Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread Jo
2011/2/7 Peter Wendorff : > Hi ant. > The tool is great, but it would be even greater to have the specific zoom > level availlable instead of "14 or more". > 14 may be a threshold of useability in many areas, but for other purposes > even 17, 18 or 19 may be the treshold (e.g. mapping of sidewalks,

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Matthias Meißer
Come on folks, it's not that a big problem. Now let's close the thread and see what will come witin the next weeks on the wiki side. good night Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > So if you don't know, put a FIXME there. It's what we do on the map. Good suggestion. Could I also suggest that if you think someone's change has lots of problems, instead of rolling it back with an offensive commit comment, you could: 1)

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2011-02-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 8 December 2010 11:14, David Murn wrote: > Once all the licence issues are resolved and we know whether projects > will be forked or our data removed, then Ill start dumping all my edits > back in.  Ive also tried working on parts of New Zealand, but have come > up against a brick wall as there

[OSM-legal-talk] mapquest open aerial tiles

2011-02-07 Thread John S Gruber
While the mapquest open aerial tiles aren't mentioned in the wiki as being ok to trace over, josm has them as an available layer. Are these images ok to trace over? They are newer in my area than the others. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openst

Re: [OSM-talk] osm new zealand website and community launch

2011-02-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7 February 2011 17:11, Richard Weait wrote: >> How do i get meetings included in the wiki front page? > > 1) Log in to the wiki.  The wiki account is separate from your api account. > 2) Add your event to the wiki calendar.  [1] > > > [1] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Templat

Re: [OSM-talk] osm new zealand website and community launch

2011-02-07 Thread Claudius
Am 07.02.2011 04:43, Robin Paulson: Hi all, OSM New Zealand have recently launched their website, and announced meetings beginning this month: http://www.openstreetmap.org.nz/ The Wiki link on that should be fixed to point to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NZ Currently it's targeting http

[OSM-talk] Travel Discounts to SotM 2011

2011-02-07 Thread Coast, Hurricane
Hi, I have been working on a relationship with United Airlines to attain travel discounts for people flying to Denver for SotM in September. Woohoo! I have started a wiki page here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2011_SotM_Travel_Discounts Please add your name (and user name) to this pag

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread ant
On 07.02.2011 17:36, Peter Wendorff wrote: Hi ant. The tool is great, but it would be even greater to have the specific zoom level availlable instead of "14 or more". That seems to be what most people wish to see. I'll work on that. cheers ant ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi ant. The tool is great, but it would be even greater to have the specific zoom level availlable instead of "14 or more". 14 may be a threshold of useability in many areas, but for other purposes even 17, 18 or 19 may be the treshold (e.g. mapping of sidewalks, mapping of street lanterns ;) (

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:02 AM, ant wrote: > Can you give an example of a zoom 20 region? I'd like to have a look. http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=39.294169460227224&lon=-94.71799114942492&zoom=20 ___ talk mailing list talk@ope

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/7 ant : > Can you give an example of a zoom 20 region? I'd like to have a look. http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=41.8901512469295&lon=12.492339797131855&zoom=20 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/7 Toby Murray : > Well the jump from 13 to 14 is a pretty big milestone for aerial > imagery. You go from rough blobs to distinguishable features. So that > does make sense. > > But yeah, all of the US is just going to be solid green with this > definition. Maybe a red/yellow/green scheme? R

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread ant
On 07.02.2011 16:48, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Yes, I agree that more colours could clarify this. Currently, all areas in Italy seem to be green, where some of the ones I checked offer resolutions up to zoom 17 (not quite the very best imagery imaginable) and others up to 20 (absolutely sufficie

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread Toby Murray
Well the jump from 13 to 14 is a pretty big milestone for aerial imagery. You go from rough blobs to distinguishable features. So that does make sense. But yeah, all of the US is just going to be solid green with this definition. Maybe a red/yellow/green scheme? Red means http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/7 ant : >> What is your definition of "hires"? > the definition of "hires" used in this application is "imagery is available > at zoom level 14 or more". If you compare coverage areas linked to on the > wiki page, you'll see that almost all of them correspond to that definition. > > I'm awar

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread ant
Hi Toby, On 07.02.2011 16:21, Toby Murray wrote: What is your definition of "hires"? Zooming in on my city shows green where I would consider the imagery to be decent but nothing spectacular. (I think it is mostly just USGS ~1m imagery reused by Bing) the definition of "hires" used in this app

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread Toby Murray
What is your definition of "hires"? Zooming in on my city shows green where I would consider the imagery to be decent but nothing spectacular. (I think it is mostly just USGS ~1m imagery reused by Bing) Nice bit of code though. Toby On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM, ant wrote: > Hi, > > I have n

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matthias Meißer wrote: > well your theorem on getting all with one shot is great, but this > doesn't work for me. Things (esp. on the wiki) are to large to do it > in one step. So if you don't know, put a FIXME there. It's what we do on the map. cheers Richard -- View this message in contex

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Matthias Meißer
Hi Richard, well your theorem on getting all with one shot is great, but this doesn't work for me. Things (esp. on the wiki) are to large to do it in one step. I setup the attributes with the best I can find out within 5minutes. Cause it's on our SVN I expected it to be GPL. As all on the wi

[OSM-talk] Bing coverage

2011-02-07 Thread ant
Hi, I have noticed mappers make various attempts to map coverage of Bing high resolution imagery. Some drawed areas around the imagery and stuffed them into relations, others created xml files etc. etc. (see the wiki page [1]) I thought that a world coverage map wasn't feasible with those meth

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matthias Meißer wrote: > Sorry for the mistake, but as everybody knows, this can happen, even > if you fight alone against a dozen of wikipages ;) Anything I say here will only get me into trouble so I better not. :) > But I don't see why did you removed the template completely instead > of fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: > >We wouldn't tolerate anything so disconnected from reality on the map, > Yes, we'd fix it. Up to a point. We have scarce resources. We don't have enough mappers and we _certainly_ don't have enough developers.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Matthias Meißer
Hi Richard, sorry didn't followed the discussion till this moment. Well yes I'm the guy that added the template to the page :) Sorry for the mistake, but as everybody knows, this can happen, even if you fight alone against a dozen of wikipages ;) But I don't see why did you removed the templat

[OSM-talk] Wiki editing (was Re: (magical?) road detector)

2011-02-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > potlatch-dev@ list and ask for assistance. But this kind of "oh, let's just > put some unchecked info up" is why so many people disregard the wiki these > days. We wouldn't tolerate anything so disconnected from reality on the map, > and n