[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #508 2020-04-07-2020-04-13

2020-04-19 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 508, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13066/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i

[OSM-talk] Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:manhole=telecom   in the united states this is not what it is called, so it was hard for me to find to use.   can the name be changed.   https://www.multicominc.com/product/pencell-pem-2436-24x36x24-buried-cable-enclosure/   to what it is ?    _

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread François Lacombe
Hi To me there are two separate concepts : * The enclosure : the underground chamber hosting several equipment including cable splices * The manhole : The way technicians get into the enclosure. For smaller ones, the manhole has the same dimension than enclosure but there are bigger ones where hu

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Dear 80hnhtv4agou, As OpenStreetMap is a worldwide project, we have to agree on a tagging scheme for an object that is worldwide comprehensible. We prefer to use the same tag for the same kind of thing. Thus we prefer not to introduce synonyms or regional variations. To make a feature be found

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
 this is an enclosure  just put in the ground, level 3 fiber. https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/mapillary.private.images/4KIBU1qe2CfjtcKtPHegeg/uploaded.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAR47SN3BMII5SHG7V&Expires=1587328637&Signature=8%2FzNiW16zbU9FjWy0JD17cNwIns%3D https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/install/Mi

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread François Lacombe
To me, manhole applies in the two situations. We should make a distinction between the "cap" visible from the surface and the facility underground. Same shape of "cap" (I call it the manhole actually) can hide really different kind of stuff underground you won't be able to define without removing

[OSM-talk] New diary: 10 years of French power transmission network mapping

2020-04-19 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, This link to look back at 10 years of mapping of French power transmission network https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/InfosReseaux/diary/392777 OSM demonstrates a large potential to improve official opendata and bring valuable data back to operators. Official opendata brings real situatio

Re: [OSM-talk] New diary: 10 years of French power transmission network mapping

2020-04-19 Thread Christine Karch
Chapeau and thank you for that interesting work and the documentation! Am 20.04.20 um 00:25 schrieb François Lacombe: > Hi all, > > This link to look back at 10 years of mapping of French power > transmission network > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/InfosReseaux/diary/392777 > > OSM demonstr

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
I am trying to say the tag page is wrong, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:manhole=telecom the picture is a fiber optics splice enclosure not a manhole https://www.multicominc.com/product/pencell-pem-2436-24x36x24-buried-cable-enclosure/ https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/install/Microtrenchin

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom

2020-04-19 Thread François Lacombe
Given problem is you argue with pictures showing what is under the cap. On the tag page picture - and on the ground - we can't say what is under and if a man can't get down a ladder into a room. I think all this stuff would require a formal proposal to discuss about vocabulary and have opinions of