Thank you to the board for listening to our appeal.
I look forward to collaborating on the next steps.
Heather
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020, 04:57 Allan Mustard,
wrote:
> To the OSM and OSMF communities:
>
> I convey the following information on behalf of the Board of Directors of
> the OpenStreetMap F
I wholeheartedly support an enforceable Code of Conduct for the mailing
lists and other global OSM spaces. I'm not going to write 3,000 words on
this. Others have already made these points. But for the sake of adding one
more female voice to this thread, plain and simple:
- Violent language is not
The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive North
American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project, building a
community of mappers from the whole world is our most important single
diversity objective. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t encourage other
un
Dec 10, 2020, 22:46 by matkoni...@tutanota.com:
> (3)
> If girls are from young age discouraged from being interested in
> maps/geography/volunteering/etc then it is going to help
> in lower participation in projects for people interested in maps.
>
"If girls are from young age discouraged from be
Dec 10, 2020, 20:58 by talk@openstreetmap.org:
> Underrepresentation of women and gender minorities, racial
> underrepresentation, geographic underrepresentation, these are all
> symptoms. If OSM did not systematically exclude these groups, these
> groups would not be underrepresented.
>
It is not
This whole thread caused me great distress on account of some messages I saw
that came across as
polarizing.
The reason I would be discouraged from joining OSM discussion right now would
be hostility and
passive aggressive bickering. And this is among people who I suppose all mean
the best for
First, let me say that I do know Frederik personally, I have had
pleasant dinners with him and hope to do so again post-pandemic. He
has apologised for his poor choice of words, and I accept his apology.
The volume of attacks and hostile tone against Celine in reaction to
the document she shared d
Niels, Arnalielsewhere post wasn't about mapping, the map is used to illustrate
something.
I agree with others comments pledging for more time to be taken to read someone
else's lines.
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arnalie faye vicario:
Hello/kumusta,
What an overwhelming response!
This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true grit to
join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and sparked the flame.
I will keep it short and redirect you to a (short
Hello everyone
Thank you for your answers.
And thanks for the supportive messages.
I will give a general response, trying to cover all the points that I can
extend, and trying to be clear despite my limited time and fluency in
English.
Above all, I would like you to become aware of the harshness
For a community to be resilient, resilient individuals are required. Those who
are offended by everything only contribute to lessening the resistance of the
community. Those who group by collectives only crush the first minority, the
individual. Meritocracy should be the form of government, and
That document is despicable, promoting discrimination of some groups
pretending to help others.
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:06:45 -0600
From: Celine Jacquin
To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org, talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic
Offens
Hello/kumusta,
What an overwhelming response!
This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true
grit to join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and
sparked the flame.
I will keep it short and redirect you to a (short) OSM Diary I wrote on
My bad. This was meant to HOT mailing list [1]. Sorry.
[1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2020-December/015409.html
jiri
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For the ones who are interested in the whole discussion:
- talk mailing list archive:
- https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085736.html
- osmf-talk mailing list archive:
-
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007541.html
-
http
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:54 AM Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
> Blake Girardot wrote:
> > I will just point out a common pattern:
>
> Céline posted an eloquent opening statement that talks about "this dominant
> profile" and the thread has, true to form, largely descended into the same
> dominant p
Blake Girardot wrote:
> I will just point out a common pattern:
Céline posted an eloquent opening statement that talks about "this dominant
profile" and the thread has, true to form, largely descended into the same
dominant profile arguing and "just pointing out" things.
It might therefore be i
> The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact.
>Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux
Communities and other Open Source/Open Data Communities.
Same in programming and IT fields, firefighters, mechanics, carpenters,
construction workers, taxi drivers, etc et
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 6:38 AM tilmanreinecke--- via talk
wrote:
>
> > The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact.
>
> Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux Communities
> and other Open Source/Open Data Communities.
>
> > The simplest explanation for this
> The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact.Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux Communities and other Open Source/Open Data Communities.> The simplest explanation for this is the systematic institutional hostility towards women in the OSM community.I did
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:22 AM Thomas Barris via osmf-talk
wrote:
> Why do you think such an OSM project as you want it is desirable for the
> majority of the community? I have signed up to this project to collect and
> share free geodata. I am not in favour of using OSM(F) for distributing th
@all,
I've posted a user diary about this, at
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/woodpeck/diary/395065, copied below
for your convenience.
Sorry / Bad choice of words
Posted by woodpeck on 10 December 2020 in English (English).
Hi,
I’ve recently got some flak about a maili
I have little new to offer that hasn't been posted in this thread before,
but would like to say that singling out Frederik and his supposedly
"dehumanizing message" as an offensive catalyst for a call to action? Not
cool.
I don't want to contribute to a cycle of outrage (though in some eyes I
prob
Hi Celine,
Thank you and your collaborators for taking the time to write this
document and thank you all for posting it to our community.
My greatest hope is that people will read it and really make an effort
to hear what you and others have been saying for a long time.
Hopefully, it keeps the m
Good morning
As Celine mentioned, we are a coalition of people who want change in OSMF
and OSM. Our statement clearly states that we are willing to work with OSMF
(working groups, board, membership) and OSM (community, project and
network). This means collaboration with the local chapters and comm
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