Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Kristina D. H. Anderson wrote: > Although I think these days it's more like, learn the stuff on your own > time and your own dime, and then beg management to let you work on it. > And this could have some drawbacks, most notably more work in the > aggregate, since the ol'

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Leam Hall
Kristina D. H. Anderson wrote: 4. Ask if they can pay for training for you - explain how much more projects they can bid on and get if they have a more diversified work force. I like Ajai's idea #4. The only way management will agree to let you diversify your job duties is if it will put $

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Kristina D. H. Anderson
> 4. Ask if they can pay for training for you - explain how much more > projects they can bid on and get if they have a more diversified work > force. > I like Ajai's idea #4. The only way management will agree to let you diversify your job duties is if it will put in their pocket some

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Glenn Powell wrote: > You can probably get Drupal things done very quickly compared to > others at your workplace... quick=profit (or getting the job in the > first place.) > > I would guess that your career development is not at the top of the > priority list for your

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Glenn Powell
My jaded 2 cents... It's cheaper for your employer to use the most experienced Drupal developer for Drupal work. You can probably get Drupal things done very quickly compared to others at your workplace... quick=profit (or getting the job in the first place.) I would guess that your car

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Anthony Wlodarski
Oh I hope it didn't seem like I was incompetent in PHP, far from it. Just that every project I get is Drupal based and I want to branch out. All I can put on my resume is Drupal, Drupal, and more Drupal! I worked with it for 1.5 years. Built about twenty custom modules. Installed memcache a do

Re: [nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Brent Baisley
Congrats, you have job security! One rarely learns all there is to know about a piece of software. Drupal is written in PHP, why not learn PHP? Write some plugins or even submit code for inclusion into Drupal. Knowing Drupal isn't going to qualify you for other projects, only Drupal projects. Kno

[nyphp-talk] Learned one CMS and want to move on.

2009-07-27 Thread Anthony Wlodarski
I have been lucky/unfortunate to have acquired quite a lot of knowledge about a certain CMS (Drupal). Now although I built a pretty cool website and have tackled a lot of the scalability issues I believe I have learned all that I can from the software and would like to move on. Currently I am in

Re: [nyphp-talk] Frameworks & Fast Iterations

2009-07-27 Thread Jake McGraw
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Mintz wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Petros Ziogas > wrote: >> >> Actually I am referring to those exact features. >> Zend decided to change the way a project is deployed using Zend Bootstrap, >> Loader and Zend Tool. >> So suddenly all documen

Re: [nyphp-talk] Frameworks & Fast Iterations

2009-07-27 Thread David Mintz
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Petros Ziogas wrote: > Actually I am referring to those exact features. > Zend decided to change the way a project is deployed using Zend Bootstrap, > Loader and Zend Tool. > > So suddenly all documentation refers to code that looks completely > different than the

Re: [nyphp-talk] Frameworks & Fast Iterations

2009-07-27 Thread David Mintz
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jake McGraw wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Petros Ziogas > wrote: > > I have the exact same problem. > > I find it a little immature to change the way a framework is deployed and > > the setup after 6 months. > > I created a nice CMS based on Zend 1.6 a

Re: [nyphp-talk] Frameworks & Fast Iterations

2009-07-27 Thread Petros Ziogas
Actually I am referring to those exact features. Zend decided to change the way a project is deployed using Zend Bootstrap, Loader and Zend Tool. So suddenly all documentation refers to code that looks completely different than the code I wrote 6 months ago. Zend has done a great job documenting