Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > > while the Garmin ones can use OSM maps, the chips they are still using is > not > the newest and best > so it is harder to get a fix > My newest logger can actually get a fix inside my house, which was > constructed > with a near complete Faraday cage design, although a fix takes much longer

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > I know that some people like this tidy-points-function to work on > TIGER-Data, but I tell you: if the TIGER-Data is not good/precise, it > won't get better using this function ;-) bad data doesn't get worse either. for a lot of tiger data it can compact without any loss. And tiger is not a c

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:42:43 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to point attention to the potlatch-funtion tidy-points (similar > to JOSM simplify way). I encourage everybody not to use these > functions (at least not on data someone else entered) as it harms > severly the data

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Stefan de Konink wrote: > So if we take normal uranium it will only be alpha > radiation, > unless you eat, breath in dust etc. it is not harmful. (So > you know > exactly the reason why you shouldn't eat mushrooms in > East-Europe) What about Uranium mining areas? Australia

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:42:37 +0200 (CEST), Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static >> enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at a certain place, is there >> reason to believe that it will (i

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Roeland Douma wrote: > If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you > can use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know > a lot more about GPSes, which to buy, which to avoid. Also by searching on > the wiki you can find a

Re: [OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I'd like to start a discussion about which automated functionalities > we want to allow As long as the "automated functionalities" are initiated and controlled by human judgment, there is no need to limit them.

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static > enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at a certain place, is there > reason to believe that it will (in the absence of catastrophic events) > be more or less unchanged one mont

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Nic Roets wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Liz wrote: > > anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? > > a search of the wiki produced nothing so far > > > > > > *thinking* > > radioactivity=yes > > type=depleted_uranium > > Hi Liz, > > Many scientifi

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural worldmapping ...

2009-08-08 Thread Jason Cunningham
You cant confidently split trees into two groups, although Ordnance Survey have tried to. I believe in the future there will be a desire to give areas of woodland a tag that describes the type of woodland. But there is not rush and Evergreen, Deciduous and Mixed seem like a safe start Jason Cunnin

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Weait wrote: > I'm inclined to think that _actual_ _radiation_ _measurements_ are > interesting for the database. Guesses and suppositions; much less > interesting. Forgive my scientific ignorance, but are actual measurements even static enough - I mean, if I measure radiation X at

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural worldmapping ...

2009-08-08 Thread Jason Cunningham
Since I joined the OSM community to map an area of woodland I help manage, the use of "landuse=forest and natural=wood" has frustrated me. I had meant to raise the issue and to try and find out whether it was possible to improve these tags. I had actually planned to do this month so its a shame I

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Liz wrote: > anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? > a search of the wiki produced nothing so far How would we confirm "potential" radioactive sites? Is a decommissioned power plant or quarry potentially more radioactive than background? I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Liz wrote: > anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? > a search of the wiki produced nothing so far > > > *thinking* > radioactivity=yes > type=depleted_uranium Hi Liz, Many scientific labs and hospitals work with radio active materials wit

Re: [OSM-talk] Korea users

2009-08-08 Thread wynndale
> I've noticed a lot of new data on Korea. > Who is working on Korea and is there a separate email list? > > -- > Jeffrey John Martin > dogs...@gmail.com > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > > page of history EVEN WITH NO FOLLOW SET - having millions of indexed pages > does not necessarily increase presence, since they then ignore all the > duplication and treat it as attempts to distort the search results! > Not the only reason

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Austin Martin
Hello, OJ, Roeland, all On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Roeland Douma wrote: > If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you > can > use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know a > lot > more about GPSes, which to buy, which to avoid. Als

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Tobias Knerr
Mike Harris wrote: > And I still don't think turnstile is in any way a type of stile any more than > a stile is a type of gate. +1 The English word for turnstiles may end with "stile" for some reason I don't understand, but that doesn't mean it actually is a type of stile. barrier=turnstile is

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
Do not tag for the renderer! And I still don't think turnstile is in any way a type of stile any more than a stile is a type of gate. In fact, to be contentious, perhaps a turnstile is indeed a type of gate! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: John Smith [mailto:delta_foxt...@yahoo.c

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
I tend to disagree - the purpose, design and access aspects of a turnstile are normally very different from those of a stile. I think there is a good case for barrier=turnstile - even, if like many other barrier tags, it is not yet rendered. I do not regard a turnstile as a subtype of 'stile'.

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread Roeland Douma
First of all welcome! Always good to see new members of our ever growing community :) If you want to buy a GPS you might want to go with a Garmin since then you can use OSM maps, which is awesome. However there are people here that know a lot more about GPSes, which to buy, which to avoid. Also

Re: [OSM-talk] Introductions, and Icons?:

2009-08-08 Thread OJ W
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Austin Martin wrote: > Also, does OSM need a collective icon set, because by looking at this: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features. It seems like just a random > mishmash of icons, but maybe I'm wrong on this.. However if I'm right, I > would love to wo

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Giving a practical example of where currently pedestrian routing can't be >> carried out .. >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52986&lon=-0.44605&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF >> ( I lived in Hewens Road many years ago so know that area ) >> There is a fence down the m

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/8 Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) : > Is that really information interesting to the main map? I would rather > think that such highly special information could be available as a > openlayer overlay from other/independent sources. she was asking about tagging, not rendering. If the information is

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/8 Lester Caine : > YES there is a problem with 'can you cross the road', but that is something > that we simply do not YET have the information to map anyway. > I do not like the current way relations are implemented, but a link of some > sort combining two footways and a vehicleway into one

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
David Earl wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: >> David Earl wrote: >>> Lester Caine wrote: maning sambale wrote: > For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. >>> But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the >>> nam

[OSM-talk] to all potlatch and JOSM users - automatic simplification of geometry

2009-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Hi all, I want to point attention to the potlatch-funtion tidy-points (similar to JOSM simplify way). I encourage everybody not to use these functions (at least not on data someone else entered) as it harms severly the data. IMHO OSM is a project about drawing a collaborative map, not about comput

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread John Smith
> > Create a web page for every suburb, village and > hamlet. Create a link to > > the nearest city or town in bold (if there are > multiple cities at the > > same distance, create multiple links. Find all the > streets that are > > closest to this suburb and create links for each one. > The s

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-08-08 Thread Marc Schütz
> > no, it's not, it's about relative order in the db. > > Fair enough. In other words, at any node which is a junction of way > segments with different layers (whether the segments are part of the > same way or different ways), the physical implication is that the > slope of the way changes in the

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Mann
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:15 AM, wrote: > a previous poster (I've lost the thread as I'm using my webmail) > said that these could be assumed in residential areas. > > While residents here would like concrete paths provided in residential > areas they are not standard by any means. > That's why I

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
But is you use barrier=stile doesn't that imply that a pedestrian can (and is intended to) climb over it? Whereas a turnstile is most often something that you cannot climb over and access is usually (but perhaps not always) subject to a coin- or car-in-the-slot payment or validation? Mike Harris

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
If I understand rightly, this sounds like barrier=turnstile? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: John Smith [mailto:delta_foxt...@yahoo.com] Sent: 26 July 2009 16:16 To: osm-talk; vi...@thevikas.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier --- On Sun, 26/7/09, ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav)

Re: [OSM-talk] Building bridges: Kaliningrad mapping party?

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
... In exchange for a German contribution to London, Coventry, Plymouth, Liverpool ... ? Could we also put end_date= to the blame game and all learn from the mistakes of the past? Some of us are old enough to have been there at the time! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Laurence Penne

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural worldmapping ...

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Harris
Sympathy from a pom! Deciduous and evergreen are orthogonal. Coniferous is not even quite a sub-set of evergreen as there are a few deciduous conifers, e.g. larch. So OSM to use evergreen vs. deciduous and show its innate superiority to OS? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Liz [mailt

Re: [OSM-talk] Layer transitions

2009-08-08 Thread Richard Mann
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > In other words, at any node which is a junction of way > segments with different layers (whether the segments are part of the > same way or different ways), the physical implication is that the > slope of the way changes in the close vicinity o

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Nic Roets wrote: > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Earl > wrote: > > > i.e. everything with a name (or other identifier like ref), which is all > the useful ones. (Of course we already have URLs by number for every > node, way and relation in

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Earl wrote: > > i.e. everything with a name (or other identifier like ref), which is all > the useful ones. (Of course we already have URLs by number for every > node, way and relation in the system, though those aren't usually > exposed to search engines, an

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Lester Caine wrote: > David Earl wrote: >> Lester Caine wrote: >>> maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. >>> The simple answer has to be no. >> But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the >> namefinder index to make it av

Re: [OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:59:53 +1000, Liz wrote: > anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? > a search of the wiki produced nothing so far > > > *thinking* > radioactivity=yes > type=depleted_uranium > type=* > > > ___ > talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:20 PM 7/08/2009, OJ W wrote: >sidewalks in villages - what to do? > >http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.172898&lon=-0.524788&zoom=18 > >are they footpaths or are they road attributes? > >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Footway A corollary but very important issue

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:49:17 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > David Earl wrote: >> Lester Caine wrote: >>> maning sambale wrote: For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. >>> >>> The simple answer has to be no. >> >> But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am work

[OSM-talk] radioactivity

2009-08-08 Thread Liz
anyone got any ideas on tagging potential radioactive sites? a search of the wiki produced nothing so far *thinking* radioactivity=yes type=depleted_uranium type=* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ta

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
David Earl wrote: > Lester Caine wrote: >> maning sambale wrote: >>> For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. >> >> The simple answer has to be no. > > But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the > namefinder index to make it available through URLs (

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread David Earl
Lester Caine wrote: > maning sambale wrote: >> For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. > > The simple answer has to be no. But the complicated answer is yes: in that I am working on the namefinder index to make it available through URLs (and a set of gazetteer pages

Re: [OSM-talk] can search engines index osm data?

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
maning sambale wrote: > For example, I search a POI in "G" and it points me to an OSM node. The simple answer has to be no. Unless the search engine finds links to follow it's blind. It will not fill in search boxes just to see where it can get. However if there are pages USING links to POI then

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Lester Caine
Tom Chance wrote: > If a pavement/sidewalk deviates significantly, just add a footway / cycleway > / > other way branching off from the main highway as appropriate. If the > pavement/sidewalk is really quite separate, as in your Milton Keynes example > (http://osm.org/go/eu4qDpI_3--) then by al