Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 4 November 2012 02:06, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday, November 3, 2012, Ian Sergeant wrote: >> >> On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local >>> knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your

Re: [OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Jeff Meyer
Arnie - I'm hoping OSMAnd answers your mail. If it doesn't, you may want to compare your Leaflet work with what the guys on osm-railsdev/osm-website have been doing integrating Leaflet recently. You may be able to offload some of your maintenance to what they've been working on, and share any nifty

[OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday, November 3, 2012, Ian Sergeant wrote: > On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> >> Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local >> knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your brain >> and you have actually been there, but can't reme

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Cartinus
The wiki says: > If you find any acts Vandalism or illegal copying from sources and > the user does not respond to messages you can contact the Data > Working Group on the e-mail address d...@osmfoundation.org. You are now proposing to skip the "messaging the user" part and replacing it with assu

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 03/11/2012 21:31, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > >> I am pretty sure that in most of these cases, users are copying from >> Google Maps or Google Street View and the data should be deleted. In many >> cases, the infringing data is something like a

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Steve Doerr
On 03/11/2012 21:31, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: I am pretty sure that in most of these cases, users are copying from Google Maps or Google Street View and the data should be deleted. In many cases, the infringing data is something like a road name. I'm pretty sure that Google have actually said

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > On 03.11.2012 19:25, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: >> >> Is copying from Google search acceptable anyway? > > I say yes. Even this is inferior mapping like any kind of armchair mapping. > > Let's assume one enters website addresses and phone number

Re: [OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Nelson
Arnie Shore writes: > We have the basics working with Leaflet and locally-stored tile sets; a > JS boolean sends the software to pull tiles from OSM. I'm aware of > concerns re the latter, and we'll certainly honor those. Have you looked at OSMAnd? It's an Android application which uses down

[OSM-talk] Newish Kid on This Block

2012-11-03 Thread Arnie Shore
Hello all. Let me tell you a bit re what I'm doing (he sez, as though he really knows!) and invite suggestions. We have a free open source computer-aided dispatch application, targeted to teams/agencies with zero budgets for software of this nature, or who find that their needs just aren't met

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 04/11/12 07:24, Paul Johnson wrote: Would it be acceptable to use Street View to aid your memory of local knowledge of the ground truth? Something that's on the tip of your brain and you have actually been there, but can't remember what a specific sign said? Next time, write it down o

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > > As you mentioned StreetView: Using it to create a database is likely a > violation of their TOS and OSM does not want this practice. > > In which way Google could have copyright or database rights on factual > data derived from their imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy - 23. -25.11.

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm trying to organize one in the Tulsa area, using this Google eventto organize and promote it. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Matthias Meißer wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'd like to announce the fellow of the "night of the living

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 03.11.2012 19:25, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Is copying from Google search acceptable anyway? I say yes. Even this is inferior mapping like any kind of armchair mapping. Let's assume one enters website addresses and phone numbers of restaurants. Tagging phone= and website=. You are not copyi

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
> I strongly suggest to contact DWG and not try to do some clean-up action on > your own. > > How certain are you that the source tag refers to the coordinate? Culd also > be the phone number of a shop found by a google search, right? > Each of these occurences has to be checked and the mapper cont

[OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy - 23. -25.11.

2012-11-03 Thread Matthias Meißer
Hi everybody, I'd like to announce the fellow of the "night of the living maps" party: "Operation cowboy" : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy Guess what, this time it's about mapping the US :) The date is the weekend from 23.11 till Sunday, so everybody should have a chance

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 03.11.2012 00:14, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: From the dates, it looks like most of those are from the Haiti earthquake tracing, when Google allowed OSM to use its imagery for tracing. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Hait