Re: [OSM-talk] xapi downage

2011-01-11 Thread 80n
It's running fine. There are a large volume of requests, the server is fully loaded, your requests may timeout. More hardware would help. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > It seems to be having the same problem again. Is there a better place > to report it than spammin

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM Fork] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
It's a monthly thing ...in OSM land lol .. smooth :) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Anthony wrote: > > The wiki is confusing, though. It puts highway=residential, > > highway=track, highway=service, and highway=pedestrian under the > > su

[OSM-talk] paths and roads and approval, oh my

2011-01-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Anthony wrote: > The wiki is confusing, though.  It puts highway=residential, > highway=track, highway=service, and highway=pedestrian under the > subcategory of "roads", but it puts highway=cycleway, highway=footway, > and highway=bridleway under the subcategory

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:59 PM, David Murn wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:39 -0500, Anthony wrote: > >> > So, while 'road' may mean a tarred bit of bitumen in the UK, and it >> > means something passable by a vehicle in Australia, in the OSM context >> > it means an unknown classification, tem

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:39 -0500, Anthony wrote: > > So, while 'road' may mean a tarred bit of bitumen in the UK, and it > > means something passable by a vehicle in Australia, in the OSM context > > it means an unknown classification, temporarily tagged until the > > required re-survey is comple

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:54 PM, David Murn wrote:> > Well, I dunno/care about what the definition is in every state, but the > definition of highway=road in the OSM wiki (since I believe we're all > talking about OSM here, and not some other localised schema): > > >From highway=road: >> A road of

Re: [OSM-talk] xapi downage

2011-01-11 Thread Nathan Edgars II
It seems to be having the same problem again. Is there a better place to report it than spamming this list? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 Anthony : > The more important question is what the tag means.  Or is highway=road > a tag which has a different definition in every state? highway=road is a way that seemed to be OK for travelling in an aerial photo, it can be all kinds of OSM-highways. cheers, Martin ___

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 Pieren : > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:04 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> will be unpaved: there is cobblestone, surface=asphalt, >> > > Excuse the stupidity of my question, but what is the difference between > 'paved' and 'asphalt' ? it's different concepts: paved doesn't tell yo

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 23:01 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > David Murn wrote: > > Now, maybe Im off the mark here, but it > > sounds like that is *EXACTLY* the outcome we want when mass changing > > tags, > > We are not going to mass-change tags. 'we' being who? Are you speaking on behal

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 08:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > David Murn wrote: >> >> Now, maybe Im off the mark here, but it >> sounds like that is *EXACTLY* the outcome we want when mass changing >> tags, > > We are not going to mass-change tags. If the reason is good enough, eg the flow control thr

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, David Murn wrote: Now, maybe Im off the mark here, but it sounds like that is *EXACTLY* the outcome we want when mass changing tags, We are not going to mass-change tags. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" __

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 10:13 -0500, Anthony wrote: > > Sure, but if you read you will notice that I was specifically answering > > a question about what that would be called in the UK, not what it would > > be called in Australia. > > The more important question is what the tag means. Or is highwa

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Bullock
FWIW I've now replaced several occurrences of highway=unsurfaced in the UK (thanks to Steve's very timely rendering), starting in areas I know personally (West Oxfordshire and Rutland), and not a single one would be described as a road in the UK. I added some several years ago. I've changed some

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 05:46, wrote: > Nashville, Tennessee, USA, where I live, was hit by severe flooding on May 1 > and May 2, 2010, and not only had roads wash out, but some railway tracks as > well. The flood was later classified as a thousand-year flood (meaning, not > likely to occur more t

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Milo van der Linden
My home address is at a highway=track going to access=private a little further on: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.633745&lon=5.301177&zoom=18&layers=M On Aruba, my other area of mapping, I also use tracktype=grade1 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.48251&lon=-69.9788&zoom=16&layers=M (

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
Nashville, Tennessee, USA, where I live, was hit by severe flooding on May 1 and May 2, 2010, and not only had roads wash out, but some railway tracks as well. The flood was later classified as a thousand-year flood (meaning, not likely to occur more than once in a thousand years). ---Orig

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
> http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/gallery-fn7ik2te-1225983067381?page=90 Here's another example: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/gallery-fn7ik2te-1225983067381?page=117 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 10/01/2011 18:52, Richard Fairhurst wrote: A cursory glance suggests Britain appears to have more highway=unsurfaced than other places, and even then there aren't that many. I will happily fix 200 of them _properly_ (i.e. with what the track actually is, not the cop-out of highway=road) if so

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 11/01/2011 17:57, DavidD wrote: The mapnik layer already renders highway=track;surfaced=paved as a solid line and highway=track;surface=unpaved as a dashed line. An example http://osm.org/go/eutNf8ah-- That is rendering the different tracktype tags (grade1/grade2 etc), not the surface tag

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread DavidD
On 11 January 2011 17:06, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Try playing with Maperitive, or Osmarender, or Mapnik, or Halcyon, or > whatever, to have a go at rendering it yourself. Keep playing until you've > got something that looks simple, intuitive and neat. When you've got this > really great renderi

Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-11 Thread john
A common settlement pattern in the USA, in rural communities that have mostly or entirely developed since the invention of the automobile, is to have houses and small businesses strung out along a highway. You end up with a community that can be several miles long, and yet only a hundred feet o

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 03:25, wrote: > Is there a tag for marking a section of road as deteriorated, rutted or > washed out? There needs to be a range of values, as the severity can range > from merely requiring you to slow down, to rendering the road completely > impassable (as when a flood resu

Re: [OSM-talk] address parsing by nominatim

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 Stephen Hope : > 2011/1/10 ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) : >> I used hamlet for my block as pop limit of <1000 is given = satisfied > > The problem here is that population is only part of the definition of > a hamlet. Less than 1000 people is correct, but it also has an > implied "and is surro

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
Is there a tag for marking a section of road as deteriorated, rutted or washed out? There needs to be a range of values, as the severity can range from merely requiring you to slow down, to rendering the road completely impassable (as when a flood results in a washout several meters deep, with

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread john
This convention of using a dotted line to indicate an unsurfaced road is also standard practice in the USA. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved >From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Tue Jan 11 10:40:49 America/Chicago 2011 On 11 January 2011 23:51, Ric

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 03:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > yes, I agree that it would be nice to have a different rendering for > roads based on their surface. This is not completely trivial though: > there is also another tag regarding the surface: smoothness. Somehow Except you could quite easily t

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Asztalos Attila wrote: > On 11-Jan-2011 15:51, Richard Mann wrote: >> Which is not to say that knowing which roads are cobbled >> wouldn't be handy sometimes (but I probably think of this >> as something you need to render for yourself (cue ad for >> Maperitive...)) > > I certainly see the meri

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/11 John Smith : > There is a lot of public unsurfaced roads in Australia, some are > graveled, some are black soil and you don't both using them in the wet > without a 4wd etc. > > These usually show on maps as dashed lines, rather than solid lines, > rather than messing with the colour. y

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 January 2011 23:51, Richard Mann wrote: > Is it public access, or is it owned privately? I ask because there is > a strong correlation between public roads and decent maintenance where > I come from. And as it happens, Mapnik does show access=private. > > (the general problem with rendering

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Asztalos Attila
On 11-Jan-2011 15:51, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Asztalos Attila wrote: As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar is present). Is it public access, or is it

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 11/01/11 11:05, David Murn wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:47 +, Tom Hughes wrote: >>> On 10/01/11 19:00, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: >>> American usage would be to refer to that as a road, just not a very high-quality road.

Re: [OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Asztalos Attila wrote: > As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays > surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar > is present). Is it public access, or is it owned privately? I ask because there is

[OSM-talk] surface=unpaved

2011-01-11 Thread Asztalos Attila
Hi all As far as I can tell neither the mapnik nor the osmarender basemap displays surface information/modifiers (ie. if a tag like surface=unpaved or similar is present). Now I can definitely see how this is not an issue in large parts of the world, urban roads just being paved (as they are

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Tom Hughes
On 11/01/11 11:05, David Murn wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:47 +, Tom Hughes wrote: >> On 10/01/11 19:00, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: >> >>> American usage would be to refer to that as a road, just not a very >>> high-quality road. I take it that, in Britain, there are certain minimum >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Murn wrote: > Crikey, dont let them see the Old Eyre Highway across southern > Australia, or the Outback Highway[1] across Central Australia. > Together over 3000km of highly travelled road, connecting the > western coast of the country to the central/eastern regions. Just goes to show the

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:47 +, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 10/01/11 19:00, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: > > > American usage would be to refer to that as a road, just not a very > > high-quality road. I take it that, in Britain, there are certain minimum > > standards for being called a road? > >

[OSM-talk] Address in nominatim and is_in tag

2011-01-11 Thread Raphaël Pinson
Hello, I have tagged the following suburb: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1038274011 Nominatim doesn't restrict it to the admin_level 8 in which the node is situated: http://open.mapquestapi.com/nominatim/v1/details.php?place_id=127750725 To fix this, I have tried adding an is_in tag w

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-11 Thread Steve Chilton
Serious about changing highway=unsurfaced? In response to Richard's suggestion I have rendered where they occur in England: http://steve8.dev.openstreetmap.org/unsurfacedENG.png I am currently rendering a tile set (down to about z10) to help identify exact locations. These will be uploaded to a se