the contract, either directly or by
limiting the salaries based on educa
Fizzbuzz is a good test. I would not hire a "programmer" if s/he failed to
solve Fizzbuzz in under 5 minutes in your target language(s). I would also
allow for some minor syntax errors if the solution otherwise worked -
favoring logical thinking over an emphasis on syntax. Also, while
implementi
I'm fond of asking candidates to code something simple on the spot.
--Dan
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM, André Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Guilherme,
>
>
> > Too focused on CSS.
> >
> >
>
> I was hoping no one would notice that ;)
>
>
> > HTML is simple, and as you may see, you asked 3 questions, all of them
> > CSS related. Try something more difficult
me = 24 year old with 20 months experience
1 year 1 month - Crap job outta college (very sketchy lead generating company)
7 months - Two man start up (I was the only developer)
Current gig at a small (50 employees), tech company.
> 2 years of experience on a résumé doesn't really translate into
Fizzbuzz is an excellent test. I would not hire a "programmer" if s/he
failed to solve Fizzbuzz in under 5 minutes in your target language(s). I
would also allow for some minor syntax errors if the solution otherwise
worked.
Regarding CSS, the inheritance question will prove far more indicative
There is only ONE question to ask, in the immortal words of Steve Jobs:
Have you shipped ANY thing in your life? :-)
And my only coder question:
How good are you with vi at the command line?
And my only designer question:
Show me cool stuff.
You will SAVE years of HR time with those 3 questions
One of the problems I have with your test is that it doesn't look for
insights. I
would look for someone who can problem solve. A good problem solver might
do poorly on your test.
Looking at programming specifically, it's not about syntax, it's
about logic. I've
been programming for 30 years a
Jake McGraw wrote:
This was the first time I'd seen the fizz buzz problem, I like it
because it can really show what level a programmer is at in only a
couple of lines of code, considering there are so many solutions.
- jake
I love fizzbuzz. The only issue I have with it, for this context
Hey Ben Sgro,
Most of the questions you had (1-5) are pretty silly.
Yes. but notice this: the winning candidate's actual manager has asked
me for the answer sheet for the test.
You can also request they submit code when they apply for the position.
But in that case, couldn't a malicious
Hey John,
I agree with the general consensus that these are really soft ball questions.
I too agree! But that's okay though. I was hoping that good candidates
would get ~100% right, you know?
Instead of #10, I ask:
Name two tags that were deprecated in html 4. Why were they deprecated
Hey Guilherme,
Too focused on CSS.
I was hoping no one would notice that ;)
HTML is simple, and as you may see, you asked 3 questions, all of them
CSS related. Try something more difficult too... one example:
is a block element or an inline element?
Yes. But what if instead of asking
Hi Randal:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:51:34AM -0400, Randal Rust wrote:
> My understanding is that PHP automatically cleans up a database
> connection after it has executed the query. Therefore, I don't need to
> use the close() function. Is that correct?
No. close() is called during PHP's clean
This was the first time I'd seen the fizz buzz problem, I like it
because it can really show what level a programmer is at in only a
couple of lines of code, considering there are so many solutions.
- jake
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:59 AM, André Pitanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think th
Hello ladies and gentlemen,
I just want to give a +1 to the previous thoughts. Most of the questions
you had (1-5) are pretty silly.
Ask them to either look at code and predict the behavior, or create
something of their own.
You can also request they submit code when they apply for the positi
on 2008-04-14 10:24 Jake McGraw said the following:
I'd only keep the last two questions:
9) Why use Flash in web development? Why not?
10) Why is "separation of style and content" recommended in web
development?
Having been on the interviewer side of the desk many many times --
interviewing w
I agree with the general consensus that these are really soft ball questions.
Below are a few questions I ask:
Instead of #10, I ask:
Name two tags that were deprecated in html 4. Why were they deprecated?
Other questions I like:
1. What is the difference between, jpeg, gif, and png? When is e
I think that the border question is a little specific. I never
memorize order of parameters, I learn the concepts behind it.
Knowing which position comes first in a border-width command doesn't
really demonstrate your knowledge of css.
True indeed. There's more value in conceptual knowledg
I'd only keep the last two questions
Right on, Jake.
For me the truly relevant questions are 7 to 10. I was hoping 1-5 might
just give the hand-coders a leg up. Number 6 is mostly a gag :)
Also, an inability to answer any one of the
CSS questions wouldn't necessarily be an indication of lac
I used this to write excel files:
http://pear.php.net/package/Spreadsheet_Excel_Writer/redirected
it will do multiple workbooks, which was the only advanced feature i
needed besides just writing data into rows/cols
Not sure if this will work for you..
This one i used for reading excel only:
ht
Too focused on CSS.
HTML is simple, and as you may see, you asked 3 questions, all of them
CSS related. Try something more difficult too... one example:
is a block element or an inline element?
A single programming question and very simple one. Anyone that has a
minimal understand of logic is a
Hello,
I think that the border question is a little specific. I never memorize
order of parameters, I learn the concepts behind it. Knowing which
position comes first in a border-width command doesn't really demonstrate
your knowledge of css.
I think a better question would be something for in
I'd only keep the last two questions:
9) Why use Flash in web development? Why not?
10) Why is "separation of style and content" recommended in web
development?
I think the other questions would be incredibly ineffective in
determining the abilities of a possible employee. All of them could be
p
So, we're hiring a new webmaster here at work and I was tasked with
producing a simple technical test. The person is supposed to have two
years experience as a web dev. There's three parts: html, css, and
webmaster questions. What do you think?
(bonus: I'll tell you what my manager thought)
HT
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