Re: [Talk-hr] Plan Grada Sinja

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:43:28 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Ljudi s OSM liste pitaju gdje je OSM atttibucija? Što da im odgovorim? Samo nađi nekoga s laserskim printerom, otprintajte na naljepnicu OSM atribuciju, izrežeš i naljepiš. Gotovo za 10 minuta. -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [Talk-hr] pravne zavrzlame

2010-07-29 Thread Matija Nalis
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:42:51AM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: Pročitao sam tvoj mail do kraja no nikako da ti odgovorim. A koja je alternativa? Koliko sam vidio svi se slažu s time da Jedna od alternativa je recimo ne cackaj mecku, odnosno ostaviti projekt pod trenutnom CC-BY-SA 2.0

Re: [Talk-hr] pravne zavrzlame

2010-07-29 Thread Matija Nalis
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:05:31PM +, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:06:35 +0200, Matija Nalis wrote: Oni (Navteq, TeleAtlas...) to rade da bi imali pravnu osnovu za tuziti. Ukoliko OSM takve stvari dozvoljava (npr. dozvoli TeleAtlasu ili nekome da uzme OSM podatke,

Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-07-29 Thread maning sambale
In some cases, we tend to forget the coastline way direction rule Left-side of the way direction should be land (or counterclockwise around the island) . The garmin map compiler detects this and correct them accordingly in the local file. You can then correct them in osm by looking at my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-29 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Lars Aronsson schrieb: The perpetual discussion over licenses is very tiring, but I can put up with that. What I just can't tolerate is this kind of argument that professional lawyers have some absolute authority, that trumps every contributor's opinion. I'm not saying that these lawyers are

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-29 Thread Ben Last
Now that the dust has (hopefully) settled a little on this thread... Whilst it's not actually in my job description to try and move forward on how NearMap deals with the proposed OSM licence change, I'm going to try anyway. Having trawled back through endless discussions, what I'm after are

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution? Just got info that it will be printed on a sticker and added. Looks like a misunderstanding at the print shop. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog:

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:02:29 +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Hey, this SotM we did female t-shirts (tank tops). And we ran out of them, which IMHO means we got more women than expected. Which is a good thing. Of guys made their girlfriends wear them ;) -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:41:00 -0700, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote: what do you mean by All data was collected by Jhabjan? In the history of that bounding box I can see lots of contributions from different users... There are minor edits, but AFAIK JHabjan did over 90% od data collection,

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution? Just got info that it will be printed on a sticker and added. Looks like a misunderstanding at the print shop. excellent! let's hope that will

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution? Regarding attribution, I see the text on Attribution page on WIKI but can't find any image with OSM LOGO image with Attribution text... I searched WIKI but just don't

Re: [OSM-talk] ssl for wiki.openstreetmap.org

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:24:04 +0200, colliar wrote: Hi I wonder why there is no ssl-support for the wiki. It woudb be nice if I could enter my password and changes with an encrypted connection and not just plain text. Thanks colliar My guess is because proper SSL certs aren't cheap and

[OSM-talk] Attribution image needed

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
Regarding attribution, I see the text on Attribution WIKI page WIKI but can't find any image with OSM LOGO image with Attribution text... I searched WIKI but just don't don't see any. Could you help and point me to an image that could be put on this and on any other printed map. Legal WIKI

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL / BY-SA

2010-07-29 Thread Rob Myers
I have asked on the odc-discuss mailing list about how the share-alike of the ODbL interacts with the share-alike of BY-SA: http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/odc-discuss/2010-July/000275.html Short answer: There is no problem. Long Answer: ODbL 1.0 clause 4.6 doesn't cover other people using

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView

2010-07-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Maning, Yes, it can work anywhere. Nick -maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: 29/07/2010 03:07AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView Does this cover the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView

2010-07-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Thanks for the ideas - the point below was raised by at least a couple of people. *Bulk upload* That last one is the key to a successful project, in my opinion. It would be very nice if support for this contributor-process would be supported. I've found a JavaScript library to do this - see

Re: [OSM-talk] ssl for wiki.openstreetmap.org

2010-07-29 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 29.07.2010 14:44, schrieb Valent Turkovic: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:24:04 +0200, colliar wrote: Hi I wonder why there is no ssl-support for the wiki. It woudb be nice if I could enter my password and changes with an encrypted connection

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Chris Hill
John Smith wrote: On 29 July 2010 20:21, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: 1st October 2010 Gives time to get the rendering resolved. Does anyone have a problem, or see any problems, shifting the following tags into the emergency=* tag space? amenity=police -

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 02:59, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Firstly, not all hospitals are emergency hospitals, so I think that is a bad idea. Point taken... Secondly John, you seem to have unilaterally decided to make this change, and actually implemented some of it in the course of an

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Chris Hill
John Smith wrote: On 30 July 2010 02:59, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: Firstly, not all hospitals are emergency hospitals, so I think that is a bad idea. Point taken... Secondly John, you seem to have unilaterally decided to make this change, and actually implemented some

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 03:35, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: You have already changed amenity=ambulance_station to emergency=ambulance_station, which was not listed above, so you have already started to make these worldwide changes. It wasn't documented at all on the wiki, at all, so if it was

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Brian Quinion
Discussing this for a day on the Tagging list is not enough for you to make this change. How much time should it take? I didn't really set a dead line but was trying to get comments on the idea... A change that breaks every editor / renderer / search data user ? 6 months minimum before you

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Discussing this for a day on the Tagging list is not enough for you to make this change. How much time should it take? I didn't really set a dead line but was trying to get comments on the idea...

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 04:09, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand this argument. Doesn't every tag change anywhere break every editor/renderer/search/data user whether or not you think it is correct? It's slightly amusing how it comes up every now and then about what to do about

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Brian Quinion
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Discussing this for a day on the Tagging list is not enough for you to make this change. How much time should it take? I didn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
If there IS a change for medical stuff, I would personally rather see the medical=* proposal be used. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Medical Hospitals could be medical=hospital and emergency=yes/no to take care of the is this an emergency hospital concern. Then I guess a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 04:54, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: If there IS a change for medical stuff, I would personally rather see the medical=* proposal be used. At this stage it'd be nice to sort out the emergency=* issue before trying to tackle anything else :) I agree with Chris that it

Re: [OSM-talk] ssl for wiki.openstreetmap.org

2010-07-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 28 July 2010 12:24, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: I wonder why there is no ssl-support for the wiki. It woudb be nice if I could enter my password and changes with an encrypted connection and not just plain text. I'll set it up in a few days. We already have a certificate. / Grant

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Ross Scanlon
Better yet - just don't change it. This sort of change just isn't worth the pain and hundreds of developer hours that could be better spent on moving the project forward. Yes - this sort of change might make the tag heirachy prettier - but not enough to justify the work. Garbage. It's not

[OSM-talk] Landsat?

2010-07-29 Thread Tomas Straupis
Hello Is anybody else experiencing landsat problems in JOSM? For about three days now landsat images are not available to JOSM. http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/ says something about evil „repetitive requests for non-cached, small WMS tiles“. Does that mean no more landsat in JOSM? -- Tomas

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mapping party Utrecht

2010-07-29 Thread Martijn van Exel
Gaat dit door? Ik zie een hoop belangstelling!! 12 mensen op zowel zaterdag 7 als zondag 22 augustus. Kunnen we een mooi OSM-feestje van maken! Ik neem als ik kan in elk geval de hesjes mee... Wat zijn je plannen, Frank? Misschien ook wat pers inschakelen! Een newbie-workshop misschien? Ik zal

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mapping party Utrecht

2010-07-29 Thread Frank Steggink
Hoi Martijn, e.a. Tuurlijk gaat dit door. Het is nog steeds in de loop van de week ;) Op dit moment zijn er 13 personen bij wie de 22e de voorkeur heeft, dus bij deze wordt dit de datum. Zet maar in je agenda: 22 augustus, 13:00u, Stairway to Heaven, Mariaplaats, Utrecht. Dat wordt zeker een

[OSM-talk-nl] Mapping party Utrecht 22 augustus

2010-07-29 Thread Frank Steggink
Hallo lijst, Ik heb een wiki-pagina gemaakt voor de mapping party. Hier zijn alle details te vinden. Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Utrecht/Mapping_party_2010 Groeten, Frank On 10-07-29 06:06 PM, Frank Steggink wrote: Hoi Martijn, e.a. Tuurlijk gaat dit door. Het is nog steeds

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread 80n
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:12 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 29 July 2010 13:57, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: What should I do? Can I unagree to the CTs? I doubt you can unagree, although you won't get an answer even if you asked, the whole process is very

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 17:58, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: If a new user, who has agreed to the contributor terms, makes a contribution that this derived from work that is *only* licensed under CC-BY-SA do they have the right to allow that contribution to be licensed under ODbL. I don't think they

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Indeed; the entire subject is shrouded in what I'd call complexity, and what lawyers would call my retirement beach house fund :)  I look at it this way; imagine an eager Nearmap user buys a house in some newly developed

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be much simpler to define source:nearmap as implying attribution:nearmap, as opposed to using both tags. Heh. It's simple in the sense that it's simple to wish upon a star. To actual document and

Re: [talk-au] tagging the source of edits

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 22:47, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: That was another question I meant to ask. Does one map in accordance with the legal jurisdiction that the OSM servers are within, the jurisdiction where the mapper is, or the jurisdiction of the area being mapped? You personally

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach... On Sun,

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 23:34, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: 1) YOU have to ask Nearmap if they are OK with YOU using their imagery under the terms of the CT Which they aren't so... 2) you cant use Nearmap imagery for tracing, and you should ask for all your edits where you have used

[talk-au] What makes a good change set comment?

2010-07-29 Thread Richard Weait
What goes in to a good change set comment? Should it include the nature of your edits, the sources used, edit theme, and location? What else? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] What makes a good change set comment?

2010-07-29 Thread Liz
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Richard Weait wrote: What goes in to a good change set comment? Should it include the nature of your edits, the sources used, edit theme, and location? What else? The question is good, but from a mapper point of view I don't want to put in masses of information. I want

Re: [talk-au] Showgrounds

2010-07-29 Thread Craig Feuerherdt
Well it appears as though people have been tagging them as landuse=recreation_ground (as per Melbourne Showgrounds) which seems the closest approximation to what it is. On 30 July 2010 13:21, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2010 12:06, Craig Feuerherdt

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Which they aren't so... I was going to just create a new account, and not agree to the CTs, only to discover you cannot create an account without accepting. That means that no new members can contribute by deriving

Re: [talk-au] ODBL yet again, but from a pragmatic approach...

2010-07-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 July 2010 15:40, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to just create a new account, and not agree to the CTs, only to discover you cannot create an account without accepting. That means that no new members can contribute by deriving information from Nearmap

Re: [Talk-br] Mapeando o norte da cidade de Rio de Janeiro

2010-07-29 Thread Alno
Oi, ---Selon Claudomiro Nascimento Junior claudom...@claudomiro.com: Oi Alno, Você mora na França? Legal vc estar contribuindo com a gente aqui... Sim, moro na França, na cidade de Toulouse no sul do pais. Isso é tambem a razão porque eu não fala bem brasileiro :) Me foi no Rio os anos

Re: [Talk-br] Palestra apresentando o OSM no FISL

2010-07-29 Thread Rodrigo Avila
Em 28 de julho de 2010 19:04, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com escreveu: O vídeo eu vou ficar devendo, pelo menos por enquanto - ainda não arrumei uma forma simples de dividir o vídeo no Ubuntu. Se interessante for, coloque os arquivos brutos em algum lugar pra baixar, que eu

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376

2010-07-29 Thread André Joost
Am 28.07.10 20:50, schrieb Steffen: Dann frage ich mal: Wie sind die Relationen dann zu taggen? Stromleitungen: type=route route=power Busrouten: type=route route=bus Sammelbusrelation für Hin,Rück und Variante gleicher Nummer: type=line line=bus Theoretisch gibt es ja in josm eine

[Talk-de] Foosgis2010: Erläuterung zur GIS Sof tware

2010-07-29 Thread Tirkon
Moin, Auf dem Stand von OSM auf der Fossgis2010 lag ein einzelnes dünnes Heft, in dem auf Deutsch eine Übersicht über Software rund um GIS gegeben wurde. Ich konnte nur einen kurzen Blick hineinwerfen. Dabei gewann ich den Eindruck, dass es auch für GIS-Laien relativ gut verstehbar war, so dass

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376

2010-07-29 Thread André Joost
Am 29.07.10 09:14, schrieb Georg Feddern: Moin, André Joost schrieb: Theoretisch gibt es ja in josm eine Vorlage für Relationen mit den Vorgaben Multipolygon, Abbiegerestriktion und Route. Nur irgendwie sagt er mir immer (Version 3329), die Auswahl wäre unpassend :-( ja, da habe ich bis

Re: [Talk-de] Hochgeladene Tracks auf Karte anzeigen

2010-07-29 Thread Tirkon
yzemaze yzem...@gmx.net wrote: Wenn google jetzt noch OSM Tiles anzeigen würde ;-) Irgendwo hatte ich gelesen, dass Bing maps das bald anbieten will. Weiß jemand, wann das erfolgen soll? ist schon live, allerdings wird silverlight benötigt

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376

2010-07-29 Thread André Joost
Am 29.07.10 09:50, schrieb André 'Ingrid' Joost: Am 29.07.10 09:14, schrieb Georg Feddern: Es muss die Relation ausgewählt sein, nicht deren Elemente. Also (ggf. erst eine Relation anlegen und/oder) in der Relationsliste doppelklicken - erst danach kann man die Relationseigenschaften im

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit Seen und Inseln

2010-07-29 Thread Christoph Matthei
On 2010-07-27 16:45 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 27. Juli 2010 10:15 schrieb Christoph Matthei christ...@matthei.org: Hallo, On 2010-07-27 03:48 Willi wrote: beim Ansehen der Seen sind mir mögliche Fehlerquellen aufgefallen. Da der outer-Ring an sich nichts darstellt, sollte er keine Tags

Re: [Talk-de] Foosgis2010: Erläuterung zur GIS Softw are

2010-07-29 Thread Lars Lingner
Am 29.07.2010 09:22, schrieb Tirkon: Moin, Auf dem Stand von OSM auf der Fossgis2010 lag ein einzelnes dünnes Heft, in dem auf Deutsch eine Übersicht über Software rund um GIS gegeben wurde. Ich konnte nur einen kurzen Blick hineinwerfen. Dabei gewann ich den Eindruck, dass es auch für

Re: [Talk-de] Job fuer einen Bot: Hoehenangabe im Namen

2010-07-29 Thread Jonas Stein
Bei unzaehligen Berghuetten steht die Hoehe im Namen. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/477726059 name = Gehrenalpe (1354m) nehme an, dass das Taggen für den Rednerer ist, da so die Höhenlöage der Hütte wie in Wanderkarten üblich mit angezeigt wird:

[Talk-de] svn probleme

2010-07-29 Thread Gary G:
hi, habe ein problem mit svn client unter ubuntu bzw. svn.openstreetmap.org wenn ich svn commit eingebe, kommt der editor für die log msg und danach dann ein svn commit stopped von der shell (bg job) - keine detailierte meldung! danach bestehen dann lokale locks, die mit svn cleanup gelöst

[Talk-de] seek in osm files III

2010-07-29 Thread Gary G:
habe es nun geschafft, die seek geschichte in osm.pm einzubauen. ist aber noch nicht im svn, weil probleme (siehe andere mail) benutzt man dann zum beispiel checkrelation.pl, was einige sprünge in den file scans durchführt, führt das zu einer geschwindigkeitssteigerung von 15% ciao gerhard

Re: [Talk-de] svn probleme

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Körner
Am 29.07.2010 13:29, schrieb Gary G:: svn commit stopped das klingt nach einer Nachricht deiner Shell, über ein hin den Hintergrund verschobenes Programm: peterkoer...@dedskwie44 ~ $ sleep 10 (Strg+Z) [1]+ Stopped sleep 10 peterkoer...@dedskwie44 ~ $

Re: [Talk-de] svn probleme

2010-07-29 Thread Gary68
ja genau. es geht mittlerweile auch wieder. strg-z ist auch ein kommando des editors, der dort verwendet wird... strg-o ist schreiben und strg-z verlassen. hm. strange. On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 14:56 +0200, Peter Körner wrote: Am 29.07.2010 13:29, schrieb Gary G:: svn commit stopped das

Re: [Talk-de] Mapnikstyle Germanica

2010-07-29 Thread Sven Geggus
Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com wrote: Gibt es nicht einen Minimalistischen Cascadenik-Stil, der einfach mit diesem Standard-OSM-Setup (Datenbank mit osm2pgsql importiert, die shapefiles, die der Standard-OSM-Mapnik auch benutzt etc...) funktioniert? Schau mal die Styles von Collin

[Talk-de] NATO Truppenübungsplatz BERGEN - Aufm essen

2010-07-29 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! am Wochenende steht der Truppenübungsplatz Bergen-Hohne [1] für das Volksradfahren [2], [3] zur Verfügung. Eine Chance, die es nur einmal im Jahr gibt, um dieses Gelände legal aufzumessen. Gruß Jan :-) [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.823lon=9.817zoom=11layers=M [2]

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM V 3376

2010-07-29 Thread Steffen
--- Original Nachricht --- Absender: André Riedel Datum: 28.07.2010 21:09 Am 28. Juli 2010 20:50 schrieb Steffendido_...@web.de: Dann frage ich mal: Wie sind die Relationen dann zu taggen? [2] type=public_transport JOSM - public_transport Im Oxomoa-Schema

[Talk-de] phpMyGPX v0.6.1 veröffentlicht

2010-07-29 Thread Sebastian Klemm
Hallo allerseits, ich habe eine neue Version meiner PHP/MySQL/OpenLayers-basierten Web-Anwendung zur Verwaltung und Darstellung gesammelter GPX-Dateien und Fotos veröffentlicht. Nachdem sich die vorherige Version 0.6 leider als recht fehlerbehaftet herausgestellt hat, hoffe ich, dass die neue

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei =?iso-8859-15?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 29.07.2010 16:59, schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 23:38 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Wenn ich zwei der Richtungsways verbinde und diese widersprüchliche Tags haben, welche Widersprü+che meinst du denn? forward-backward kann es ja nicht sein, da diese attribute ja nicht mehr nötig sind.

[Talk-de] tracktype an Nicht-tracks

2010-07-29 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Da im Forum gerade die Frage tracktype-Verwendung an highway=path diskutiert wurde, hier mal eine kleine interessante Statistik: .ways track path foot cycle bridl servic residen steps unclas ford road grade1 179873 168996 1069 1058 1437 2 2107236163

Re: [Talk-de] tracktype an Nicht-tracks

2010-07-29 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 29.07.2010 21:36, schrieb Heiko Jacobs: Die footways mit tracktype dürften öfters eigentlich trampelpfad-paths sein? Wie kann man sich wohl highway=steps tracktype=grade5 vorstellen? ;) Es gibt zwar die Sac-Scales, aber denen fehlt die Abstufung zwischen grade1-3. Was steps=grade5 ist?

[Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-29 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, wird eine Gemeinde so richtig über eine Node getaggt: ... name:Mustergemeinde place:village ... Mir geht insbesondere um den place-Tag. Normal wird doch village eigentlich immer für ein Dorf unter 10k Einwohner verwendet. Gibt es für einen Gemeindenamen nicht auch ein anderes Tag?

[Talk-de] OSM-Redner fuer 4.10. in Goettingen gesucht

2010-07-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, am 4./5. Oktober sind an der Uni Goettingen die Open-Access-Tage (http://www.open-access.net/). Am 4. machen die einen Session unter dem Titel Open Access und Open Content, und haetten da gern jemanden, der in einem kleinen Vortrag (ca. 30 min. inkl. Fragen) OSM vorstellt.

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei forward/backward)

2010-07-29 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, 15:23:35 schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 08:05 schrieb Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com: ich weiss nicht, ob ich's sschon mal erwaehnt hatte, aber fuer Fahrspurtagging gab's schon mal ein Konzept, dass ohne separate ways auskommt... Das ist also nichts

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-15?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread steffterra
Am 29.07.2010 um 21:09 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 29.07.2010 16:59, schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 23:38 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Wenn ich zwei der Richtungsways verbinde und diese widersprüchliche Tags haben, welche Widersprü+che meinst du denn? forward-backward kann es ja nicht sein,

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei =?utf-8?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, 20:12:50 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: die Richtung dreht auch der Editor selbst automatisch alle Nas lang (JOSM warnt dabei), sobald man zwei ways zusammenfügt. Es führt nichts dran vorbei: die Richtung ändert sich (zumindest derzeit) oft. na dann wundert mich ja gar

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei =?utf-8?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 21:09:47 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 29.07.2010 16:59, schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 23:38 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Wenn ich zwei der Richtungsways verbinde und diese widersprüchliche Tags haben, welche Widersprü+che meinst du denn? forward-backward kann es

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-1?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:15:07 schrieb steffterra: Er kann es aber leichter entscheiden, wenn er davon ausgehen kann, dass die Richtigkeit der Tags nicht von einem potentiell falsch gedrehten way wieder zunichte gemacht werden könnte. Er kann sich einfach sicher sein, dass auf der

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways b ei =?utf-8?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 29.07.2010 23:16, schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, 20:12:50 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: die Richtung dreht auch der Editor selbst automatisch alle Nas lang (JOSM warnt dabei), sobald man zwei ways zusammenfügt. Es führt nichts dran vorbei: die Richtung ändert sich

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei forward/backward)

2010-07-29 Thread steffterra
Am 29.07.2010 um 23:15 schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010, 15:23:35 schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 08:05 schrieb Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com: ich weiss nicht, ob ich's sschon mal erwaehnt hatte, aber fuer Fahrspurtagging gab's schon mal ein Konzept, dass ohne

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?utf-8?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread steffterra
Am 29.07.2010 um 23:26 schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 21:09:47 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 29.07.2010 16:59, schrieb steffterra: Am 28.07.2010 um 23:38 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Wenn ich zwei der Richtungsways verbinde und diese widersprüchliche Tags haben, welche

Re: [Talk-de] Konzept für die Gruppierung von ways ( ähnlich Linienbündel; Problem von drehenden ways bei =?iso-8859-1?q?_forward/backward?=)

2010-07-29 Thread steffterra
Am 29.07.2010 um 23:34 schrieb Guenther Meyer: Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010, 23:15:07 schrieb steffterra: Er kann es aber leichter entscheiden, wenn er davon ausgehen kann, dass die Richtigkeit der Tags nicht von einem potentiell falsch gedrehten way wieder zunichte gemacht werden könnte. Er

Re: [Talk-de] Foosgis2010: Erläuterung zur GIS Sof tware

2010-07-29 Thread Tirkon
Lars Lingner lars.ling...@fossgis.de wrote: Meinst Du den Tagungsband? Dort sind (fast) alle Vorträge/Beiträge enthalten. Aber das geht wohl nicht mehr als dünnes Heft durch... Na, wenn ich den nicht kennen würde, dann wäre wohl die gesamte Intention der Fossgis an mir vorbeigegangen. ;-) Oder

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-29 Thread Augustus Kling
Pascal Neis pascal.neis at gmail.com writes: Hi, wird eine Gemeinde so richtig über eine Node getaggt: ... name:Mustergemeinde place:village ... Mir geht insbesondere um den place-Tag. Normal wird doch village eigentlich immer für ein Dorf unter 10k Einwohner verwendet. Gibt

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit Seen und Inseln

2010-07-29 Thread Willi
On Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010 17:05 schrieb Christoph Matthei christ...@matthei.org: Grundsätzlich gebe ich Dir recht; man sollte auf keinen Fall Multipolygone als Ersatz für Flächen ansehen. Ist es nicht so, dass Multipolygone die Flächendarstellung in OSM sind und area=yes und alle

Re: [Talk-de] tracktype an Nicht-tracks

2010-07-29 Thread Walter Nordmann
auch ein hübsches treppchen - eventuell nur grade4? http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/file/n5353459/treppe_grade5.jpg - if it's there and you can see it, it's REAL if it's there and you can't see it, it's TRANSPARENT if it's not there and you can see it, it's VIRTUAL if it's not there and

Re: [Talk-de] Forum, Wiki, Tagging-Fragen WAS Re: natural=tree und village_green

2010-07-29 Thread Johannes Huesing
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org [Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:33:42PM CEST]: Hallo, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: [...] Ich finde es nicht besonders glücklich, dass die deutsche Community sowohl im Forum als auch auf Talk-de über Tagging-Fragen diskuttiert. Noch viel schlimmer finde ich die

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Gemeindename taggen?

2010-07-29 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi Agustus, Augustus Kling schrieb: Pascal Neis pascal.neis at gmail.com writes: Hi, wird eine Gemeinde so richtig über eine Node getaggt: ... name:Mustergemeinde place:village ... Mir geht insbesondere um den place-Tag. Normal wird doch village eigentlich immer für ein Dorf unter

Re: [Talk-in] Specific tags for India

2010-07-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 09:28:00 pm Tecoholic Maps wrote: How do we solve these tagging exceptions. you make tags and icons and contribute them to osmindia - the link is in the .in site. And details of how to make icons and tags are on the india related pages of the wiki -- Regards Kenneth

Re: [Talk-in] Specific tags for India

2010-07-29 Thread Arun Ganesh
Has anyone created a page on the OSM wiki for this before? we need to list these down instead of keeping it in the mails. Since i have never been a part of any of the proposal requests, im not sure how it works. It looks a bit unorganised. Do we keep a separate page under India/Proposed_features?

[Talk-it] Comuni Valle d'Aosta

2010-07-29 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, guardando la situazione in Valle d'Aosta, vedo che sono presenti solo pochi comuni. Non sono stati importati come gli altri dai dati ISTAT? Qualcuno ne sa qualcosa? Grazie. Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Ciao a tutti, volendo sistemare la pagina wiki di Vercelli (e poi di altre città che seguo), ho dato un'occhiata a quella di Genova [1], che è molto completa e potrebbe essere usata come riferimento (almeno è la migliore di quelle che ho guardato; se qualcuno ne conosce una ancora più completa,

Re: [Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 7/29/10, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Mi viene un dubbio, però, sulla tabella con le zone della città e lo stato della mappa. Intanto, le zone della città devono per forza far riferimento a municipi, circoscrizioni, zone amministrative, etc.? [...] Inoltre, come

[Talk-it] Visibility of GPS traces

2010-07-29 Thread iiizio iiizio
Il nuovo default per la visibilità delle tracce caricate [1] è Private :( e non ho trovato il modo di settare una preferenza personale. Inoltre la pagina per l'upload [2] non mostra più le tracce precedentemente caricate, cosa che aiutava sia a capire a che punto si era arrivati che a copiare

Re: [Talk-it] [wiki] Nuove pagine in italiano!

2010-07-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 28 luglio 2010 14.17, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com ha scritto: Che dire... in questi momenti sono veramente orgoglioso di essere coinvolto in questo sogno delle mappe libere, il mio grazie va a tutti! +1, grazie a tutti; basta poco impegno da parte di più persone per riuscire

Re: [Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il 29 luglio 2010 11.20, Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 7/29/10, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Mi viene un dubbio, però, sulla tabella con le zone della città e lo stato della mappa. Intanto, le zone della città devono per forza far

Re: [Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 29 luglio 2010 10.45, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Grazie, proprio quello che cercavo! Ho ancora un dubbio: in che lingua vanno scritte queste pagine? io metterei quella di default in italiano e poi EN:Vercelli in inglese Ciao, Simone ciao Luca

Re: [Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 29 luglio 2010 10.13, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, volendo sistemare la pagina wiki di Vercelli (e poi di altre città che seguo), ho dato un'occhiata a quella di Genova [1], che è molto completa e potrebbe essere usata come riferimento (almeno è la

Re: [Talk-it] Wiki cittadini

2010-07-29 Thread Stefano Salvador
Sulla pagina di Varese_ abbiamo diviso lo status per frazioni anziche' zone, con una granularita` decisamente fine, e abbiamo usato il template map status che mostra il completamento di vari aspetti con graziosi e colorati disegnini :) .. _Varese: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Varese

[Talk-it] corretta ortografia nomi delle strade

2010-07-29 Thread Gian-Paolo
Ciao, chiedo scusa per il doppio invio. Ieri avevo mandato questo messaggio[0] in cui chiedevo conferma sull'attuale standard su maiuscole e minuscole nei nomi delle strade. Non voglio rimettere in discussione un argomento che è stato dibattuto a lungo ma vorrei conferma di quanto scritto nel

Re: [Talk-it] corretta ortografia nomi delle strade

2010-07-29 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 29/07/2010 14:09, Gian-Paolo ha scritto: vorrei conferma di quanto scritto nel wiki[1] [...] 1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Key:name#Nomi_in_Maiuscolo_o_minuscolo.3F Tutto giusto. Ci sono altre 2 (se non ricordo male) pagine nel wiki in cui si dicono le stesse cose:

Re: [Talk-it] [wiki] Nuove pagine in italiano!

2010-07-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
Ciao, sto traducendo il template del Map Status [1] . Se ho tempo farò anche un giro sulle pagine che lo usano per usare la versione localizzata; se qualcuno di voi lo usa in una pagina che mantiene, sapete dove trovarlo :-) Simone [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:It:Map_status

Re: [Talk-it] corretta ortografia nomi delle strade

2010-07-29 Thread Salemme Guido
Io ho un dubbio sui nomi per esempio proprio ultimamente ho aggiunto i nomi di tre strade via ponte baratta primo , ponte baratta secondo , ponte baratta terzo sul cartello stradale è indicato con numeri romani in open street map come devono essere indicati I II III o 1° 2° 3° oppure a

Re: [Talk-it] corretta ortografia nomi delle strade

2010-07-29 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 30/07/2010 00:47, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: numeri romani direi per Via XX Settembre si fa così No: ci sono 2 errori. La grafia corretta (o meglio, secondo i nostri standard) è Via 20 settembre, perché i mesi in italiano sono minuscoli (contrariamente a quanto riportano quasi

Re: [Talk-co] Maraton

2010-07-29 Thread Leonardo Gutierrez
Fredy, Vez la posibilidad de que exista de alguna forma disponibilidad de imagenes de Duitama para este evento, te lo digo tambien porque hace unos meses alguien en la lista comento que la nasa estaba muy interesada en el uso de su informacion en proyectos educativos. O no se si con Ochas haya

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