At 4:45 PM -0400 8/28/09, Chuck Reeves wrote:
On more solution would be to have a roll over the word/phrase that
will present the user with a list of articles matching that title.
This way for the Americas problem, the user can then choose which
article s/he would like to goto instead of lettin
Title: Re: [nyphp-talk] Dynamically Add Links to
Text
At 10:11 PM +0300 8/28/09, Petros Ziogas wrote:
Hi Tedd,
That were some good ideas about the
problems that I thought will arise.
What you forgeting is that you can't just
decide what is more important and what is not. I mean it mig
On more solution would be to have a roll over the word/phrase that will
present the user with a list of articles matching that title. This way for
the Americas problem, the user can then choose which article s/he would like
to goto instead of letting the system decide for them. This will make the
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Petros Ziogas wrote:
> That were some good ideas about the problems that I thought will arise.
Actually, everyone has had very good thoughts on the entire process.
Enough for me to attempt to develop a solution, but also enough to
know that it will not be a _perfe
Hi Tedd,
That were some good ideas about the problems that I thought will arise.
What you forgeting is that you can't just decide what is more important and
what is not. I mean it might be that logically the short article (e.g.
America) should be linked and not the long one. If the articles are ma
Another little add on to these solutions would be to include some kind of
counter that will prevent the bot form linking more then X times. This way
when the article loads, it will not be just one big stream of links.
Thank You
Chuck Reeves
Cell: 631-374-0772
Email: chuck.ree...@gmail.com
On Fr
At 8:21 AM -0400 8/28/09, Randal Rust wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Petros Ziogas wrote:
I think you get my point...
LOL. Oh yes. I have spent a lot of time thinking about this over the
past few years, so a lot of the issues discussed in this thread I have
thought of, but there hav
At 1:00 PM +0300 8/28/09, Petros Ziogas wrote:
I would just like to mention a point of failure in that automated
proccess. I had to deal with this in a previous project so it's
quite fresh.
What will happen if:
Problem 1
There are 3 articles. Article A is titled "History of America".
Artic
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Petros Ziogas wrote:
> I think you get my point...
LOL. Oh yes. I have spent a lot of time thinking about this over the
past few years, so a lot of the issues discussed in this thread I have
thought of, but there have been some new ones. It has been a very
helpful
I would just like to mention a point of failure in that automated proccess.
I had to deal with this in a previous project so it's quite fresh.
What will happen if:
e.g.
There are 3 articles. Article A is titled "History of America". Article B is
titled "Glorious History of America". In article C t
continuation from last post... and another idea...
When you get the list of record ids, select enough of the text around
the (target phrase to be "linkafied") to give it some context,
and, at the point of publication of a new article, display those
blurbs in a list with a pre checked checkbo
If the article copy is stored in the db, and you've got sql to work
with, then at the
point of publication of a new article, it might be possible to narrow
the targets
with;
select id from articles where article_text like %valley forge%";
(or something like that).
Then you can do whatever yo
At 10:04 AM -0400 8/27/09, Randal Rust wrote:
In one of our applications, we have a need to apply inline links to
the text, and would like to figure out a way to do this dynamically. I
have looked for this high and low, but haven't been able to find what
I am looking for. Perhaps I am searching t
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> Personally, i think a spider/bot is the best bet, maintain a list of
> phrases/words that should point to links and add those in.
I am leaning towards thinking that is the best option. The other way
would be to simply provide the editor with
But you have to consider that chances are, the person entering the article
won't select all the possible keywords that could become links ahead of
time, so you'd end up with articles that don't have enough links.. but I
like the idea.
Personally, i think a spider/bot is the best bet, maintain a li
Glenn Powell wrote:
Ah. New article titles are based on phrases from pre-existing content.
I'll bet you could pre-create most of the links every time you write an
article. I mention Valley Forge, I think "there should be an article on
that some day", and so I create the link right then. When
Yea im good at those so if any one needs them you can ask me ;)
Thank You
Chuck Reeves
Cell: 631-374-0772
Email: chuck.ree...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Randal Rust wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Chuck Reeves
> wrote:
>
> > When you need to explain something to Lay pe
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM, John Campbell wrote:
> The way Wikipedia does this is by allowing robot editors. The bots go
> through the wikitext and fix things, and everyone can see the changes
> the bot made. A human can rollback the changes if the bot does
> something stupid.
That could w
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Chuck Reeves wrote:
> When you need to explain something to Lay people I find that its easier to
> try and equate it to something universal.
>
> If they are librarians, you can tell them that its like having a book shelf
> that is full and when a new book that come
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Hall, Leam wrote:
> Would it work to have key phrases tied to data stores? That way you could
> link to it and get all the articles on Valley Forge just by updating the
> datastore?
In the current version of the system, that is what we do. Users can
create a list
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Randal Rust wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Hall, Leam wrote:
>
>> Maybe a nightly or weekly rebuild? Depends on frequency of updates.
>
> Conceptually, that makes sense. It is certainly something to consider.
> However, these clients are typically librari
>
> Conceptually, that makes sense. It is certainly something to consider.
> However, these clients are typically librarians, historians and other
> public sector-type minds. I will have to figure out how to explain
> that to them in their language:)
When you need to explain something to Lay peop
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Glenn Powell wrote:
> Ah. New article titles are based on phrases from pre-existing content.
Yes. What usually happens in these projects is that a team of writers
cranks out roughly 300-600 articles on various subjects. After the
site launches, the core editorial
Would it work to have key phrases tied to data stores? That way you could link
to it and get all the articles on Valley Forge just by updating the datastore?
Leam
From: Glenn Powell
Sent: Thu 8/27/2009 2:50 PM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] Dynamically Add Links to Text
Ah. New
Ah. New article titles are based on phrases from pre-existing content.
On Aug 27, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Randal Rust wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Glenn Powell
wrote:
Maybe altering the existing articles is a one time process?
Unfortunately, no. These sites are encyclopedias, so whe
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Hall, Leam wrote:
> Maybe a nightly or weekly rebuild? Depends on frequency of updates.
Conceptually, that makes sense. It is certainly something to consider.
However, these clients are typically librarians, historians and other
public sector-type minds. I will ha
Maybe a nightly or weekly rebuild? Depends on frequency of updates.
Leam
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Glenn Powell wrote:
> Maybe altering the existing articles is a one time process?
Unfortunately, no. These sites are encyclopedias, so when you add
articles to it. For example, let's say I have an article about George
Washington, which I added on day one, and men
Maybe altering the existing articles is a one time process?
Just once to add the links, based on a hash of known article titles to
date.
For future articles;
I don't see how a pre-existing article could have made reference to an
article title that hasn't been published yet.
That would me
Randal Rust wrote:
The trick is that when a new article is added, they system needs to
automatically go back to all of the existing articles and run through
this process, which I don't like, because this won't be 100% accurate
in the editor's eyes. each updated article needs to be reviewed. I
als
I think the best way to tackle this would be look for titles of articles
when you posting a new article and just update the text when the editor is
going to save the article. Since you can store the title of articles as a
field in your database, you can then go and quickly find if the article
cont
In one of our applications, we have a need to apply inline links to
the text, and would like to figure out a way to do this dynamically. I
have looked for this high and low, but haven't been able to find what
I am looking for. Perhaps I am searching the wrong keywords.
What we have is a repository
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