Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Steve Chilton
Thanks for that. I will try to live up to your image! The other SteveC From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Gonsalves [law...@au-kbc.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:21 AM To: Frederik Ramm Cc:

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:12 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > On 11/24/10 04:41, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > then who is the older bearded guy? Or is he a fake? > > The older bearded guy hasn't yet joined Microsoft as far as I'm > aware. now I have sorted it out - there are two of them. Only Ste

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/24/10 04:41, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: then who is the older bearded guy? Or is he a fake? The older bearded guy hasn't yet joined Microsoft as far as I'm aware. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread maning sambale
Steve Chilton? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Steve8 On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:53 +1100, David Murn wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:13 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrot

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:53 +1100, David Murn wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:13 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > > > > http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing > > > > > > > http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-wor

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:13 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > > http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing > > > > http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima > > I am a little confused

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing > > http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima I am a little confused - who is SteveC? or are there two of them? -- regards Kenneth Gonsal

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread David Fawcett
Actually, that already happened a few months ago when NPR's Future Tense did a story about the new OSM tiles for Bing. On Nov 23, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Chris Browet wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:06, Richard Weait wrote: > http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bi

[OSM-talk] wiki list of bing imagery coverage (Re: Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile)

2010-11-23 Thread maning sambale
I started the list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Chris Browet wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:06, Richard Weait wrote: >> >> http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing >> >> http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Chris Browet
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:06, Richard Weait wrote: > http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing > > http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima > > Do we take bets on the time before the first article/blog comes out saying that OSM belongs to

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-23 Thread Ben Last
Sounds interesting :) b On 24 November 2010 05:45, Steve Citron-Pousty wrote: > > Greetings OSM: > deCarta, Mapquest, Bing, and WeoGeo are really excited about where OSM is > going - we would like to have an unconference on how mapping Corps can help > OSM - what do people think? There should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-23 Thread Martijn van Exel
I suggest to make it a ménage à trois and include the government perspective: USGS, EuroGeographics, etc. Also, the question of how can we help improve your product and operation is valid in all directions, not only --> OSM. Martijn van Exel +++ m...@rtijn.org laziness – impatience – hubris http

[OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-23 Thread Steve Citron-Pousty
Greetings OSM: deCarta, Mapquest, Bing, and WeoGeo are really excited about where OSM is going - we would like to have an unconference on how mapping Corps can help OSM - what do people think? There should be a way we can work together to create value for everyone. We have more ideas or details

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-23 Thread 80n
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Francis Davey wrote: > On 23 November 2010 17:08, Ed Avis wrote: > > > > Thanks. My followup question - which is not quite so much a question of > pure > > fact, and addressed not to you but to the list in general - is that if > database > > copyright applies wh

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Florian Heer
Am 23.11.2010 18:56, schrieb Maarten Deen: On 23-11-2010 18:52, Jonathan Bennett wrote: On 23/11/2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed to now? The

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > (By the way, it's not M$ any more - you're thinking of GOOGL£...) You mean the GOOGL£5k that they generously donated years ago for our DB server? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Markus Lindholm wrote: > Anyone read the fine print of the license under which M$ provides the > imagery? It hasn't been released yet. That's why, although we already have Potlatch 2 support coded, it hasn't been deployed on any of the P2 instances (and I believe the same is true for the JOSM sli

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Markus Lindholm
Anyone read the fine print of the license under which M$ provides the imagery? /Markus On 23 November 2010 19:43, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Grant Slater wrote: >> Same answer for the Potlatch... >> http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1602/how-can-i-use-microsofts-aerial-imagery-in-potlatc

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Grant Slater wrote: > Same answer for the Potlatch... > http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1602/how-can-i-use-microsofts-aerial-imagery-in-potlatch Potlatch 2 can now, as of five minutes ago, display Bing-format tiles. We're waiting for the official "start tracing" announcement, and any prov

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-23 Thread Francis Davey
On 23 November 2010 17:08, Ed Avis wrote: > > Thanks.  My followup question - which is not quite so much a question of pure > fact, and addressed not to you but to the list in general - is that if > database > copyright applies wherever database right does, why not use copyright alone? Because i

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Grant Slater
On 23 November 2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: > > This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that > at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed > to now? > Same answer for the Potlatch... http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1602/

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Martijn van Exel
There would be something you could do with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/SlippyMap#Custom_tile_URLS and http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb259689.aspx probably. Martijn van Exel +++ m...@rtijn.org laziness – impatience – hubris http://schaaltreinen.nl | http://martijnvanex

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread simon
> http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing > Congratulations Steve. This is great news. Bing (despite the god-awful name) are actually doing some really cool stuff in the mapping/geodata field. With an 'inside' man who appreciates the value of open-data and crowd sourc

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 23-11-2010 18:52, Jonathan Bennett wrote: On 23/11/2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed to now? The announcement was made less than an hour ago

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 23/11/2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed to now? The announcement was made less than an hour ago -- be patient! _

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Florian Heer
--- Mike N. schrieb am Di, 23.11.2010: > WOO HOO! Does anyone have the magic JOSM string for > this? This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed to now? Regards, Florian Heer

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Never mind Steve Coast joining Microsoft (though I would guess several people would have apoplexy over a husband and a wife working for rival mapping companies), but the anticipated announcement that Microsoft will let OpenStreetMappers trace from their imagery is a much more welcome news to me! :-

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Mike N.
Subject: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile "Microsoft is donating access to it's global orthorectified aerial imagery to help OpenStreetMappers make the map even better than it already is." WOO HOO! Does anyone have the magic JOSM string for this?

[OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Weait
http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] 1 billionth node

2010-11-23 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
We apparently hit the 1 billionth node milestone last Monday (or the node with ID 10 if the previous statement is not accurate): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/10 The node is, unsurprisingly, part of some import in Romania. Make of that what you will. :-D ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/23/10 12:59, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We have introduced a new binary format that compresses far better than even xz, so if you're willing to install extra software for uncompressing data, go with the new pbf format. Extrac

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-23 Thread Ed Avis
Emilie Laffray writes: >As always, the standard reality check applies: if you believe that maps or the >data they represent are not covered by copyright, please start large-scale >photocopying of some commercial maps, or copying the information from them into >another format that you then publish

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Daniel van Gerpen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:59:54 +0100 Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frederik Ramm > wrote: > > We have introduced a new binary format that compresses far better > > than even xz, so if you're willing to install extra software for > > uncompressing data, go with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-23 Thread 80n
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Grant Slater wrote: > On 23 November 2010 13:23, Grant Slater > wrote: > > On 23 November 2010 13:04, Ed Avis wrote: > >> > >> As always, the standard reality check applies: if you believe that maps > or the > >> data they represent are not covered by copyright,

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On Tue, November 23, 2010 11:59 am, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frederik Ramm > wrote: >> We have introduced a new binary format that compresses far better than >> even >> xz, so if you're willing to install extra software for uncompressing >> data, >> go wit

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Dupont
Great work Frederik ! thanks again for your extracts! On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Fabio, > > > Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > >> It seems that all files from planet.openstreetmap.org are in .bz2 >> format. Why using it instead of xz? xz can compress (usually) more

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > We have introduced a new binary format that compresses far better than even > xz, so if you're willing to install extra software for uncompressing data, > go with the new pbf format. Extracts on the download.geofabrik.de site are > already a

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Fabio, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: It seems that all files from planet.openstreetmap.org are in .bz2 format. Why using it instead of xz? xz can compress (usually) more than bz2 and is way faster to compress/uncompress.(1) I'm sure that there are other sources that report the same info. Please

[OSM-talk] Why tagging of GPX tracks while uploading

2010-11-23 Thread Martin Garbe
Hello *, I wonder why there are tags while uploading gpx tracks on the osm website. Ok you can use it to tag the tracks but is there any application using these tags or are there any planed? I read about potlatch maybe using these tags but could not find whether it is already implemented. Wha

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents

2010-11-23 Thread Ed Avis
Rob Myers writes: >>I work with databases every day and I don't understand how the 'database' >>versus 'contents' distinction is meant to apply to maps and to OSM in >>particular. > >Imagine a database of names, song titles, photographs, recipes, poems or >credit card numbers. Yes, this makes

Re: [OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Tom Hughes
On 23/11/10 11:06, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > It seems that all files from planet.openstreetmap.org are in .bz2 > format. Why using it instead of xz? xz can compress (usually) more > than bz2 and is way faster to compress/uncompress.(1) I'm sure that > there are other sources that report the

[OSM-talk] Why bz2?

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
It seems that all files from planet.openstreetmap.org are in .bz2 format. Why using it instead of xz? xz can compress (usually) more than bz2 and is way faster to compress/uncompress.(1) I'm sure that there are other sources that report the same info. Please, consider xz as a possibility. It would

Re: [OSM-talk] WG: Emergency Access Points

2010-11-23 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:24:07 +0100 Lück, Michael wrote: > > Hi all, > > To simplfy the rescue of people in isolated areas (like forests). > Those points are tagged as highways with value > emergency_access_points. According to taginfo there are about 9000 of > these points > (http://wiki.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] South Pole?

2010-11-23 Thread Ed Loach
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 17:59 +0100, Rob wrote: > even more "polution" > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0.445&lon=-1.674&zoom=10&layers=M And Jon replied: > That has a different cause. Someone did upload data putting > buildings > here which have since been removed Except for this way, I think:

[OSM-talk] WG: Emergency Access Points

2010-11-23 Thread Lück , Michael
Hi all, To simplfy the rescue of people in isolated areas (like forests). Those points are tagged as highways with value emergency_access_points. According to taginfo there are about 9000 of these points (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Demergency_access_point) I really don't g