Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Removal of CC-SA-BY licensed data from OSM after ODbL takes effect

Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Finally, in the license FAQ Steve Coast wrote "We may take the view > that those who have made small contributions, but cannot be contacted, > would relicence their data under the new licence."[3]. > > Only the copyright holder can grant you permission to dist

Re: [OSM-talk] Cannot get osm2pgsql to run

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 00:33 +0100, Nop wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up a mapnik instance, but I cannot get osm2pgsql to > run. I have followed the instructions on > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik/PostGIS but they are rather > sketchy so I need some pointer on where the prob

[OSM-talk] Cannot get osm2pgsql to run

Hello! I am trying to set up a mapnik instance, but I cannot get osm2pgsql to run. I have followed the instructions on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik/PostGIS but they are rather sketchy so I need some pointer on where the problem is. I have created a DB gis. First I got an error "m

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

(to the list also) On Dec 9, 2008, at 22:29, Scott Atwood wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote: > > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass > > straight through Finland and start s

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote: > > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass > > straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can't > > find it using Mapnik or Potlatch. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote: > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass > straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can’t > find it using Mapnik or Potlatch. http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27611977 Cheers Robert ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

Looking at the polygon again someone has gone to the trouble of adding nodes on the long straight bits with a notes tag: “Redundant node, just inserted so [EMAIL PROTECTED] has one for each tile” e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=73.999

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

I don’t know Norwegian, but the best translation of Gråsonen that I can come up with is “grey zone”. Ed From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Tucny Sent: 09 December 2008 18:39 To: Peter Miller Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

The polygon has boundary tags on it... Way: 28592616 - *admin_level*: 2 - *created_by*: Potlatch 0.10f - *name*: Gråsonen - *boundary*: administrative I've not had much luck finding the other trail... A combination of it have not visible end points or nodes and the fact it is so close

Re: [OSM-talk] Are there any ways with street number ranges in the OSM database?

Hi Jochen, Christoph, and Maarten, Thanks for the detailed and complete discussion of the current state of house number addressing in OSM, it was very useful. Given the related, and very active, "addressing" thread, it sounds like several issues need to be ironed out before there is a "final" OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

I have just updated the planet image on Flickr today (with last night's planet cut). Nearly all the Santa trails are now gone. There is still one heading north from Finland and also a dubious polygon in the same area which could do with investigation! It would be great if someone could take a look

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On 8 Dec 2008, at 23:51, Jochen Topf wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 03:37:00PM -0800, SteveC wrote: >> On 8 Dec 2008, at 13:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> SteveC wrote: "nodes on a way but not a relation" schema needs to have addr:street=foo on the addressing way ? >>> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

Bernhard Zwischenbrugger schrieb: > Hi > > Just an other slippy map: > http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/index.php > > Maybe you like the zoom. Yes, it feels cool, i like it :-) What about adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] as another layer? And maybe the cyclemap too. Thanks Jonas

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map

2008/12/10 Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "D Tucny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2008/12/9 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > >> am I right in thinking that you're not restricting it so that you can > >>> only view at specific zoom factors but you can also drag

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map

"D Tucny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2008/12/9 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> am I right in thinking that you're not restricting it so that you can >>> only view at specific zoom factors but you can also drag the tiles when >>> they're part-way between zooms? >>> >> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

Hi restricting it so that you can only view at specific zoom factors but you can also drag the tiles when they're part-way between zooms? Now it snaps to a "good" zoom level. http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/ Bernhard PS: wheelmouse for safari and chrome does not wo

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where a block had a single entrance equipped with doorbell/entry > phone/postboxes I added the wonderful tag addr:flats=1-10 to the > building. ie: I treated it as a black box, and merely stated what > numbers were inside. Oft

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008/12/9 Douglas Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/12/8 SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Some notes on using Karlsruhe schema... >> >> "nodes on a way but not a relation" schema needs to have >> addr:street=foo on the addressing way ? >> >> addr:housename needs to be added, or addr:housenumber n

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing - Tower blocks

2008/12/9 Douglas Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2008/12/8 SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> I'd like to throw a quick question in here, now that this is being > discussed, and people with a much better idea of tagging and related issues > are reviewing the thread :) > > I live in an area of Londo

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008/12/8 SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some notes on using Karlsruhe schema... > > "nodes on a way but not a relation" schema needs to have > addr:street=foo on the addressing way ? > > addr:housename needs to be added, or addr:housenumber needs to be > explicit that it can be a name, or made a mo

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

> i prefer using relations, but clearly both methods have merits. > how > hard is it to support both? Having read this discussion I know of a location locally where both methods are probably required. There is a road called "New Way" where the houses on one side actually have postal addresses of "

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Christoph Eckert wrote: > Hi, > > > But meanwhile - mostly because it is so easy to do in JOSM - many > > people simply tag the whole shebang (addr:country, addr:town, > > addr:post_code, addr:street, addr:house_number) onto every house > > node. > > though I attended t

[OSM-talk] 3D style navigation ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 03:00:04PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Matt Amos wrote: > > exactly - so why say that the nearest road with a particular name is > > the addressable road? better to indicate exactly which way is the > > addressing element and leave routing for the "via" elements. > > No,

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Amos wrote: >> except when it doesn't - e.g: misspelled streets, deleted "in use" >> streets, etc... > > A little redundancy doesn't hurt - on the contrary, it makes spotting > mistakes easier. and prevention is better

Re: [OSM-talk] A large part of London Missing?

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Ed Loach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone work out how to find out what possible UTF8 errors there > might be? Or would you be able to tell some other way if this were > the problem? You should try using decode("UTF-8") instead of decode("utf8") in your check

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Hi, Matt Amos wrote: > exactly - so why say that the nearest road with a particular name is > the addressable road? better to indicate exactly which way is the > addressing element and leave routing for the "via" elements. No, not "indicate which way is the addressing element" (because the objec

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Frederik Ramm wrote: >Sent: 09 December 2008 1:37 PM >To: Matt Amos >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] addressing > >Hi, > >Matt Amos wrote: >> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's >> relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Amos wrote: >> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's >> relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" >> relations? > > In my eyes an address is not a relation. It com

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Hi, Matt Amos wrote: > except when it doesn't - e.g: misspelled streets, deleted "in use" > streets, etc... A little redundancy doesn't hurt - on the contrary, it makes spotting mistakes easier. And about deleted "in use" streets: If a house has a certain address then it has that address, even

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Hi, Matt Amos wrote: > sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's > relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" > relations? In my eyes an address is not a relation. It comes close, but a house *can* have an address that has nothing to do with the

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008/12/9 Elena of Valhalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's >>> relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" >>> relations? >> Because editor

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

> > addr:street=Foo on an addressable element is basically the same thing > as route=LCN:4 on a way. and i thought it was well understood why > using this method for routes is A Bad Idea, even if it is easier. Actually that has far more to do with having bus 37, bus 337, bus 270, bus 44, bus N44,

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map

2008/12/9 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > am I right in thinking that you're not restricting it so that you can >> only view at specific zoom factors but you can also drag the tiles when >> they're part-way between zooms? >> > > That's the big problem. > Google Maps always snap

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's >> relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" >> relations? > > Because editor support is almost non-existent, and exceptionally co

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's >> relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" >> relations? > Because editor support is almost non-existent, and exceptionally conf

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Dave Stubbs wrote: > I like the clean relation data model, but find the addr:street > thing much easier at the moment. > Maybe I'll add an addressing button (sorry, I meant obscure > keypress :-P) to Potlatch sometime then there'll be no excuses left. When this accursed API 0.6 is out of the wa

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > Congratulations on constructing something that is likely to break as soon as > the first inexperienced mapper touches it ;-) it would have been perfectly > ok to just add nodes for the individual houses and tag them

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

> sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's > relations with name-based references, when we already have "proper" > relations? Because editor support is almost non-existent, and exceptionally confusing :-) The advantage of using addr:street is that it does just work. Th

[OSM-talk] My slippy map

Hi yes it's smooth :) but you disabled the useful "shift + clic" for rapid zooming a zone... That's implemented now: http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/ (but only tested with firefox 2.0) I'm not sure he "disabled" it as much as "hasn't got around to implementing it".

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> An even better alternative would probably be to add the collected >> street relation to the associatedStreet one, but I'm not sure there is >> support for relations in relations in the api / editors > > Still my advice is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Another use case for the license

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Joseph Gentle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If Microsoft / Mapquest / Google / whoever ever decide to join the > community, would our new open data license let them use any of our > data? Nothing in the new licence prevents corporations from using OSM data. > What

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

SteveC wrote: > needs a simple "how to do addressing in potlatch" video a-la > the old ones I did, as if you ignore relations it is essentially trivial I'll be committing some new presets next week with all the fields ready and waiting. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://w

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: > Just an other slippy map: > http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/index.php > > Maybe you like the zoom. The thing I _really_ like is that it doesn't aggressively preload five thousand miles round the edge every time, unlike OpenLayers (or, more

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

2008/12/9 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi > > Just an other slippy map: > http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/index.php > > Maybe you like the zoom. > I like the smooth zoom... Unfortunately mouse wheel zooming doesn't appear to be working for me in Google Chro

[OSM-legal-talk] Another use case for the license

Hi guys. I don't know if its too late for this but: If Microsoft / Mapquest / Google / whoever ever decide to join the community, would our new open data license let them use any of our data? What / how much would we require them to share back? -J ___

Re: [OSM-talk] POI layer for Tiles at home

> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Simon Ward wrote: > > or a layer that allows you to select what POIs to display (although a > > long list of POIs might be a little unwieldy). > > This map already exists: > http://www.lenz-online.de/cgi-bin/osm/osmpoinit.pl/ That solution is painfully slow and

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

Hi, > that sounds elegant and solves the problem I had yesterday when trying > to add some street numbers to a street made of many small ways that > branch from the main one, i.e. something like this: > > | | > | | | > ---+--++-+-- > | > > there is now at least on

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

On 9 Dec 2008, at 09:18, Steven Le Roux wrote: > 2008/12/8 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi >> >> Just an other slippy map: >> http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/index.php >> >> Maybe you like the zoom. > > yes it's smooth :) but you disabled the useful "shif

Re: [OSM-talk] My slippy map - call for testing

2008/12/8 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi > > Just an other slippy map: > http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ws2008/oomap4/index.php > > Maybe you like the zoom. yes it's smooth :) but you disabled the useful "shift + clic" for rapid zooming a zone... > > Bernhard > ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Something wrong with some postcode areas?

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 09:11:40AM +0100, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: > Elena of Valhalla schrieb: > > Is there something wrong with some postcode areas between France and > > Germany? > > > > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresses&lon=5.81038&lat=44.04829&zoom=6 > > > > this is the first ti

Re: [OSM-talk] Something wrong with some postcode areas?

Elena of Valhalla schrieb: > Is there something wrong with some postcode areas between France and Germany? > > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresses&lon=5.81038&lat=44.04829&zoom=6 > > this is the first time i've opened the OSM inspector, so I have no > clue what could be going on That'