In the context of the tracks, there is always the risk that if you delete
something that you don't think should be there, that someone else re-maps
it because they see it in the aerial photo. (As we discussed.)
I guess the best is that we could detail a preferred approach (e.g. in
Australian
I don't know what causes it, but you can see the same problem with OSMR:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car=-34.9226%2C117.7915%3B-34.9670%2C117.8239#map=17/-34.96524/117.82097
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Practically, using this data would be difficult I think.
Partly because there is a lot of stuff already mapped. The other problem
is that I have found Councils' web sites are a bit optimistic about how
much of their planned cycling infrastructure actually exists. It's hard
to know what is "on
Just one thought on this:
The "use low gears" it not itself the hazard. It is the steep hill that is
the hazard (where the mitigation strategy for HGVs is to use low gears.
Same for rollover/sharp bend.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 10:38, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> Thank You Greame,
>
> The
My thoughts:
I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing
definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially
if 50% have a name.
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 14:24, Phil Wyatt wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Thoughts on 'named' EV chargers? Around
This very much differs by state.
In NSW by default it is not allowed (unless signpost as a shared path). I
assume Victoria is the same.
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> So, it would
Hi.
This page describes what to do if you are only mapping the camera (map it
on the highway)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera
This page describes what to do if you want to map both the device (e.g. on
the footpath), and also the point on the road where the camera
Hi.
This is a national route, rather than a state route, so we don't have that
problem.
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 14:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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>
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 13:37, Ben Kelley wrote:
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>>
>> I'm guessing more than one state has an A40.
atch the
> existing structure as closely as possible.
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> So, what do we all think is the best option for having, & showing, 2 lots
> of info for the same premises?
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Agreed.
In Australia "32A" refers to the street number.
(In the US, it is common that 32A means apartment A at street number 32,
but not in Australia)
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On 13/7/2022 11:55 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 at 11:43, Benjamin Ceravolo
wrote:
I feel
for the first three houses
> sharing the primary address site "50 Example St"."
>
> Is it accurate? Is addr:housenumber=1/50 the standard and preferred
> solution in such cases?
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Hi.
I'm not sure if this helps, but a "bus lane" allows buses, taxis,
bicycles and hire cars. A "bus only lane" allows only buses (not taxis
and hire cars). (Neither allow rental cars.)
The psv wiki page suggests tagging individual types if necessary, but
implies that a taxi is a PSV.
nces the 2 are equivalent.
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On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 09:06, Andrew Harvey
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> OSM never really had a good tag for truly shared foot/cycle paths, so it's
> been long standing practice to use highway=cycleway + foot=designated +
> bicycle=designated + segregated=no for shared
Maybe we should go ahead and request an
> >> Australia category now?
> > Sounds like a good idea.
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It needs attribution for the static map as well I think.
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On 18/2/22 15:55, Stéphane Guillou via Talk-au wrote:
Hi all
I just sent a message to NiceLocal.com.au about the copyright
requirements of OSM, because my understanding is that the static map
on their shop profiles
that will happen
automatically at some point.
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The list processor sorts out bounces.
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Hi Michael,
Gname.org moved to gmane.io almost a year ago. So the subscription
to x...@gname.org will never work again and should be deleted
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that this beach never has a lifeguard.
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On 20/10/21 09:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
A little while back, I put the emergency=lifeguard proposal through,
together with lifeguard=yes to describe those times when there is a
lifeguard/s on the beach, but they may not be in a fixed
copyright owner won't see it
that way.
There is more detail on the wiki at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright
Some government agencies give explicit permission for OSM to use their
data. Without explicit permission, this data cannot be used in OSM.
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 08
enstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway
>>>
>>> The query can be modified to search a wider area, but unfortunately
>>> overpass queries are not super simple (and I say this as a programmer of
>>> several years)
>>> Searching across a very large
ipway" you only find things with "slipway" in the name. You can't search
for "leisure=slipway" on the main map either.
Is there some other way to search for particular features?
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This me
nything
> out of the ordinary.
>
> https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Safety/Navigation-buoys-marks-and-beacons
>
> Have fun! (& what'd you get? :-))
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> Thanks
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> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 13:37, Ben Kelley wrote:
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>> I have recently moved close to
ted to say good to see someone else
> interested in sea mapping, I mapped a small bit of the Georges River in
> Sydney via kayak many years ago.
>
> On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 10:39, Ben Kelley wrote:
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>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm slowly mapping more and more buoys in my area.
s
here, so there are yellow buoys between the channel and the moorings.
Is anyone else into Open Sea Map? (We bought a boat last week :) )
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I would normally tag such roads (minor roads in rural areas) as
unclassified rather than residential.
I suspect there is not a lot of difference between residential and
unclassified though.
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> go into the Australian Tagging guidelines.
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Hi.
It seems pretty clear (to me at least) on the highway=motorway_junction
page that the junction node should not indicate the destination, but
rather on the way branching off. The examples show this situation.
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On 24/2/20 13:09, Ian Steer wrote:
What do people think about this
Some councils put up signs (often blue and white) indicating a cycle route.
It generally shows the destination, maybe how far to the destination,
and generally a picture of a bicycle. The sign might point to a road or
a path.
This is the best link I could find (sorry - big PDF, but it gives
Don't forget the blue and white signs!
Practically I'd map a lcn=yes tag (or relation) for blue & white signs.
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On 24/2/20 02:59, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote:
Is it possible that they are listing
roads with minor traffic, connecting
parts of real bicycle infrastructure?
I guess it makes it a bit hard when the underlying product disables the
attribution. Not that this excuses them though.
FWIW this is the bug report I created for Smile Map:
https://github.com/Smile-SA/magento2-module-map/issues/30
On 4/2/20 16:49, Phil Wyatt wrote:
Good on you – I have
So, with nothing better to do, I was checking if Kathmandu had updated
their web site to include the correct attribution for OSM. (no)
It seems they use Magento (an e-commerce platform) with Smile's Map add-in
for Magento. (https://github.com/Smile-SA/magento2-module-map) This in term
uses
I think our top speed was about 235km/h.
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On Sun., 5 Jan. 2020, 22:15 Graeme Fitzpatrick,
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> Very nice.
>
> What was it doing on the flat?
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I'm currently on a train in Germany. Slowed down to 130km/h for some bends.
The train wifi has a page showing you the train's location and speed, which
uses OSM.
Nice.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/iXbF3C7mNQKioeGq9
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That seems like a good idea. How will you know the bounds of the airport?
Just from aerial photos?
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 at 22:28, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) via Talk-au <
talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> We would like to manually add polygons around airports
Hi.
I noticed that Kathmandu's web site (the clothing retailer, rather than the
city in Nepal) uses OSM for their store locator, but it does not include
the correct copyright information. https://www.kathmandu.com.au/stores
I sent them some feedback on their web site to this effect, so I'll see
This seems like a good case where the road is being actively dismantled.
I think the only reason to keep it at all is where you can see the
ex-road in imagery, so you want people who are editing to know that this
thing doesn't actually exist.
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On 27/11/19 09:32, Warin wrote:
I would
At first I thought yes, but wheres.com (Sensis/Telstra) uses OSM, so I
guess it depends on what data they used.
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On 20/11/19 15:11, Warin wrote:
I have found a contributor who is using 'whereis' as a source. I
believe that is a copyright breach?
Anyone know .. I don't want to go
Looks good I think.
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On 9/10/19 11:55, Warin wrote:
Ok.. I think the following can be done on the Australian Tagging
Guidelines;
Remove the words "not map the interior private roads in detail" from
service roads
Hi.
A question of clarification:
Are you asking how to change the defaults when you yourself are editing?
Or are you wanting to raise a problem you see with the current defaults?
(This would seem to be a problem you perceive rather than a question.)
- Ben.
On Mon., 7 Oct. 2019, 10:05
Yeah agreed. If you added a FIXME, who would fix it?
If I see something like that, I generally make a note to myself to go back
and fix it later.
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 09:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are lots of fixmes on the map. They don't get fixed.
> If you
You are missing one need: It needs to be something that people will use.
For that reason, there are many ways to handle this, with the talk-au list
being one of those.
Some people use some of the other (existing) options for discussing OSM. A
mailing list has its advantages and disadvantages,
Hi.
A project I have been thinking about for a while is creating a map of
Anglican (church) parish boundaries in Australia.
In some sense these are like admin boundaries, but the source of the
boundary is not easily verifiable. While the resulting map would be based
on OSM, the data itself
Hi.
I would say yes. Include the name.
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On 13/6/19 12:36, David Wales wrote:
Dear Talk-AU,
Should frontage roads be tagged with names?
I have read the wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road
Consider this changeset:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset
Practically it will probably need to be a weekday evening, as we are not
open on the weekend.
Also it will need to be a time I can make it. :)
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On 18/3/19 13:03, Dion Moult wrote:
Hey Ben! Thanks for the option!
I'm going to tentatively suggest meeting this Saturday, 23rd
gate further.
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 16:58, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
> I'm interested in a local OSM I meetup, I wanted to organise one last
> year, but finding a venue provide too hard, so count me in if anyone want's
> to organise one. Could just be an informal meet pub meetu
I agree.
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 19:24, nwastra wrote:
> We seem to be getting a lot of business edits in this form lately with
> only a name and description tag, often with address details or just spam in
> the description tag.
> As is usual with spam like business edits, they use a
Hi.
So there are 2 issues (it seems): At what zoom does the road show, and
at what zoom does the name show?
Take for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-31.7211/150.4649
At this zoom no roads have names.
Zoom in to 12, and you see highway=unclassified roads that weren't
visible
Personally I think that's a handy warning.
- Ben
On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 07:25 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 22/01/19 02:45, Nemanja Bračko wrote:
>
> I agree on that, but that's the way how this tool works.
>
>
> So you will have to accept that the tool is wrong and ignore its
map while I'm on this
route? I am not currently aware of a single "route" / multi-line in the OSM
database that describes the Great North Walk.
I considered mapping the sign posts, but they are quite plenty and probably of
little benefit.
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> I've noticed over the past few years a National Cycle Network "creep"
> in Australia.
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at we feel is a main thoroughfare.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something, have others "fixed" this problem elsewhere?
>>>
>>> Jono
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I think that's some kind of location code. I forget what it's called. If
you search for that string in Google Maps it takes you to an address at
the Gold Coast.
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On 2/11/17 10:27, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
Thanks everyone for input - have gone with drinks:alcohol = BYO.
Now just a
To be honest, I don't think this is useful, but I guess that is up to
the mapper.
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On 30/10/17 14:04, Nick Hocking wrote:
If byo=yes, then it would be useful to know if corkage is charged, and
if so, how much.
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I can't see anything suitable on the amenity=restaurant page.
In some sense, I suspect this is a fairly Australian thing.
I wonder about a tag related to the service of alcohol at that
restaurant. e.g. the description for Restaurant says "A restaurant is a
place selling full meals served by
I agree. highway=motorway_junction is to mark where you exit the motorway.
An aside: Exits from the Hume Motorway/M5 have exit numbers now as you
approach Sydney.
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On 16 Sep 2017 4:58 p.m., "Andrew Harvey" wrote:
In Sydney there are a few named interchanges
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That sounds sensible.
In general I don't think a rest area should be tagged as a camp site.
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On 19/04/2017 08:54, Warin wrote:
Hi,
I have seen a few roadside 'rest areas' tagged in OSM as camp sites.
At least some of these are not suitable for pitching a tent .. so
Generally if it's graded I would put highway=unclassified.
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On 10 February 2017 at 10:51, Warren wrote:
> I have asked this question before but did not really get a clear answer.
>
> I am working off the Western Australian Main Roads data checking against
>
Just my 2c:
To the average map user, it seems that these are pretty much the same
thing. (Unincorporated areas and local government boundaries.)
While the technical definition is different, I'm not sure that matters
so much. The 2 don't physically overlap or intersect. I don't see any
Hi.
The remoteness doesn't need to change the definition of the place (e.g.
make a hamlet a town) but rather only change how it is rendered.
A very remote track might show, as might a remote hamlet.
I agree this might be difficult to implement in the renderer.
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Hi.
I thought natural=wood was for trees that had not been planted for the
purpose of forestry.
landuse=forest is where they were planted for forestry.
Use is not consistent. (If you harvest the natural trees, which one is it?)
See the Forest page on the wiki, but landcover=trees seems
NSW RMS web site says they are only for heavy vehicles in NSW.
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> > On 18/09/15 12:26, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> >> Currently in NSW point-to-point cameras are only used to
Hi.
Yes it's possible. I suspect someone created the way and forgot to add the
tags before saving.
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> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/3
with any street related to the address.
That is, it's probably better to let routing software infer the town,
rather than re-enter it for every address.
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On 14 Oct 2014 11:19, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
As far as routing
My experience is that surface can have descriptive values that don't
immediately indicate if the road is paved or not.
Things like asphalt (presuming paved=yes) and gravel (presuming
paved=no) are common.
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On 22 Sep 2014 09:24, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Tagging
Hi.
This sounds like a very good suggestion. Often you just want to know if the
road is paved.
It seems like that was the original intent of surface=, but that is not how
it gets used now.
How surface= implies paved= sounds good too.
- Ben.
On 21 Sep 2014 11:03, David Bannon
Hi.
I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it
marks where the name should go for the boundary.
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On Apr 30, 2014 12:11 AM, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote:
I noticed that as for many suburbs in SA, since I replaced the
place=suburb node previously
Thanks Ian. :-)
On Apr 30, 2014 7:31 AM, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote:
Admin_centre.
On 30 Apr 2014, at 6:11 am, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
I seem to remember there is a way to add the node to a relation so that it
marks where the name should go for the boundary
Hi.
My memory of the last abs import was that it was reasonably accurate, but
not always totally accurate.
As such it is definitely worth importing from a data quality point of view.
A way to deal with updates would be good though. Is there an ID that from
abs for the boundaries that could be
and ask.
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On 19 Jan 2014 14:01, Stéphane Guillou stephane.guil...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks everyone for your input.
I wonder what was the rationale behind using abbreviations for countries
and states as I understood that the database must be as human-readable as
possible
these boundaries to describe
addresses where they are present.
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On 20 Jan 2014 09:22, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19/01/2014 8:48 PM, Ben Kelley wrote:
Hi.
I think in Australia, as far as gazetted places go, suburb=town, but for
these, you can derive it if the suburb has an admin
to revert.
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On 2 Jan 2014 13:56, Peter Watson peter.bmwk7...@gmail.com wrote:
A new user has removed some large amount of shore line in the Hawkesbury
River Brooklyn area. The Hawkesbury River and Ku-ring-gai Chase National
Park relations are now broken. There is a lot of white now
Well done. Thanks for following it up.
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On 25 Jul 2013 16:19, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote:
I've now obtained permission and recorded it at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#South_Australian_Government_data
This is really very helpful as it allows
Hi.
I would run the main waterway=river way through the lake polygon, like you
run it through a riverbank polygon.
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On 12/06/2013 2:32 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au wrote:
Hi**
I am now starting work on rivers and streams but would like some guidance
Hi.
The new routes are supposed to be complete by the end of this year.
I know it takes me a while to get around to fixing something on OSM.
Perhaps if you are keen then approach 2 is OK (and signage will catch up
eventually). If you are lazy then 1 is the default. :)
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On 10
Hi.
I have seen a few A15 signs on the New England Highway, but there are still
quite a few 43 and 15 signs along the route. The ground can still be a bit
confusing.
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On 3 May 2013 15:08, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I've noticed a few people are changing
Hi.
Suburb can mean an area bounded by a gazetted boundary. There is a sense in
which town is similar to suburb, in the sense of how the boundary is
defined. I am pretty sure the UK is different in this regard.
I don't know if West Pymble is a gazetted suburb (I think yes), but it
would then
Thanks for that.
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On 17/12/2012 8:37 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Ben Kelley wrote:
Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared.
Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this?
I've reverted it. I'll send a polite
Hi.
Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared.
Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this?
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with whether some physical presence on the ground is required, as opposed
to I thought this might be a nice street to ride my bike down.
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Hi.
My 2c.
It seems like there are a few issues here:
1 - The current mapnik style does not identify unpaved roads at all.
2 - For an unpaved road, the quality of the surface can vary a lot, and it
would be good to have a way to tag this.
3 - Some roads require a 4WD. This can be a legal
Agreed. What Ian says. Use a route relation.
- Ben.
On Nov 8, 2012 9:18 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations
type=route
route=road
network=T
ref=number
Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of
You can change how mapnik renders by defining different styles for
different zooms.
Essentially with render hints you are saying that you would like this way
to look like a different type of way. If this does not map to some
verifiable attribute of the way then it becomes your preference.
to render
it as a different type of road.
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On Nov 1, 2012 3:01 PM, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone, have an idea about map rendering and want to get your
thoughts.
One of the challenges is in rendering a useful map for recreational use is
displaying roads, tracks
Hi.
Common usage is that surface=paved is any kind of sealed road including
asphalt.
- Ben Kelley
On Oct 24, 2012 9:23 AM, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi People
Sorry if this has already been stated, I have not mapped since the
licence change and I am only reading
Hi.
Yes just put multiple nodes.
E.g. petrol station that has a toilet.
- Ben.
On Oct 17, 2012 3:14 PM, dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
Hi folks, I have been fixing some of the errors that
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?schema=50error=38081608 tells us
about.
I note that at
another one that is not fixed yet:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routinglon=150.82846lat=-33.75053zoom=15
I haven't looked into that one yet, but I suspect one end of the road (or
both ends) is not connected to the surrounding streets.
It's quite a useful tool.
- Ben Kelley
about a school zone, but I don't think
there are any that could get this from OSM.
For now I preserve these tags if I am editing a way that has them, but I
don't add them if they are not there already.
- Ben Kelley.
On Aug 24, 2012 6:38 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/08/12
Hi.
Does anyone know a good way to find streets with no names? Potlatch no
longer has this option, and Cloudmade's noname map is not up to date.
Basically I'm trying to find any streets with no names in an area where
most streets have names.
- Ben Kelley
Oh actually OSM Inspector can show this. http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
Choose view Highways and check boxes as appropriate.
- Ben.
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On Aug 20, 2012 9:52 AM, Diego Molla dmollaal...@gmail.com wrote:
(sorry I forgot to type a title)
I added the data a few years ago, and I think it was deleted in the last
couple of weeks.
Today I noticed that some of the data is back but not all. I'll keep
checking
I had a quick look at it this morning, and it seems a bit inaccurate in
areas where I know OSM is good. (Ashfield, Marrickville, Burwood)
Essentially routes marked on the map that are not cycle routes and actual
cycle routes missing.
That said, there are probably places where it lists real cycle
Hi.
When did you originally map it? Are you aware of the work of the redaction
bot around the license change?
It's possible some of it was deleted by the bot after it had been remapped
by someone else.
- Ben Kelley
On Aug 19, 2012 11:58 AM, Diego Molla dmollaal...@gmail.com wrote:
Somebody
I have been doing a cleanup of Marrickville routes.
For routes that have a reference (and a relation on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sydney_Cycle_Routes#Marrickville ) these
are now done:
* L1
* L4
* L6
* L7
* L8
* L10
* L11
* L12 (pretty short route really)
* L13
L2 and L5 seem to get
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