Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Le 01/04/2010 22:45, Someoneelse a écrit : > Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> ... Surely you would create a boundary relation that >> *uses* the way representing the river to construct the boundary - rather >> than tracing the boundary line over the river line and having two >> separate ways? >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 08:45, Anthony wrote: > That's...interesting. Wouldn't any accurate description of the post codes > necessarily be a derivative of that official database? Not necessarily, it could be you have postcode information for various places and you are just generating an area that encomp

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 08:34, Frederik Ramm wrote: > We do have post code boundaries running together with administrative > boundaries sometimes, or running along a road. In these cases I'd expect > the post code area multipolygon to use these existing OSM features > (provided they exist). After creatin

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > There is a post code database that is officially maintained but it is not > free. > That's...interesting. Wouldn't any accurate description of the post codes necessarily be a derivative of that official database? If you're not sure of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, Anthony wrote: > What are the sources for the post code areas? How often are they > updated? How are they defined (by reference to houses, by reference to > geographical features, by lat/lon, something else)? Will this data be > integrated into other OSM data, or is it basically just a s

Re: [OSM-talk] ANNOUNCEMENT: maxspeed map

Am 29.03.2010 10:50, Florian Lohoff: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:54:46PM +0200, Claudius wrote: >> Why does your script not show the administrative hierarchy for Iran? >> http://maxspeed.osm.lab.rfc822.org/?zoom=7&lat=33.85578&lon=53.62819&layers=B0T&input=maxspeed > > The boundary does not build

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist wrote: >> Google, Waze and OSMF have part > Just to users of OSM from countries and cultures that do not know about > April the 1st, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools% > 27_Day > > I was born in Sweden. April fools is very popular

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Post code areas are tremendously useful in Germany because they are > commonly used as a cheap machine readable form of location descriptor > ("enter your post code to find the nearest band branch" etc). > That's a good use for post code cen

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi Frederik, What are the sources for the post code areas? How often are they updated? How are they defined (by reference to houses, by reference to geographical features, by lat/lon, something else)? Will this data be integrated into other OSM data, or is it basically just a separate layer? An

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 1 April 2010 10:55, Richard Weait wrote: > Wikipedia tells me that partial Canadian Postal codes are useful to > the post office[1]. In K1A 0B1 - K is the postal district, K1A is > the Forward Sortation Area and 0B1 is the Local Delivery Unit. Sounds > like "internal use only" to me. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and accessibility for walking impaired and people with temporary or permanent reduced mobility

Thanks, I reposted on the accessibility list. S On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Gregory wrote: > Check out the pages with this wiki category > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Disabilities > > There are a bunch of active interested people on the Accessibility mailing > list > http://

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Frederik Ramm wrote: > ... Surely you would create a boundary relation that > *uses* the way representing the river to construct the boundary - rather > than tracing the boundary line over the river line and having two > separate ways? Er, you might - but it doesn't seem to be universal practic

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, Someoneelse wrote: > Where boundaries are traced from out-of-copyright sources (e.g. NPE in > the UK), and they're actually following another feature (such as a > river) it would be extremely useful if the bit of the boundary that > follows the river could have a note added to say so. Then

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

John Smith wrote: > How many admin boundaries, except country boundaries, can be actually > verified with a GPS? > > Unless the boundary follows a geographical feature, such as a river, > these boundaries exist only on "paper" That's a very good point and it leads on to something that I've been

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and accessibility for walking impaired and people with temporary or permanent reduced mobility

Check out the pages with this wiki category http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Disabilities There are a bunch of active interested people on the Accessibility mailing list http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/accessibility

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and accessibility for walking impaired and people with temporary or permanent reduced mobility

On Thursday 01 April 2010 21:47:52 simone gadenz wrote: > as me and my colleagues to manage a participatory mapping process on > accessibility for wheelchairs and persons with reduced mobility. > [...] > Should any of you being interested in opening a discussion, giving > suggestions or advising,

[OSM-talk] OSM and accessibility for walking impaired and people with temporary or permanent reduced mobility

Hi all. as me and my colleagues to manage a participatory mapping process on accessibility for wheelchairs and persons with reduced mobility. It is set in a small town in the middle of Tuscany (around 2 citizens), We would be interested in sharing ideas, experiences, guidelines and best pra

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

John Smith wrote: > On 2 April 2010 03:59, Ian Dees wrote: >> Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If a >> "regular old mapper" can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border >> actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM? > > How many admin boundarie

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 03:59, Ian Dees wrote: > Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If a > "regular old mapper" can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border > actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM? How many admin boundaries, except country boundaries

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, Ian Dees wrote: > Do we really want to import these kinds of administrative boundaries? If > a "regular old mapper" can't go out with a GPS and verify that a border > actually exists, does this sort of data belong in OSM? A question that applies to all administrative boundaries, even most

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post > code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using > what tagging schema? > > I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary relations with >

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

> Brian Quinion wrote: >> boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code >> street_postal_code = 425253 > > I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have 5-digit > post codes, and the associated regions vary in size depending on how densely > populated

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Brian Quinion wrote: >> boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code >> street_postal_code = 425253 > > I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have > 5-digit post codes, and the associated regi

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

In the USA, also, postal codes in low-population areas tend to be much larger than those in densely-populated areas. In addition, we have both five-digit postal codes and nine-digit postal codes; the latter divide up the five-digit zones into sub-zones, typically containing only a few buildings

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 03:31, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Brian Quinion wrote: >> boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code >> street_postal_code = 425253 > > I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have >From what I understand, in the UK postcodes

Re: [OSM-talk] setting up a new PostGIS server, now MapNik doesn't render PostGis data any more

Hi, Torsten Mohr wrote: > so it is a problem of the settings? From googling it seems i need to > set extent to -180,-90, 180,89.99 ? Yes, something like that. > Do i also need to change the SRS? At the moment it is set to: > > +proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, Brian Quinion wrote: > boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code > street_postal_code = 425253 I'm having difficulties in grasping this concept. In Germany we have 5-digit post codes, and the associated regions vary in size depending on how densely populated an a

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

> Google, Waze and OSMF have part Just to users of OSM from countries and cultures that do not know about April the 1st, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools% 27_Day I was born in Sweden. April fools is very popular there. I live in Greece now and here it is not popular or known. Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 02:23, Brian Quinion wrote: > I'd assume that the preferred usage would be defined per country in > the same way that admin_level and road to highway types are. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 2 April 2010 02:13, Brian Quinion > wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith wrote: >>> On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion >>> wrote: boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code street_pos

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 02:13, Brian Quinion wrote: > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith wrote: >> On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion >> wrote: >>> boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code >>> street_postal_code = 425253 >>> >>> or >>> >>> boundary = postal_code >

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion > wrote: >> boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code >> street_postal_code = 425253 >> >> or >> >> boundary = postal_code >> postal_code = 425253 >> postal_code_level = street |

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

On 2 April 2010 01:47, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > It's (well) after 12:00 here and in most of the world! ;-) It's april 2nd here... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 2 April 2010 01:51, Brian Quinion wrote: > boundary=street_postal_code | district_postal_code | city_postal_code > street_postal_code = 425253 > > or > > boundary = postal_code > postal_code = 425253 > postal_code_level = street | town | city | county That doesn't make sense for Australian pos

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

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Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >    we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post > code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using > what tagging schema? > > I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary relations with > boundar

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - zone of alienation

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Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

>Google, Waze and OSMF have partnered on a common initiative to explore crowd-sourced mapping solutions. Yes, >this is real. See: >www.closedstreetmap.org >for the full press release. Contact me if you want to be involved It's (well) after 12:00 here and in most of the world! ;-

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - zone of alienation

Hi, i want to suggest the "zone of alienation" feature because you usually don't want to get inside one and no navigationsystem should suggest such a route. I will be hard to map these zones, but it still makes sense in my oppinion as long as the dose is far far beond natural radiation. But possib

[OSM-talk] Announcing closedstreetmap.org

Google, Waze and OSMF have partnered on a common initiative to explore crowd-sourced mapping solutions. Yes, this is real. See: www.closedstreetmap.org for the full press release. Contact me if you want to be involved. ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal codes? Did you know that the US calls their postal codes, Zip Codes? Considering post code usage in multiple countries is a good idea before developing a post code schema

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: planet-100331.osm-broken

On 1 April 2010 15:07, Nakor Osm wrote: > > Was there an issue with the planet extract this week? If yes what was it? > Planet file was truncated. Currently re-generating. ETA is early tomorrow UTC. / Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal > codes? > > I think the discussion is about unifying the post_code tagging. If we could avoid so many different tags like "postal_code", "addr:postcode", "zip_code", "boud

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 1 April 2010 23:56, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Why are US Zip codes being dragged into a discussion of German postal codes? Because Frederik asked if someone else was mapping post codes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstre

[OSM-talk] Fwd: planet-100331.osm-broken

Sorry I meant to send this to talk but gmail auto-completed to talk-us. -- Forwarded message -- From: Nakor Osm Date: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:06 AM Subject: planet-100331.osm-broken To: talk...@openstreetmap.org Hello, Was there an issue with the planet extract this week? If y

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:36 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, postal-code (Zip code) boundaries don't necessarily correspond to > other administrative boundaries, and are frequently adjusted by the Post > Office to balance out the load on different local post offices.  Also, > real-esta

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey

You will find links and info from this morning on the talk-gb list Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- >boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Lester Caine >Sent: 01 April 2010 11:06 AM >To: OSM Talk >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Surve

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

In the USA, postal-code (Zip code) boundaries don't necessarily correspond to other administrative boundaries, and are frequently adjusted by the Post Office to balance out the load on different local post offices. Also, real-estate developers sometimes get the Post Office to shift a Zip-code b

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:31 AM, colliar wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Also hi > > Frederik Ramm schrieb: >>     we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post >> code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using >> what taggi

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 1 April 2010 21:13, John Smith wrote: > On 1 April 2010 20:54, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an "administrative" >> boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a private enterprise >> now. > > It was like that before I came along, I don'

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 1 April 2010 20:54, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an "administrative" > boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a private enterprise > now. It was like that before I came along, I don't know how much this was discussed before hand, I'

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Also hi Frederik Ramm schrieb: > we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post > code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using > what tagging schema? +1 > I was thinking of creating multipolygon b

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, John Smith wrote: > We're using them in Australia, as for schema: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data Hm. I'm somewhat reluctant to tag a post code boundary an "administrative" boundary. Our postal service is on its way to being a private enterprise now. > Also t

Re: [OSM-talk] Post code areas

On 1 April 2010 19:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: >we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post > code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using > what tagging schema? We're using them in Australia, as for schema: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Impo

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey

> Data available tomorrow (Thursday) at > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/opendata . Looks like the demand is too great ;) Anybody actually managed to register yet? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services

[OSM-talk] Post code areas

Hi, we're thinking about importing post code areas in Germany. Are post code areas being mapped in other countries already, and if so, using what tagging schema? I was thinking of creating multipolygon boundary relations with boundary=post_code_area or so. Bye Frederik __

[OSM-talk] RFC proposed relation type=waterway

Hi there, smarties and I (werner2101) have created a proposal about waterway relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Waterway The proposed tagging is already used a lot, thus the proposal is more a documentation of the current tagging. We've started to talk to all majo