Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Liz wrote: > I expect some equally picky person to tell me that "this is > not the JOSM talk It's the talk-au list ;) > list" but before annoying everyone on that list, I thought > that which is the > preferred tag should be decided. JOSM has numerous tags that aren't

[OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-01 Thread Liz
This is a picky little point. Tagging: amenity=doctor remains a proposed feature http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Doctor Proposed features/GP Surgery (tagged as amenity=doctors), which is invalid according to Rejected features. and apparently abandoned http://wiki.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread Stefan Baebler
Cool! For SEO reasons it could be really nice if this title would be present in html tag already while the html is being sent to the client...and not delaying the initial response at the same time :) Stefan On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > OJ W googlemail.com> writes: > >>Imagi

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Liz wrote: > A long standing convention on a printed Australian map is > that a road which is > unsealed is drawn with a broken line of the same colour and > width as the road > would have if it was sealed. That is to do with rendering, not how the data is stored, and ther

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-08-01 Thread Andrew Ayre
Jon Burgess wrote: > On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:58 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: >>> As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another >> instance >>> of nodes missing from the minutely diffs. This is a known issue but >> I'm >>> not sure if we have a trac ticket for it. I have put more detai

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread Dave G
Syl many thanks for you proposal, I have been thinking about this for a while but I wasn't sure how to do this Also I notice the current tag doesn't display a symbol on the standard OSM Mapnik map, but does show up on OpenCycleMap & Osmarender - can we correct this with the proposed feature I wi

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread sylvain letuffe
Le dimanche 2 août 2009 02:11, Dave G a écrit : > ... sorry to double post but it appears I didn't send this to the list :-) sorry to re-double post, I sent my answer to you only > Lean_to: > 1. the fireplace tag be option as many of NZ Lean_to have fireplaces > 2. option mattresses tag (as above)

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread Dave G
... sorry to double post but it appears I didn't send this to the list :-) 2009/8/2 Dave G <9gerk...@gmail.com> > Syl & Craig > > Further to the previous discussion > > nearly all back-country huts in NZ are unlocked fees are usually paid to > stay in them > either to Dept. of Conservation the go

[OSM-talk] Fwd: RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread Dave G
... sorry to double post but it appears I didn't send this to the list :-) -- Forwarded message -- From: Dave G <9gerk...@gmail.com> Date: 2009/8/2 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings To: sylvain letuffe Sylvain I agree with your p

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wildern ess shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread sylvain letuffe
> Though reading through that page, and the Wikipedia articles, a > wilderness hut and a bothy seem to be much the same thing. Good point. In previous discussions on shelter, the name "bothy" came a few times. In lack of evidence and knowledge, I proposed it separated from wilderness_hut. (Read

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 01/08/2009 17:21, sylvain letuffe wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to propose this set of tags : > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wilderness_mountain_buildings > (composed of different proposal) to classify buildings open to the public in > isolated areas. > > It tries to offici

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Liz
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, James Stewart wrote: > Classifying roads in central asia, it is easier, and makes more sense > in my opinion to use the highway ref in the administrative sense. Some > countries or regions have 5 or 6 main roads with are the national > trunk system. In places they are almo

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline

2009-08-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, David Groom wrote: >>> FWIW, I'm trying to get it working again (it was pointed out to me a >>> few days ago that hypercube was back online) however I keep running >>> into problems with corrupted planet dumps and daily diffs. I hope to >>> have it working again soo

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/1 Christiaan Welvaart : On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Why would who maintains a road directly determine its administrative classification? If a municipality decides that some road is a motorway, we better tag it as such. In

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread Ed Avis
OJ W googlemail.com> writes: >Imagine if it said "OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom" instead... > >http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/TitlebarDemo/?zoom=11&lat=51.76&lon=-1.282 You mean instead of "OpenSteetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom"? Yes that would be cool! Spelling apart, this

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-08-01 Thread Matthias Versen
Roland Olbricht wrote: > Both queries are responded from cache, but from different times. While the > data of the former is from 2009-07-31 15h00 UTC, the latter is from > 2009-08-01 03h00 UTC. In the meantime, somebody has edited holes into the > border of Nordrhein-Westfalen. Based on the data o

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-08-01 Thread Matthias Versen
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: >> I fixed a "bug" in your relation, 2 not connected relation-members with >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1999106 >> >> I hope that it will fix the issue. > > It did - thanks a lot. Out of curiousity, how did you figure out where the > error was? I open

[OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

2009-08-01 Thread sylvain letuffe
Hi, I'd like to propose this set of tags : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/wilderness_mountain_buildings (composed of different proposal) to classify buildings open to the public in isolated areas. It tries to officialise the rather well used alpine_hut and tries to clear

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread James Stewart
Classifying roads in central asia, it is easier, and makes more sense in my opinion to use the highway ref in the administrative sense. Some countries or regions have 5 or 6 main roads with are the national trunk system. In places they are almost reduced to tracks through the mountains, thr

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Maritime borders

2009-08-01 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) < skipp...@gimnechiske.org> wrote: > Ok, I am revisiting this. Both me and Gustav F (original writes of the > proposal) was not satisfied with the outcome of the last vote (about 50/50), > so I have rewritten the proposal based on many of

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 OJ W : > Most of the slippy-maps I've seen so far have "OpenStreetMap" or > similar as the document title.   While nicely minimalist, it doesn't > always describe what you're looking at on screen. > > Imagine if it said "OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom" instead... > > http://dev.

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-08-01 Thread Roland Olbricht
> Something that would also be very cool would be if the script told you > all polygons or multipolygons you're in regardless of whether they are > a relation or normal polygon, and you could filter the result for > country boundaries or other type of areas. It could for example tell > you you're

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > seems as if you got me completely wrong. The administrative > classification _IS_ about who maintains the road (at least in Germany > and Italy). While BAB (Bundesautobahn / motorway) and Bundestraße > (federal road) are maintained by the federal administration, > Lands

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > OK, but actually this is a navit bug then, because I hope > we all agree > that a tertiary road should be prefered to a residential > road in Yes it was a bug and I filed a bug about it in their bug tracker. > routing. Still I encourage you to c

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 John Smith : > > --- On Sat, 1/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> Which are those cases? Maybe the tertiary was not >> connected? Did you >> check the map data in the area? Usually bad routing results >> come from >> bad map data ;-) > > Yup, the map data was correct, navit just did we

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Which are those cases? Maybe the tertiary was not > connected? Did you > check the map data in the area? Usually bad routing results > come from > bad map data ;-) Yup, the map data was correct, navit just did weird things and unclassified roads

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 Christiaan Welvaart : > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Why would who maintains a road directly determine its administrative > classification? If a municipality decides that some road is a motorway, we > better tag it as such. In The Netherlands some provinces maintain sh

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 John Smith : >> areas, that's why your aussie-way might produce slightly >> worse routing >> results (don't know, just an idea). > > The navit routing engine prefers residential to tertiary in some cases... So > not all poor routing is because we use unclassified for lower than > residen

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-08-01 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
Matthias Versen wrote: > Jonas Häggqvist wrote: >>> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=56.0366&lon=12.514 >> Okay, it no longer breaks - it just doesn't list the point as being in >> Helsingør (rel#184034). > > I fixed a "bug" in your relation, 2 not connected relation-members with

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 13:38, OJ W wrote: > Imagine if it said "OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom" instead... > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/TitlebarDemo/?zoom=11&lat=51.76&lon=-1.282 Awesome! I really like all the stuff you have been coding lately (the business listings page, the b

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

2009-08-01 Thread Roland Olbricht
> There is really something broken, compare : > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.8478&lon=9.0282&lang= >de&mode=raw > > and > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry//?lat=51.894&lon=9.1909&mode= >raw Both queries are responded from cache, but from different times. While

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
OJ W wrote: > Most of the slippy-maps I've seen so far have "OpenStreetMap" or > similar as the document title. While nicely minimalist, it doesn't > always describe what you're looking at on screen. > > Imagine if it said "OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom" instead... > > http://dev.open

[OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-01 Thread OJ W
Most of the slippy-maps I've seen so far have "OpenStreetMap" or similar as the document title. While nicely minimalist, it doesn't always describe what you're looking at on screen. Imagine if it said "OpenStreetMap Oxfordshire, United Kingdom" instead... http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/Title

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-01 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: If the administrative class in your country coincides with the importance: fine. Nothing changes. Unfortunately this is neither in Italy nor in Germany the case: some roads have been downgraded / passed to a lower maintenance entity for administrat

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-08-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
Tom Hughes wrote: > Excuse me a minute while I find my magic wand... > > [ time passes ] > > ...found it! There you go, changeset processing is now > 100 times faster. > > Once you are done with your magic wand, do you mind lending it to me, I have a server to optimize. Emilie Laffray sign

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-08-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/08/09 01:08, Andrew Ayre wrote: >> How exactly is that supposed to help? Will this API have access to >> some magic accelerator technology that the current API doesn't use? > > It would help because people could upload large data sets as fast as > they can prepare them, then tweak any proble

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-08-01 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:58 -0700, Andrew Ayre wrote: > > As Shaun mentioned in another email, this seems to be another > instance > > of nodes missing from the minutely diffs. This is a known issue but > I'm > > not sure if we have a trac ticket for it. I have put more details > into > > the trac