Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Williams
Gregory wrote: Ah, I hadn't seen http://openbusmap.org/ / http://www.öpnvkarte.de/ http://www.xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/ before. It looks cool and I sometimes want to know the route the buses take (in a non-schematic way). Just a quick look of my parents place and I've spotted two routes that are

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-28 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 courtland.yoc...@mindspring.com wrote: I've been thinking a bit about this from a very different perspective - that of parks and other open public areas where you might not have a chance to walk the perimeter ... for instance, you've a dog who

Re: [Talk-GB] Basildon - Reminder

2009-09-28 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Williams wrote: So, 24 hours until the Basildon Mapping party. Anyone know the ratio of miles of residential street:head of population? Basildon has about 100,000 population at present 3 of us are going to map the whole town tomorrow

Re: [Talk-GB] Map of Trace data, was: Re: Stitching Aerial Photographs (John Robert Peterson)

2009-09-25 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phil James wrote: Thanks for that, but bearing in mind I am not a programmer, how does it help me? :-\ I don't know the ID for any tracks there may or may not be in the area i (may) want to map, and I can't find a way in OSM to reveal any GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] new proposals for k:shop

2009-09-20 Thread Mark Williams
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Roy Wallace wrote: Regarding search - ideally, I think the user should be able to say that they want to eat a t-bone steak in mood lighting for under $20 less than 30min drive away Whoa, that would be the killer app! Go out for cheap drinks with some

Re: [Talk-GB] liam123 facts

2009-09-19 Thread Mark Williams
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, [] Also, I think I have found one place where liam123 actually did something good (but I reverted it nonetheless). There is a footway that goes right across Cumberland drive here in Landon: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/28277588 Which liam123 had fixed

Re: [Talk-GB] More NaPTAN Counties Uploaded - Bristol and Cheshire East

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: On 7 Sep 2009, at 00:00, Frankie Roberto wrote: Thomas wrote: I'm following the Be Bold motto, and am now uploading the remaining NaPTAN counties that have been requested. I'll probably do two or three at a time, following the list alphabetically,

Re: [Talk-GB] More NaPTAN Counties Uploaded - Bristol and Cheshire East

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Sep 2009, at 21:00, Mark Williams wrote: [] When I voted for Essex I had hoped that all of Essex might turn up, but as far as I can see it's excluded Thurrock, a little unitary authority in the S.W. corner - which is, naturally, the bit I wanted... To be clear

Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Williams
Thomas Wood wrote: [] Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definitely a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment) Good, thanks for that - I am hoping to go round my

[Talk-GB] Proposed Basildon Mapping Party

2009-08-23 Thread Mark Williams
One month to go to the Basildon Mapping Party! I've meant to do this for some time, and have now made plans to move away from the area, so it's now or never. The 26-27th September looks clear in the OSM diary. Basildon is one major cause of Essex looking a bit short in the Completeness Map,

Re: [Talk-GB] A13 and NCN13 getting muddled?

2009-08-09 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: On 7 Aug 2009, at 08:02, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 7 Aug 2009, at 00:06, Mark Williams wrote: Peter Miller wrote: This is the A13 and it in the ncn13 relation which I think is wrong http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23406798 Any thoughts? Anyone fancy

Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williams
Stephan Plepelits wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be commercial or retail. For the area of the hotel: amenity=hotel And for the hotel itself: amenity=hotel, building=yes (For

Re: [Talk-GB] A13 and NCN13 getting muddled?

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: This is the A13 and it in the ncn13 relation which I think is wrong http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23406798 Any thoughts? Anyone fancy following it up? Actually no, the NCN13 route _IS_ down the A13! Bizarre but true.. It skips off for the flyover at Gallows

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] maxheight/height

2009-07-29 Thread Mark Williams
Liz wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: My main point is that when there is a maximum height under a way, this should be tagged as an attribute of that way, not of the ways that pass under it. Here I cannot agree When I travel over the bridge I am not interested in the maximum

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-24 Thread Mark Williams
Greg Stark wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Steve Hillst...@nexusuk.org wrote: 1. It is one way in the appropriate direction (clockwise in the UK) 2. All the roads leave/join the outside of the loop (*) 3. It generally isn't very built-up in the middle (**) 4. It has a reasonably

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-23 Thread Mark Williams
Chris Fleming wrote: On 21/07/09 16:39, Mark Williams wrote: My 2p; He has been very active around my area and I have had to put in some work righting wrongs; there are more out there than I have fixed I believe the original was better than the fixed version in some cases. Although some

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-23 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:18, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Without going through every edit in the changeset it will be hard to determine. If we do have to go through every changeset then we might as well

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 is still active unfortunately

2009-07-20 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Miller wrote: On 19 Jul 2009, at 23:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Peter Miller wrote: We really need some better tools for reverting this sort of nonsense and a way of patrolling the edits of new contributors . This isn't a discussion for talk-gb really, but possibly it is a

Re: [Talk-GB] Freemap (OSM for walkers) - increased coverage

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Williams
Nick Whitelegg wrote: For example, for public footpaths are you including all highway=footway/footway=yes ways, or are you using the slowly increasingly used tag that I read about somewhere of designation=public_footpath? As stated in my original message, highway=footway/foot=yes are *not*

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM based printed directory, possible?

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Williams
Matías Iturburu wrote: Hello list. Newbie here. I work for a small press plublishing shop in my city, for a number of years we have been developing and selling the most complete map of the city and towns nearby, being the de-facto reference for all the citizens, bus and taxi drivers, as

Re: [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

2009-06-01 Thread Mark Williams
Peter Childs wrote: 2009/6/1 SteveC st...@asklater.com: I'm tempted, but half the point is that we need to stop thinking that the IoW is mapped, without addresses or turn restrictions there's a long way to go. On 1 Jun 2009, at 10:53, Steve Chilton wrote: Steve I would be very

Re: [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

2009-05-31 Thread Mark Williams
I'm in if the date suits. Mark Shaun McDonald wrote: Yay, that'd be a great idea. Shaun On 30 May 2009, at 15:53, SteveC wrote: Remember how awesome the wales mapping weekend was last year? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welsh_Mapping_Party_Weekend Remember the Isle of

Re: [Talk-GB] Route planner using UK OSM data

2009-03-31 Thread Mark Williams
Shaun McDonald wrote: On 23 Mar 2009, at 19:14, Andrew M. Bishop wrote: a...@gedanken.demon.co.uk (Andrew M. Bishop) writes: I decided that what would be fun to implement is a routing algorithm that can find the best (shortest or quickest) route between any two OSM highway nodes. I know

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] National Routes - when are they freeways?

2009-03-20 Thread Mark Williams
As I undestand it, a freeway is a highway that has a centre island divide BUT does not have stop streets and robots at intersections, rather it has on-off ramps and bridges. This makes them qualify for a blue stripe! Regards, Mark - Original Message - From: brendan barrett

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Naming Conventions

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Williams
Is there any consensus regarding the use of the 'name=*' tag as far as highways/motorways are concerned? Example: the stretch of N3 between Buccleuch interchange and the Elands interchange is called the Eastern Bypass. Do we tag as 'name=Eastern Bypass' and 'ref=N3'? Mark

Re: [OSM-talk] POI layer for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-11-19 Thread Mark Williams
Simon Ward wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:47:26AM +0100, vegard wrote: The online th and mapnik layers are the showcases for OSM for outsiders. The one thing that can impress people, is the level of detail we get. So I say it's good to have a layer with as much detail as possible. or a

Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=gate

2008-11-09 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tordanik wrote: Nic Roets schrieb: According to the wiki redirects, barrier=gate is replacing highway=gate. According to tagwatch, the latter is 10 times more popular than the former. Is the community OK with this ? If yes, why aren't we running

Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to Map Features based on tag usage

2008-10-31 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Browet wrote: It's fairly standard usage, you see a doctor at the doctors, a butcher runs the butchers. There should really be an apostrophe in there I think, ie: the butcher's shop, the doctor's surgery. But that's not

[OSM-Talk-ZA] Tagging

2008-10-31 Thread Mark Williams
does an M road become secondary - M20?, M15?, M50? For example, what would the M39 (Chloorkop Road) be? It is a double road which is the main link between Tembisa/Kempton Park and Midrand. Yet the M16 through Edenvale runs through suburbs... Regards, Mark Williams Technical Manager

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS routing using OpenStreetMap data?

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Williams
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Mon, October 20, 2008 10:52, Valent Turkovic wrote: Are there any applications (on linux preferably) that use OpenStreetMap maps and give standard GPS routing functions like commercial car GPS units? Navit, GPSdrive, gosmore. You can also put OSM data into just

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Features, maxspeed and maplint

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dermot McNally wrote: 2008/10/5 Ed Loach [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 30mph. If we had stayed with assumed country-specific units then the tagging would have been more consistent, easier for the user to tag, and not require a conversion to a random number

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

2008-09-29 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Stubbs wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Philip Homburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] Step 1) Write OSM bot Step 2) Write OSM Wiki vote rigging bot Step 3) Propose bot Step 4) Rig vote Step 5) Run OSM bot all the while pointing at the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (historic=stocks)

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Williams
Matthew Flint wrote: Deal all, I'd like to propose a new tag, historic=stocks. Stocks are devices used in medieval times for public humiliation and corporal punishment, and are still to be found (but not used, alas!) around the UK. I would welcome comments on the Proposed Features page:

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking aisle as boundary of car park not showing

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 80n wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 25.09.2008, at 12:53, sergio sevillano wrote: with JOSM i can zoom and put very close independent paths not touching each other making them practicaly

Re: [OSM-talk] mailing list behavior

2008-09-01 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 01-Sep-08, at 1:47 AM, leblatt wrote: No big deal, but when I hit « reply » on a talk@openstreetmap.org message, it replies to the message originator, not the list. I have to hit “reply all”, and remove the

Re: [OSM-talk] ferry route speed

2008-09-01 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Groom wrote: When tagging ferry routes is anyone tagging ferry speed, and if so do you simply add maxspeed = ?? to thr route? david There was a recent discussion on the routing list about this - iirc we agreed to use a (low) assumed

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right?

2008-08-26 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl Newman wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 robin paulson wrote: Rory McCann wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: What's current tagging best practice

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right?

2008-08-25 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 robin paulson wrote: Rory McCann wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: What's current tagging best practice with things which are to the left or the right of a way (e.g. bus stops)? A nearly-approved proposal for a canal-side object has been objected to

Re: [OSM-talk] Me and Ed Parsons are drowning!

2008-08-20 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Groom wrote: Looking at some of the relevant ways it certainly is a mess, as pointed out by Dermot Mcnally see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2008-August/028661.html No one replied on list to his post. I did - I think -

Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap POI details

2008-08-19 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am experimenting with making Garmin compatible maps, mkgmap and sendmap do just fine and I was suprised just how easy it is I do like mkgmap... however I have a few comments/questions. 1) Is it possible

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map not working in Firefox

2008-07-23 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: Tordanik wrote: When opening openstreetmap.org, the general page displays properly, including zoom display, ruler, permalink and layer selector. The map, however, remains plain white. No errors in javascript console, cursor

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it land or sea: how to map a swamp?

2008-07-09 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 natural=marsh? (from Map Features) I would expect to find coastline on the open-sea border of this. Mark Mike Collinson wrote: I agree with Stephen's comments and add that I follow the rule if in doubt, map it as land since we don't have the

Re: [OSM-talk] How can we measure the completeness of the map statistically

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wer-ist-roger wrote: Am Donnerstag 26 Juni 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: * Another hypothesis is that more complete areas of OSM will have a higher level of edit activity. Then there are those who say that an area that's complete doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Don't you just hate it when part 2...

2008-06-08 Thread Mark Williams
Nick Whitelegg wrote: On Sunday 08 Jun 2008 22:35, you wrote: yes! I do hate it,. but not because I don't regret walking or being outside, Same with me too, though I might have gone somewhere else if I'd known! Guess the lesson is to make sure you know what the others in your area are

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Medical centres, clinics, doctors and dentists

2008-06-07 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Clinic can apply to other medical folks, such as chiropodists and physiotherapists too. And physical rehabilitation, dementia care, psychiatric counseling... the list might be quite a

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Medical centres, clinics, doctors and dentists

2008-06-07 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Clinic can apply to other medical folks, such as chiropodists and physiotherapists too. And physical rehabilitation, dementia care, psychiatric counseling... the list might be quite a

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping Crossing ways

2008-05-31 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fairhurst wrote: Mark Williams wrote: [snip] On a slightly related issue, I'll be interested to see how changesets, and the easier ability to monitor an area, affect this. 0.6b went live on 15th January, 0.8a on 30th March, so

[OSM-talk] Overlapping Crossing ways

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Williams
This is another Potlatch grumble - but it's not really Potlatch, it's the internet. I just found a whole lot (really, a lot) of overlapping ways with some really old data (Potlatch alpha before) buried under new versions from Potlatch v0.6a 0.8 - for instance, the M25 Junction 30 had 3

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch and the evil semicolons

2008-05-28 Thread Mark Williams
Dermot McNally wrote: 2008/5/27 Rory McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's a FAQ entry that says that you should use ; as a value separator (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Faq#What_shall_I_do_for_roads_that_have_multiple_values_for_a_tag.3F). Is this offical OSM policy? If so then,

Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Williams
Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 8 May 2008, Robin Paulson wrote: maybe i'll do it myself; some transparent png laid over the top of the osm tiles can't be so difficult Have a look at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Contours This tells you how contour rendering has been

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC on watermills

2008-05-07 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Wagner wrote: Hi there I created a proposed feature called watermill. It is in category man_made like windmills are too. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Watermill I think there is not much misunderstandable

Re: [OSM-talk] Field/Landuse Mapping

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Williams
Sfan00 wrote: Hi, You may have noticed some of my recent contributions in respect of fields nr Bourne End and Bovingdon in Hertfordshire, UK. Can I make a polite request that alongside the many other ongoing pojects, that an effort be made to mark land-use based on available

Re: [OSM-talk] English version of OSM foldout flyer

2008-04-05 Thread Mark Williams
maning sambale wrote: http://ajr.hopto.org/osm/pr/OSMFlyer-English.pdf Acrobat says Error processing page ... (109) maning I'd re-download it, mine is both technically fine very good - Thanks to both! I'm taking it to Wales today.. Mark ___

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-04-02 Thread Mark Williams
Dave Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 17:31 +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: I vaguely remember months ago when the coastline checker at http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html was quite new, someone [] You can download a custom JOSM and validator .jar here:

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Williams
Lars Aronsson wrote: [some serious stuff] Also, returning to cycle lanes, the secondary road Malmslättsvägen is now marked with cycleway=lane, but this doesn't show on the map here. And how can I indicate that this bus stop is only on the southern side of the street (buses going east)?

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and scale

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Robinson wrote: On 26/03/2008, Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars Aronsson wrote: [some serious stuff] Also, returning to cycle lanes, the secondary road Malmslättsvägen is now marked with cycleway=lane, but this doesn't

Re: [Talk-GB] London to Brighton Bike Ride - registration

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Williams
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Gregory Williams wrote: Sent: 29 February 2008 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] London to Brighton Bike Ride - registration Don't worry! I took a trace last year:

Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Williams
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] osmosis]$ java -mx1024m -jar osmosis.jar --read-xml file=~/Desktop/europe.osm.bz2 --bounding-polygon file=~/geo/gb-irl.poly --write-xml file=UK.osm failed as below on Mandriva 2008 That's yesterday's europe, svn's gb-irl.poly, osmosis 0.24

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-26 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lester Caine wrote: Mark Williams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lester Caine wrote: J.D. Schmidt wrote: Lester Caine skrev: [big snip] LOGICALLY - there should never have been a problem created. A POI element should

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Williams
Stephen Hope wrote: This would be good. But even better, let me select a portion of a track log and upload it. My track logs tend to be a nightmarish tangle, with possibly hours of stuff before, after and during the interesting bits. I can use them because I was there, and know where I

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Williams
80n wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Hope wrote: This would be good. But even better, let me select a portion of a track log and upload it. My track logs tend to be a nightmarish tangle, with possibly hours of stuff before, after

Re: [OSM-talk] Caption competition

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Williams
OJ W wrote: The OSM cartoon has apparently become CC now: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Image:Openstreetmap_cartoon.jpg - would anyone like to write a caption, for use as the easter-week featured image? Oh Ye'll tak the High Road, I'll tak the Low Road, I'll have mapped

[Talk-GB] [Fwd: Re: Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations]

2007-09-21 Thread Mark Williams
Original Message Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:13:30 +0100 From: Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Talk-GB] affixing a GPS to a dashboard

2007-08-02 Thread Mark Williams
Jonathan Bennett wrote: Steve Coast wrote: That burning question - if you have a GPS and a dashboard which lets it slide off when you turn a corner - what do you do? Maybe blu tak? Works perfectly for me. Use many small blobs rather than one big one, though. Jono Be