Re: [OSM-talk] OSM.org rendering and features [was Re: The Proposed Great Colour Shift]

2015-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > We have very uncomfortable situation with rendering styles on our main > website: out of 5 styles available only 2 are general, and only one - > default one - is to some reasonable extent an OSM community effort > (technically it's open, in pra

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 17:24, Tom MacWright wrote: > It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity. http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/OSM+Development Not that I've got all the latest crib sheets working yet :( Last system I had fully functional was on an SUSE 12.3 -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ---

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Tom MacWright
It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 25/08/15 16:29, Tom MacWright wrote: > > All of the resources you linked, you can improve! > > > > * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm > > * > https://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 16:29, Tom MacWright wrote: > All of the resources you linked, you can improve! > > * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm > * > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guide&action=edit > * > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Editing_Standards_and_C

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot
On 8/25/2015 5:29 PM, Tom MacWright wrote: Hi Lester, All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm * Here is the ticket I just created for learnosm, and if I can get the site updated soon'ish I will, because it does matter to me :) https://githu

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 25/08/2015, Blake Girardot wrote: > But in general if you want to map from scratch, make a new layer, map, > merge layers, replace geometry, done, history retained and you mapped > from scratch. I wonder if JOSM could do that automatically. Before uploading, JOSM would look at all objects dele

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Tom MacWright
Hi Lester, All of the resources you linked, you can improve! * https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guide&action=edit * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Editing_Standards_and_Conventions&action=edit You should fix these

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Lester Caine
On 25/08/15 15:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Because 'it's easier to delete and start >> > again' is encouraged rather than 'preserve the history of development' >> > where someone HAS already spent the time doing that in the past so much >> > is being lost! > > can you expand on this? Where a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-25 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 25/08/2015, Blake Girardot wrote: > I am not a railway enthusiast, but I do recognize the important role > they play in the development and landscape of the US and probably other > countries. > > I really appreciate those who map in-use, disused and abandoned > railways, thank you for adding im

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot
Retaining the history is the most respectful thing you can do for mappers but I have seen a lot of new'ish mappers who feel that just deleting and starting over is easier. In JOSM the "replace geometry" function can be used and it will retain the history and lets you "map from scratch" and

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-25 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 24/08/2015, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > cycle.travel's rendering is 1300 lines of CartoCSS, 1400 of .mml, 300 lines > of Lua preprocessing, and 350 lines of Ruby/PostGIS postprocessing. > > Of this, the code required to show only operational railways is 100 > characters - a rounding error. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Preserving History ...

2015-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 24.08.2015 um 10:05 schrieb Lester Caine : > > Because 'it's easier to delete and start > again' is encouraged rather than 'preserve the history of development' > where someone HAS already spent the time doing that in the past so much > is being lost! can you expand on

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot
On 8/21/2015 8:51 PM, Gregory Arenius wrote: The OSM community is what OSM is even more than it is a map. People that are passionate about railways are a part of that community and they do contribute a lot, especially in the US where we don't have as many mappers. They pour lots of time and l

[OSM-talk] Fwd: announcement: hackathon at the Monza F1 racing circuit on October 29-30, 2015

2015-08-25 Thread Andrea Giacomelli
[apologies for multiple postings] Hi - please see the link below: a) http://www.pibinko.org/are-you-a-developer-come-to-the-connected-automobiles-2015-hackathon-in-monza-october-29-30/ Registrations open on September 15. b) If you have any questions about the general organization of the event,

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-25 Thread phil
On Tue Aug 25 09:12:15 2015 GMT+0100, Jo wrote: > For what it's worth, I'm in favour of tagging dismantled railways as > > railway=dismantled +1 > > Even if it does pass through newly built buildings. -1 I passionately believe dismantled railways should both be in openstreetmap and be rendered

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-25 Thread Jo
For what it's worth, I'm in favour of tagging dismantled railways as railway=dismantled Even if it does pass through newly built buildings. Polyglot 2015-08-25 9:52 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, moltonel 3x Combo > wrote: > >> On 22/08/2015, John Eldredge wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 22/08/2015, John Eldredge wrote: > > So, if you are looking for a route without steep grades, a former > > railway is a natural choice. > > Do people actually do this ? Yes, I do. > It sounds like a strawman argument to me. > I d