Re: [OSM-talk] A proposal to improve relation handling

2011-08-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/23/11 06:53, Nathan Edgars II wrote: (Note that I am not a coder and the rather rude response to 'write a patch' will get you nowhere.) If you cannot write code yourself, there's always the option of finding someone else who does it for you ;) 1. Handle conflicts better. Treat th

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:10 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Can we get some feedback from different countries whether walking is > permitted on cycleways? At least in Germany and Italy it is > (officially) forbidden. > I'm surprised you don't know this wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:10 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Can we get some feedback from different countries whether walking is > permitted on cycleways? At least in Germany and Italy it is > (officially) forbidden. There are extremely few where there is not a footway alongside, even in German

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:42:27 +0100, Richard Mann wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:10 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Can we get some feedback from different countries whether walking is permitted on cycleways? At least in Germany and Italy it is (officially) forbidden. There are extremely few

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/23 Pieren : > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > I'm surprised you don't know this wiki page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions Thank you Pieren, I didn't think about this page. The page states that the international default

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/23 Richard Mann : > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:10 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> Can we get some feedback from different countries whether walking is >> permitted on cycleways? At least in Germany and Italy it is >> (officially) forbidden. > > There are extremely few where there is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[cc:ed to tagging@, suggest follow-ups go there] Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > +1, in Germany or Italy you will hardly find any place where a > pedestrian can't pass but a cyclist can. There will be either a > combined or segregated foot/cycleway instead of a bicycles only > cycleway. On the contra

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality reports of non EU area

2011-08-23 Thread Matthias Meisser
Thanks for your work John! I need to take a clother view if I have a bit more time for that. Well I guess what Jaakko says is partly true. Mssive Data (see e.g. the fat imports) doesn't show up how good (here lively) the quality of the data is. thats why I personaly like OSMatrix as you can analys

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality reports of non EU area

2011-08-23 Thread John Harvey
If you are looking for an aesthetic metric for quality, you are probably looking for a human to evaluate quality. I would argue that most of the cities in North America (save Boston and maybe Toronto) quality is poor because there just isn't enough content. New York is a wicked example of no

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Robert Kaiser
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: The page states that the international default for cycleway is foot=no. Single countries according to this page where pedestrians are forbidden on cycleways are: Austria, France and Germany (Italy is not listed). Not that people here in Austria would really care: I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I could see some benefit to splitting the tag into two - say, > highway=cycle for "bikes only", highway=cycle+foot for "bikes and > pedestrians" - and doing (whisper it) a mass change along country lines. But then you lose the distinctio

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Russ Nelson
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > Australia, UK and the USA (probably the other commonwealth countries > as well) generally allow the use. Generally but not always. Suicides nearly always happen on the east (city) side of the Golden Gate Bridge. It's not because the view of the city makes people mor

Re: [OSM-talk] Combined bicycle & footway

2011-08-23 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Fairhurst writes: > Consequently which you use basically depends on whether you, or the > author of the tools/documentation you use, read the wiki before or > after. There's documentation?? I've just been tagging everything highway=fairhurst. Hope that wasn't wrong, KTHXBYE. -- --my b