[OSM-legal-talk] Another use case for the license

2008-12-09 Thread Joseph Gentle
Hi guys. I don't know if its too late for this but: If Microsoft / Mapquest / Google / whoever ever decide to join the community, would our new open data license let them use any of our data? What / how much would we require them to share back? -J ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap iPhone app

2008-11-11 Thread Joseph Gentle
You can suppress that, but the performance is pretty crappy. -J On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Joe Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can get python installed if your iphone is jailbroken via the Cydia > installer (apt-get Debian style but for the iPhone). I think you're > imagining

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap iPhone app

2008-11-10 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:19 AM, John McKerrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10 Nov 2008, at 14:14, Rory McCann wrote: > >> On 10/11/08 12:40, Joseph Gentle wrote: >>> http://code.google.com/p/route-me/ >>> >>> ... Though the focus is on th

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap iPhone app

2008-11-10 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM, John07 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think editing on this small screen with (maybe) bad latency... will not be > easy and efficient. I think Openstreetbugs is better for this. You can > include it into your app like the josm-plugin does. With Openstreetbugs you >

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap iPhone app

2008-11-10 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM, John07 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe Richards schrieb: >> Anyone who has played with an iPhone will have seen the Google maps >> application, which provides much of the functionality of the Javascript web >> app, while giving quite a good tactile feel It

Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetmap iPhone app

2008-11-10 Thread Joseph Gentle
http://code.google.com/p/route-me/ ... Though the focus is on the map view, not on making it a fully fledged application for the store. -J On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Joe Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone who has played with an iPhone will have seen the Google maps > applicati

Re: [OSM-talk] A super quick poll

2008-11-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
2008/11/3 Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Could we stop making PD-vs-SA flamewars that will lead nowhere, please? > > Thanks, I'm sorry for reigniting the flamewar. My intention was merely to get some data. However, I'd rather have some argument here than Steve's inflammatory remarks un

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A really quick poll

2008-11-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Lunes, 3 de Noviembre de 2008, Gustav Foseid escribió: >> I am really worried, when I see the chairman of the OSM Foundation making >> these kind of oversimplified statements regardig a complex issue like the >> OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Minimum or maximum clothing demanded

2008-11-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
I like the idea. The english term for clothing requirements is a Dress Code. I'm not sure how this can best fit in - dress_code_min=formal, dress_code_max=naked ? -J On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > please have a look and discuss my proposal about clothing

Re: [OSM-talk] A super quick poll

2008-11-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:39 PM, SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, this is not the place for that argument. That argument's >> place is the legal-talk mailing list. > > Which makes me wonder why you posted the poll here then? It was your idea - as you said, only asking the legal-talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] A super quick poll

2008-11-02 Thread Joseph Gentle
be the best map on the planet (viral license)) > c) This requires more than 20 seconds thought, please let me review the > history of BSD vs. GPL and consult some IP lawyers > > > > On 2 Nov 2008, at 23:17, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> Whats important to you? Please answe

[OSM-talk] A super quick poll

2008-11-02 Thread Joseph Gentle
Whats important to you? Please answer this ~20 second poll: http://sineltor.selfip.org/osm.php Thanks! Joseph ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD vs SA: The eternal battle

2008-10-22 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bvh wrote: > >> My ideal license would force them to divulge their private GIS data >> on signal strength > > Oh right. I just want to make a map. :D -J > cheers > Richard ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD vs SA: The eternal battle

2008-10-22 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bvh wrote: > >> Note that there is no pd-violations.org > > /me blinks in astonishment > /me decides there really is nothing more he can bring to this party > > Gustav was right. Let's talk OSM. > > cheers > Richard B

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] PD vs SA: The eternal battle

2008-10-22 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:41 PM, bvh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand this, and I find it a step backwards. But that's probably > just me. > > cu bart Perhaps linux could require that all applications that made system calls were GPL licensed too. Surely that would increase GPL adoption

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contact Info For Tom Hughes Regarding Public Domain Mailing List

2008-10-21 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this PD thing actually OSM though, or something outside of/parallel > to OSM? I don't quite understand at the moment how to whole thing is > intended to work to be honest. We're still talking about it; hence the request fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Databases?

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 03:49:11AM +1200, Joseph Gentle wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > 'Better' is dependent on what

Re: [OSM-talk] Databases?

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph Gentle
(Now with added reply-all) On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'Better' is dependent on what you're trying to achieve, but there are > certainly many 'different' representations in use in different > projects. I want to represent the data such that a user can

[OSM-talk] Databases?

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph Gentle
Hi! I've been taking a look at the software stack and (especially with the intermediate XML formats) I can't help but feel that we could represent the map data in a much more efficient format - eg a quadtree. With the right data structures, it should be possible to render maps on client side in re

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-15 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thinking as well, just needs careful consideration of viral > effects, i.e. if you want to be totally safe then you can only ever > collect data before it is assimilated into the OSM pool, and after > that it is complete

Re: [OSM-talk] License missing on many web pages

2008-09-30 Thread Joseph Gentle
None of them (not even the OSM webpage!) attribute the OSM contributors properly. The CC-By-SA license requires all contributors are listed. Yes; all ~60 000 of us. We imply that some legal conditions on map use should be enforced while others should not. Our wiki's legal faq does a bad job of com

[OSM-talk] Tiles for mobile devices

2008-09-25 Thread Joseph Gentle
Hi! I want to make a set of tiles for mobile devices. Its easier for a mobile device if you use 64x64 pixel tiles rather than 256x256. To do this, I need to edit generate_tiles.py. The file is pretty poorly documented. Does anyone have any tips on where to start? Do I need to change the projectio

Re: [OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-12 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Rory McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> You can see my beautiful city. >> >> http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&ll=-33.911633,151.24054&spn=0.03298,0.065918&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-33

[OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Gentle
You can see my beautiful city. http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&ll=-33.911633,151.24054&spn=0.03298,0.065918&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-33.9172,151.226114&panoid=SF1CU5fcTX8XqlKyXRxwog&cbp=1,123.60785767574839,,0,6.094238783200709 Good for filling in all the missing street names. -J __