Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: > Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim > searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? > > For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where > I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I s

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: > >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > > > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I > >>happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks"

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Simon Poole
Sigh, this could easily be the silliest thread ever on talk. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Parameters In general for POI search in an area I would suggest using OverPass/OverPass Turbo (note however that this has the same issue as a bounded Nominatim POI search in that it will

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:34, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I >>happen to know a mapped Starbucks e

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-12-14 9:25 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > To make a long story short: it's a tagging error. The wikipedia tag > should contain only links to wikipedia pages describing the object > not to pages about the operator. > +1, to tag the operator the key operator:wikipedia (or wikidata) can be used

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-12-14 09:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to kno

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:37:42AM +0100, Simon Poole wrote: > Sigh, this could easily be the silliest thread ever on talk. > > See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Parameters > > In general for POI search in an area I would suggest using > OverPass/OverPass Turbo (note however that t

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-12-14 10:04 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > If you type in 'Starbucks' in the search box, then you just get > objects named that way. No difference with searching for, say Berlin. > > Now, if you type 'cafes' in the search box, then you are probably > looking for all amenity=cafe and that is a P

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Hi, I think that we can add an option to bound the results to the current viewport. That option would be passed to nominatim or any other search engine. Personally, I would prefer the search bounded by default, but users could change it to "everywhere" to see additional results. Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Colin Smale
It would be nice to have some shades of grey in there, like a choice of radius, e.g. within 1km, 10km, 100km, 1000km On 2015-12-14 13:43, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > Hi, > > I think that we can add an option to bound the results to the current > viewport. That option would be passed to nominat

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Colin Smale
Could there also be sorting options for the result set? For example by distance (nearest first), importance (the current algorithm?), ... And how about filters to show what you are looking for: returning places, POIs, roads, ... //colin On 2015-12-14 13:43, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread John Goodman
> To make a long story short: it's a tagging error. The wikipedia tag > should contain only links to wikipedia pages describing the object > not to pages about the operator. Sorry, I'm with Maarten on this: it's a programming error. I've tried searching on plenty of common stores and businesses

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Marc Zoutendijk
> Op 14 dec. 2015, om 10:00 heeft Maarten Deen het volgende > geschreven: > > In the Netherlands there is one Starbucks I believe (Schiphol Airport) and > even standing at that location does not return it in the search. I’m in no way connected to Starbucks, but your statement is far from true

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/12/15 09:00, Maarten Deen wrote: > IMHO it is a programming error on the account of importance. No amount > of importance could be so great that local results get flooded and > pushed down so much in importance. > In the Netherlands there is one Starbucks I believe (Schiphol Airport) > and ev

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Goodman wrote: > And if its searching facility is braindead Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something that lots of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". Thank you. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Nominat

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread John Goodman
Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something that lots of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". No offense meant; it just seemed an apt term for a search algorithm that favors matches 15,000 km away from one right in the area of obvious interest. As an

[OSM-talk] How does one tag a business that closed and was replaced by something else?

2015-12-14 Thread Andrew Wiseman
Hi, In this case, two businesses closed and were replaced by a single business that took over both buildings (they are adjoining.) How should I tag this? I didn't see anything about closed: or former: on the wiki. Thanks, Andrew -- 600,000 DC residents don't have a vote in Congress -- http://

Re: [OSM-talk] How does one tag a business that closed and was replaced by something else?

2015-12-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I usually just either replace the tags of the node with the info for the new business (example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1400581558/history) , or in your case, the tags of the buildings. Perhaps merge the buildings also if they are functionally one structure? On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:2

Re: [OSM-talk] How does one tag a business that closed and was replaced by something else?

2015-12-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:18:41 -0500 Andrew Wiseman wrote: > Hi, > > In this case, two businesses closed and were replaced by a single > business that took over both buildings (they are adjoining.) How > should I tag this? I didn't see anything about closed: or former: on > the wiki. > > Thanks,

Re: [OSM-talk] How does one tag a business that closed and was replaced by something else?

2015-12-14 Thread Lester Caine
On 14/12/15 17:18, Andrew Wiseman wrote: > In this case, two businesses closed and were replaced by a single > business that took over both buildings (they are adjoining.) How should > I tag this? I didn't see anything about closed: or former: on the wiki. If the units are individually identified

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim is awesome

2015-12-14 Thread michael spreng
On 14/12/15 18:14, John Goodman wrote: >> Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something >> that lots >> of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". > > No offense meant; it just seemed an apt term for a search algorithm > that favors matches 15,000 km away from o

[OSM-talk] Changeset Revert Request

2015-12-14 Thread Steve Doerr
I spotted this on the Malaysia forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=566307 . Here's the extent of the damage: https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=35942702 . Can anyone assist? -- Steve --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://ww

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Neil Pilgrim
Would it not simply be sufficient to list viewport results at the top, ie having a 'local' and 'global' list? Possibly in a small 'tree' view, in the sense of being able to hide 'local' and 'global' matches separately? (eg little triangles rotating to indicate if they're shown) Selecting other thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset Revert Request

2015-12-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/14/2015 11:05 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: > Can anyone assist? Dealing with it now. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetma

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Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 Thread Dave F.
On 14/12/2015 08:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Some helpful person has put a wikipedia link to the Starbucks wikipedia page on every single Starbucks in Japan. That's what throwing off Nominatim. Having a wikipedia page boosts the importance of an object. Have you considered that the program is ov