Re: [OSM-talk] Chinese font problem

2008-07-29 Thread D Tucny
2008/7/30 Louis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi everybody: > I saw city names in China and Japan are not little squares anymore. > > Nice job. > > But some name tags are still little squares, like > http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/218682/114077.png and > http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/14/14537/6

[OSM-talk] Chinese font problem

2008-07-29 Thread Louis Liu
Hi everybody: I saw city names in China and Japan are not little squares anymore. Nice job. But some name tags are still little squares, like http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/218682/114077.png and http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/14/14537/6464.png. Is it font problem? Cheers. -

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Brett Henderson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >With a readymade image containing an OSM rendering toolchain - Mapnik, > >osm2pgsql and TileCache - plus some instructions on the wiki, we'd > >have a "roll your own cartography kit". A WYSIWYG sty

[OSM-talk] Poster Things (part 2)

2008-07-29 Thread Henk Hoff
I got the cc from Martijn, which reminded me to subscribe to the talk-list. Anyhow, the "poster things". I've talked with the designer who actually made them, and he can give me the design with which you all could make your own posters. I'm trying to persuade him to fix the transparancy problem

Re: [OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the rather large thread "Actually using OpenStreetMap and the > usability of > > the current maps" I got to understand a few things that I didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the rather large thread "Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of > the current maps" I got to understand a few things that I didn't grasp > before. > > So to make a long story short, I have decided to check the v

Re: [OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Jon Burgess
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 20:57 +0200, Inge Wallin wrote: > In the rather large thread "Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of > the current maps" I got to understand a few things that I didn't grasp > before. > > So to make a long story short, I have decided to check the viability of >

Re: [OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Jason Reid
Inge Wallin wrote: > In the rather large thread "Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of > the current maps" I got to understand a few things that I didn't grasp > before. > > So to make a long story short, I have decided to check the viability of > setting up a Swedish tile server + s

Re: [OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Freek
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Inge Wallin wrote: > So to make a long story short, I have decided to check the viability of > setting up a Swedish tile server + slippy map and some other services. To > do that I am applying for some money from the Swedish Internet Society that > has grants for such thing

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Thorsten Feles
Jochen Topf schrieb: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: >> To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the >> house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the >> scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node

[OSM-talk] A Swedish national server for OSM

2008-07-29 Thread Inge Wallin
In the rather large thread "Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps" I got to understand a few things that I didn't grasp before. So to make a long story short, I have decided to check the viability of setting up a Swedish tile server + slippy map and some other servi

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Newman wrote: > >Sent: 29 July 2008 6:48 PM > >To: Jochen Topf > >Cc: talk > >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion > > > >On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf <[EM

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Karl Newman wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 6:48 PM >To: Jochen Topf >Cc: talk >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion > >On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: > > To b

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Karl Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 6:17 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >Cc: Jan-Benedict Glaw; Frederik Ramm; talk >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion > >On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ><[EMAIL PROT

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: > > To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of > the > > house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with > t

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi down

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
It will be down for a bit. Keep an eye on the wiki for updates Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aurelien Jacobs >Sent: 29 July 2008 6:20 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi down > >Hi, > >It see

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi down

2008-07-29 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Aurelien Jacobs wrote: > Hi, > > It seems osmxapi is down: > > $ wget > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[place=*][code_departement=54] > Warning: wildcards not supported in HTTP. > --2008-07-29 19:17:34-- > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[place=*][cod

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: > To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the > house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the > scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node with the way (what's a > h

[OSM-talk] Osmxapi down

2008-07-29 Thread Aurelien Jacobs
Hi, It seems osmxapi is down: $ wget http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[place=*][code_departement=54] Warning: wildcards not supported in HTTP. --2008-07-29 19:17:34-- http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/node[place=*][code_departement=54] Resolving osmxapi.hyper

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The reason I don't like ideas like this is that the data you are adding to > the way (or as Frederik pointed out possibly also the intersections) is not > actually anything to do with the physical fe

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Foundation - Notice of Annual General Meeting and Nominations open for Board

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy Robinson wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 4:39 PM >To: 'talk' >Subject: OpenStreetMap Foundation - Notice of Annual General Meeting and >Nominations open for Board > >To all members of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, > >NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the 2nd Annual General Meeting of the >OpenStreetMap F

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Foundation - Notice of Annual General Meeting and Nominations open for Board

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
To all members of the OpenStreetMap Foundation, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the 2nd Annual General Meeting of the OpenStreetMap Foundation will be held at the offices of Cloudmade Ltd, Suite 1.06 Enterprise House, 1/2 Hatfields, London, SE1 9PG, UK. on Saturday 30 August at 14.00 BST. OSMF AGM Ag

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links

2008-07-29 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Stefan Neufeind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Trying to wget the data from console >> >> $ wget "http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D"; >> >> after some waiting actually results in >> >> Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascie

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Names! There are far too few names on the map, especially on low zoom >> levels. It's difficult to get a feeling for where you are and

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Names! There are far too few names on the map, especially on low zoom > levels. It's difficult to get a feeling for where you are and orient yourself > on the map if you cannot find names on the map. The commercial maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Stefan Neufeind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to wget the data from console > > $ wget "http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D"; > > after some waiting actually results in > > Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80...

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links

2008-07-29 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Robert Vollmert wrote: > On Jul 29, 2008, at 14:25, Stefan Neufeind wrote: >> in tagwatch, e.g. at >> http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html >> I see entries that link to adresses like >> http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D >> >> That page takes quite a while

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMoonMap

2008-07-29 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
SteveC schrieb: "This beacon system will use radio frequency, microwave, ultrasonic or visible light sources to transmit the relative positioning between any object and known active surface beacon reference points." Good luck using ultrasonic on the moon. Rock actually works quite well as

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Jul 29, 2008, at 14:25, Stefan Neufeind wrote: > in tagwatch, e.g. at > http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html > I see entries that link to adresses like > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D > > That page takes quite a while to load but then returns with

[OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links

2008-07-29 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi, in tagwatch, e.g. at http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html I see entries that link to adresses like http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D That page takes quite a while to load but then returns with an empty document. Is that a timeout in the api or so?

Re: [OSM-talk] Why OpenStreetMap is not Wikipedia

2008-07-29 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm wrote: | Hi, | | the similarities between OSM and Wikipedia are many, and easily | spotted. In fact, we owe a lot of our success to Wikipedia as a "trail | blazer" - if I tell someone "we're like a Wikipedia for maps", that | saves me

[OSM-talk] radio-beacons

2008-07-29 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
I'm going to add all the italians VOR and NDB. They are radio beacons for aeronautical navigation. I think to use man_made=beacon tag adding some additional information: according to tagwatch [

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 11:33 AM >To: Frederik Ramm >Cc: talk >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion > >On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >> Tagging house numbers onto intersections or ways is just a lame >> work

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability ofthecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Inge Wallin wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 9:30 AM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability >ofthecurrent maps snip >Well, when I was talking about "users", I actually meant those that only >use >the finished map. The 50,000 users that actual

[OSM-talk] Bury St Edmunds mapping party

2008-07-29 Thread David Earl
For those on this list not on talk-gb, just a brief mention that there will be a Bury St Edmunds (Suffolk, England) mapping party on Saturday 16 August. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/BuryStEdmunds/MappingParty2008-08 David ___ talk mail

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tagging house numbers onto intersections or ways is just a lame > workaround employed by many existing data sets because they can't > model every single house. I have absolutely zero doubt that sooner or > later, OS

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I once had a look at the Karlsruhe Schema and i found it "ugly" from a > technical point of view. In my world one wants explicit links between > two objects but the proposal simply draws points or polygons "next to" > something which is not a explicit link. That's correct. Many people seem

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 07:12:54PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion > > Hi, > > > I added one suggestion to the "House Numbers" page. It's the eighth one. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers > > I f

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Oliver Lewis
On 7/29/08, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] OSM _is_ expressly here to encourage an ecosystem. It's here to > collect the data and then get people to do funky things with it. Speaking as a relatively new contributor to the project, I think this is absolutely fundamental. I d

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Henry Loenwind wrote: > That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people > that are interested in using the data are not really welcome very much. Nonono. And here's another difference between OSM and Wikipedia. OSM _is_ expressly here to encourage an ecosystem. It's here

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread spaetz
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:30:39AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] chaps they must have been, since *not* having a > benevolent > dictator is one of the key differentiation factors between [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and > Mapnik (the other being the - usually - lower turnaround

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >> Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] chaps they must have been, since *not* having a >> benevolent >> dictator is one of the key differentiation factors between [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> and >> Mapnik (the other being the - usually - lower turnaround times in [EMAIL >> PROTECTED] >> but the Mapnik ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Lennard voor den Dag
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] chaps they must have been, since *not* having a > benevolent > dictator is one of the key differentiation factors between [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and > Mapnik (the other being the - usually - lower turnaround times in [EMAIL > PROTECTED] > but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Henry Loenwind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone wrote: >> let's keep >> the focus on filling up the database > >> I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or >> better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere! > > That sums it up

Re: [OSM-talk] request for osm-ph mailing list

2008-07-29 Thread maning sambale
Hi, OSM Philippine now has a mailinglist: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-ph For those interested in the discussion about OSM in the Philippines, please jinus there. Salamat! maning On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM, maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Inge Wallin
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:15:03 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Inge Wallin wrote: > >Sent: 28 July 2008 10:45 AM > >To: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of > >thecurrent maps > > > >This is a mail that I have been wanting to se

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Well, there was a discussion on IRC today among some of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > chaps > along the lines of "what we really need is a benevolent dictator, like > the Mapnik stylesheet has". Strange [EMAIL PROTECTED] chaps they must have been, since *not* having a benevolent dictator i

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects

2008-07-29 Thread David Earl
On 29/07/2008 09:21, Tom Chance wrote: > What a lot of effort! Why bother? I agree. In fact more than that, I think it would be damaging. For most people, the idea of "abstract" mapping data is a hard concept to grasp. The map renderings (in practice Mapnik, as I doubt most non-participants eve

Re: [OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Chance
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from host-82-44-126-103.static.telewest.net [82.44.126.103] with HTTP/1.1 (POST); Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:21:02 +0100 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.1-rc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Conte

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Steve, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:47:49 +0100, Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just noticed that this weekend it is exactly a year since I submitted my > first mapnik style patch. As someone who has run off with the OSM stylesheet and spent a lot of time making a slightly different ver

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: >Sent: 29 July 2008 12:30 AM >To: Talk Openstreetmap >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone > >Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > >> Steve, you and everyone else whose worked hard on the cartography >> aspects of >> the Mapnik layer deserve a big pat on the back. But you

Re: [OSM-talk] request for osm-ph mailing list

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where do I request for a creation of OSM Philippines mailing list? I can sort it out. Are you going to be the list owner? Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap - how to get vector data

2008-07-29 Thread spaetz
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:07:11PM +0200, Igor Brejc wrote: > The problem is fetching the data - the only viable option I see is using > OSMXAPI, but its server is overwhelmed and will limit the download size > in the future (from what I read on this list). Using planet dumps seems > to me a bit

[OSM-talk] Split into "map" and "data" projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Henry Loenwind
Someone wrote: > let's keep > the focus on filling up the database > I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or > better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere! That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people that are interested in usi

[OSM-talk] request for osm-ph mailing list

2008-07-29 Thread maning sambale
Hi, Where do I request for a creation of OSM Philippines mailing list? cheers, maning -- |-|--| | __.-._ |"Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great." -Yoda | | '-._"7' |"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden|

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Jul 29, 2008, at 00:40, Karl Newman wrote: > Don't overestimate the usage of the current data scheme, though. The > Germans are prolific mappers, but I would be surprised if there are > even a few thousand addresses entered in the current format, if that. According to tagwatch, around 2