Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>> i agree with you! >> my idea of how this should be rendered is: >> grade1: just like highway=service >> [...] >It's worth noting that tracktype is not a universally welcome tag - a >lot of people think having an arbitrary scale isn't very "OSM-like", >and that it's better to tag specific char

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Frank Sautter
Nick Whitelegg wrote: >>> i agree with you! my idea of how this should be rendered is: >>> grade1: just like highway=service [...] > >> It's worth noting that tracktype is not a universally welcome tag - >> a lot of people think having an arbitrary scale isn't very >> "OSM-like", and that it's be

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Alex S.
Andy Allan wrote: > Meh. It's on my list of things to do, but to be honest I don't see it > as very important. There's lots of things that the cycle map doesn't > render at all, and for one I see distinguishing onroad/offroad cycle > routes as more important than the difference between tracktypes;

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread spaetz
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:43:36AM -0700, Alex S. wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: > > Meh. It's on my list of things to do, but to be honest I don't see it > > as very important. There's lots of things that the cycle map doesn't > > render at all, and for one I see distinguishing onroad/offroad cycle >

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Alex S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: > > Meh. It's on my list of things to do, but to be honest I don't see it > > as very important. There's lots of things that the cycle map doesn't > > render at all, and for one I see distinguishing onroad/offr

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Umm... According to Map_Features, tracks are ALWAYS unpaved: > "unpaved/unsealed roads for agricultural use; gravel roads in the > forest etc." There, your problem's solved--just avoid all tracks. I have fixed Map_Features. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Sven Geggus
Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Umm... According to Map_Features, tracks are ALWAYS unpaved If this would be the case, what should be use for an agricultural serviceway (probably bad word by word translation of the german term "Landwirtschaftlicher Weg")? We have a whole lot of them her

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Martin Simon
Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2008 12:11:48 schrieb Frank Sautter: > Nick Whitelegg wrote: > >>> i agree with you! my idea of how this should be rendered is: > >>> grade1: just like highway=service [...] > >> > >> It's worth noting that tracktype is not a universally welcome tag - > >> a lot of people th

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Ben Laenen
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it looks like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" approved descriptions before having a discussion and a vote first... Greetings Ben On Thursd

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Open Street Map

2008-06-12 Thread SteveC
> anyone (in germany?) able to help this guy pls reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > } > } Do you mind if I forward this to the relevant list? I'm sure someone > } will help. > } > } On 5 Jun 2008, at 00:37, Alan & Carol Morris wrote: > } > } > Greetings Steve, > } > > } > I always save my track

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Alex Mauer
Sven Geggus wrote: > We have a whole lot of them here in germany and they are usually > paved or asphaltic ways, and they are different from unclassified, because > they are usually narrow and have access for tractors and bykes only. > > They are simular to a highway=service, which I tended to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map > features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it > looks like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" approved > descriptions before having a discussion and a vote first... Map Features

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Ben Laenen schrieb: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it looks like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" approved descriptions before having a discussion and a vote first... Most

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map >> features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it looks >> like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" approv

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Karl Newman schrieb: So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since that's "how it's used", I'm going to change Map Features to reflect that. Okay, that's a bit extreme, but really, care should be tak

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should > call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since that's > "how it's used", I'm going to change Map Features to reflect that. Okay, > that's a bit extreme, but really, care should be taken when cha

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Christoph Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should > > call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since > that's > > "how it's used", I'm going to change Map Feature

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Dirk-Lüder Kreie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Newman schrieb: > > So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should >> call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since >> that's >> "how it's used", I'm going to cha

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > It also shouldn't play host to graffiti. well, it's wiki so you can revert it. Some call it edit war, though :-) . Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > What's the threshold for "widespread use"? IMHO map features should one day be replaced by a page fed by regular tagwatch outputs, enriched by manual comments on the tags. Mappers then would see what other mappers use most. Just my two cents, ce ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Karl Newman schrieb: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Christoph Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > of course "map features" defines a kind of lingua franca for all mappers. But any language is subject to change. It's not a bible. It also shouldn't play host to graffiti. Funny that you thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik Tilecache Memory Error (Myanmar Cyclone Relief)

2008-06-12 Thread OJ W
Yes, it was always designed for use with openlayers tiles Thanks to Sebastian, who fixed the slippy.html today to display pyrender tiles (typically pyrender is run as its own application, and it starts serving tiles on http://localhost:1280/layer/z/x/y.png ) http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applicati

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > What if I get a bunch of other nutters to help me? :-D What's the > threshold for "widespread use"? You could hold a vote on that ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] RFC: emergency_access_point

2008-06-12 Thread wer-ist-roger
Hi everyone! There is a new RFC which you can find here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Emergency_access_point I like to open a discussion about this tag and hope for approval (hoping this is the right procedure how to enter a RFC since I'm new to the osm-talk mailin

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 12 June 2008 16:44:04 Sven Geggus wrote: > We have a whole lot of them here in germany and they are usually > paved or asphaltic ways, and they are different from unclassified, because > they are usually narrow and have access for tractors and bykes only. If it is wide enough to be acc

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > If there is some legal reason for it to be only accessible by bikes and > tractors, then you'll need to use access restrictions > (access=no;agriculture=yes;bicycle=yes;foot=yes) anyway, as there is nothing > that says normal cars are not allowed to use tracks of grade1 I don't know if t

[OSM-talk] New template for Proposed features

2008-06-12 Thread Nicholas Vetrovec
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Template:Proposal_Page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposal_Page_test___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New template for Proposed features

2008-06-12 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/6/13 Nicholas Vetrovec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Template:Proposal_Page > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposal_Page_test looks good - certainly saves time, and hopefully incites people to include all the information they can - some proposals

[OSM-talk] golf

2008-06-12 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I have added some general comments to the discussion on golf here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:Proposed_features/ Golf_course#General_comments I would appreciate feedback on this. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.i

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread spaetz
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 05:11:18PM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map > features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it > looks like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" approved > descriptions bef

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread spaetz
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:34:06AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: > So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should > call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since that's > "how it's used", I'm going to change Map Features to reflect that. Okay, > that's

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Karl Newman
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:18 PM, spaetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:34:06AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: > > > So now I decide that since I drive really fast down my driveway, I should > > call it highway=motorway and start tagging driveways that way. Since > that's > > "

[OSM-talk] M(')appare Verona - mapping the city centre in Verona - June 15 2008 -

2008-06-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All, 1) On Sunday we will have a team of Italian OSM activistis, together with GFOSS.it members and AGA Verona members in the old city centre of Verona. Romeo is still negotiating with Juliet to check if he will be allowed to join the crew ;) If you happen to be close by (e.g. west side of th

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Jo
spaetz schreef: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 05:11:18PM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tag:highway=track and the map >> features mentioned track is only for unpaved/unsealed roads. To me it >> looks like it was approved like that, so please don't "fix" appro

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Jo
Cartinus schreef: > On Thursday 12 June 2008 16:44:04 Sven Geggus wrote: > >> We have a whole lot of them here in germany and they are usually >> paved or asphaltic ways, and they are different from unclassified, because >> they are usually narrow and have access for tractors and bykes only. >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-12 Thread Jo
Sven Geggus schreef: > Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Umm... According to Map_Features, tracks are ALWAYS unpaved >> > > If this would be the case, what should be use for an agricultural serviceway > (probably bad word by word translation of the german term > "Landwirtschaftl