http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py
We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some
people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a time.
Thanks to those who worked on the namefinder - it worked GREAT
You gotta have the addr:street information somewhere.
Oops! Yes, that should be the minimum required.
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If you do have something that has multiple names, you are better stating what
the name is. For example if a bridge has a name, you could use name= for the
street name that runs on top of the bridge, and name:bridge for the name of
the bridge itself. I'm sure there are better examples.
I didn't
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py
Cool stuff! I've been looking at doing the same thing. Which osgeo
python code are you using?
I'm using the default lib for Fedora - GDAL 1.6.0; release 8.fc11 .
Someone else (in Georgia?) created all
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py
We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some
people have some plans on how to get these integrated a bit at a time.
Thanks to those who worked on the namefinder - it worked GREAT
If we're going to go into detail, no type of interpolation reflects
reality, it's just interpolation.
I disagree. An approximation of reality reflects reality.
Physical street surveys will almost never get 100% reality due to missing
house numbers, etc. Are you proposing to discourage
FYI - I applied the experimental script which creates address interpolation
ways at -
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py
The results are at
I just tried with 2439 and can't seem to reproduce this.
-- Dave
The issue I was having is gone with 2439svn.
I see a lingering problem in 2439 - apparently overlapping downloads +
edits cause a large mass of downloads to be marked as changed for upload.
Ian Dees wrote:
* Ok, not impossible, but the import size would triple and the CPU
time to compute the new addressing-only ways might make it hard for
the regular mapper to do.
But for no added code and editor complexity.
If it's just an issue of CPU time, I would be happy to set up a box
FYI - I applied the experimental script which creates address interpolation
ways at -
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py
The results are at
In reality, it isn't. It's factual information about the world, which
is not copyrightable in the USA, and given your sweat of the brow in
tracing it, is copyrightable (but it's YOUR copyright for having
traced) in the UK.
But that's not the point. The point is that the Google Terms of
I care about them as much as I care about people's
speed limit violations while making OSM maps.
I can just picture some bored police lieutenant pulling down those GPX
tracks in his area having timestamps, then trying to issue speeding tickets.
3. I parked my car near a village a day before, marked a waypoint.
The satellite error was at +- 5metres. Today morning, I came back
and marked another waypoint. This time the error was +-4 metres
but this waypoint is 150 metres off the earlier one. The car keys
were with me and I can vouch
times of day.
(Just guessing). Normally a re-survey of an area results in a max 2-4 Meter
error with this same device.
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Mike, thanks for the response
FYI - I did a diff from 2008 to 2009 for my county:
0 named ways deleted (probably reflects reality)
75 named ways added
So there was a bit of activity.
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The page does not use flickr geolocation apis, only the tags.
Very nice presentation - this is better than just Flickr's Geo location
map because the actual feature is highlighted. And it's more correct to
use the OSM tag rather than the Flickr geolocation tag because of the offset
There are solutions, but all the ones I know about are commercial. I
use a board based on MPNews from MessagePixels - I access it via NNTP,
others use it as an email list or a web based board. There is a bit of
culture clash - people who use the threaded (web based, nntp) forms
tend to snip
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-to-be-first-163633.html
Atlanta to be first crowd-mapped U.S. city
Jack Kittle of Decatur is helping create a new map of Atlanta, and suddenly
the world looks like a more fun place.
Notice the Brick Store Pub and the Raging Burrito on OpenStreetMap's map of
I wanted to send out a reminder to all the mappers around the
Atlanta, Georgia area (and all the folks coming in from out
of town) that the Atlanta Mapathon on October 16-18 is
quickly approaching.
Is there anything planned for Friday the 16th that's open to the public,
if so- where and
I think they are quite important,(they are currently not rendered with
name at that level, and the small icon is IMHO not cluttering). But
this discussion is endless...
Actually they are now rendered in this level due to a trac-ticket of
someone mapping in the alps, where they can be crucial
I created a new group of photos to extend the experiment - I think all
have OSM tags except for 2.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43161...@n05/
With the problems of direct OSM ID reference, I don't see this as a
permanent thing, but this is some more sample data to fuel thought.
Not quite the same thing but I was told last week some colour blind
people can't use Google maps because there is too much green, but they
can use maps based on OSM data, not sure which style etc, because it
has less/no green
As long as they don't live in Georgia g
I used shop=solicitor because I had heaps of stuff to put on the map and
no
time to do any exhaustive search. Any tag I found on the wiki later I
adjusted
to a generally used one.
I'm quite happy to change my tag to shop=lawyer.
I'm not an English native speaker, maybe that's why
And I think this gets changed as other objects in the database get
changed: freely but consciously. So if there is a new value for shop, it
is a conscious act to add that to the list of values for shop, and to
describe it, not just casually adding it as a tag value.
Let me be quite clear
You have described an interesting example of the difficulties of wishing
to be
a conformist on OSM and I have described the example of how easy it is to
be
an anarchist.
The only reason for wanting to be a conformist is the possibility for
more meaningful rendering sooner. Currently,
So, I've revised my approach to placing non-rendering shop types on the
building outline where the name= tag will be shown.
If I understand you correctly your mapping/tagging so the name is
displayed along the outline of the shop.
I add a building=yes which renders the building
The delay in rendering is irritating but understandable. A sandbox with a
limit of a view ways/areas to allow immediate render would be extremely
useful.
I read somewhere today that someone is working on this - a web site where
you'll be able to designate a bounding rectangle with near
I think the real question is what would importing a new version of the
tiger data do to all the tiger data fixes we've spent so much time on.
Good question - I would hope that whatever is done takes maximal
consideration for any existing edits - along the lines of OpenJump /
RoadMatcher
My goal is to get the addresses imported into OSM this time
around.
I agree - most newbies' first usage of openstreetmap.org is to type their
street address, then not look further when nothing is found.(I know we
aren't serving as a real time reference site, but some of these people
ref tags are rendered in the naming of things like highway=motorway
and highway=motorway_junction. For example,
highway=motorway_junction, ref=283, name=Wilsonville:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.30571lon=-122.76832zoom=16layers=0B00FTF
Note how the ref gets rendered at some levels
Is this the most up to date way of keeping addresses?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema
There is also this alpha-level Python code to generate Karlsruhe style ways:
I've been noticing that in the US tiger data in central Kansas - ways do
not cross county lines. Each county has their own county line road and
the roads from that county connect to it - but it overlays the next
countys county line road. Is there some automated way to select both
ways and
This was an attempt to create a titled horizontal rule. Is there a
native Swing component for this?
I think a JSeparator is your friend there. Adding some indentation or
border will make you even more happy there.
I converted this to a conventional border. Also, based on a
One thing I see at that intersection is that where the roads split with the
connector to 254, the southeastern link appears to be tagged wrong. If you
start from the north, working south:
A way named as carrying US 81, State 15 and State 96. Also relation
named 135 south.
Split with a
The problem connector is also named US81...etc, as well as containing the
routing relation 135 South. I believe that is what disrupted the
routing.
A further clarification - the connection from 81 to 254 would be a
secondary_link , since the road to which it connects is secondary.
The Census Bureau is very unlikely to release specific
latitude/longitude info for each address due to privacy issues;
however, they probably will fix at least some of the interpolation
ranges either based on the field collection or updates from local
governments.
It's funny that there was
Seems the layout of your plugin dialog got mixed up a bit.
Using version 17721 the Optional information: box doesn't include the
following lines and fields (city, state, etc.)
This was an attempt to create a titled horizontal rule. Is there a
native Swing component for this?
I have written a new JOSM plugin that assists with Address Interpolation -
it follows the newg Wiki instruction page for tagging address
interpolation ways.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/AddrInterpolation
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Lots of the streets have abbreviated types. OSM wants Road instead of
Rd, and Avenue instead of Ave. That's tedious work though. Change
them as you touch them, I guess.
Re: Tiger in the US - in nearly all cases, I will change something that is
signed as XYX rd to XYZ road, following
I've been working on streets in and around Wichita and Newton, Kansas
for the last week, it seems there has been little done since the tiger
data import, as most freeway(motorway) intersections also connect
directly to the crossing street. I've been disconnecting and making sure
that the
Thanks I think I've got it fixed now - Eclipse was checking out updates into
one directory, but building from another, so my current source was weeks
old. The accessors will be a good thing in the future.
Note to general users wishing to try it out; the plugin will now require
running
I have deleted a number of historical Tiger ways from the OSM data.This
includes ways that pass through new construction and are clearly no longer
present in any form, as well as historical ways that are also no longer
physically present.So I'd add a step to exclude it for import if it
so that what I've done can benefit from the addressing
information.
Just a thought - the 2009 census survey included workers going to every
dwelling with a GPS to confirm type of occupancy. If (*big if*) they
release the GPS coordinates plus street address, this is likely to be much
On the other hand, since they live on their street, their primary knowledge
of street names comes from a local survey, and at most they might use
Google maps for secondary reference. Your point is important for those
that branch out into their neighborhood, and might continue to copy from
I'd noticed the increased speed as well. Thank you to all involved in
making it happen.
I noticed this also. That's a great help - Thanks!
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I'd suggest moving all the following tags
addr:city = Osijek
addr:country = 385
addr:postcode = 31000
addr:street = Starigradska
to the way (rather than the individual nodes). And I'd suggest that
addr:country = 385 is unlikely to be understood.
No! Please don't do that. That makes
We have to deal witht he reality of the situation, no commonly used
mail client handles list headers properly, so it's pointless to argue
this is a good reason to keep the status quo, in fact it's a good
reason to set the reply to to the list since most mail clients don't
handle it properly,
As is well known apparently, at some point in the last couple of months,
the Yahoo imagery available through WMS became pixelated and difficult to
use at zoom levels high enough to trace individual streets.
That has not happened in my area. If you're using JOSM, I seem to
recall that it
From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Pieren wrote:
I say that because I spent a little bit time to look the edits of this
person, working intensively in different countries with a lot of short
edits and after one day of the first alarms about this user.
But do you even have anyhing to
I have done a dataset conversion in preparation for a bulk import of an NHD
coastal sub-basin in the US. One of the last river stages generated a
multipolygon relation containing about 3,000 members.
Is it best to break this into multiple 'bands' before importing it, or is
there no
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Since this has been so helpful, I'd like to ask for advice on another
question. In an urban/suburban setting (Tampa, Florida, US), where
sidewalks are discontinuous (some blocks have them on both sides, some
blocks only on one, some on
1. September 12th we are having a mapping party to map the National Zoo.
We thought it would be a good way to teach people how to use the tools and
we could do some fun renderings of the data when we are finished.
Sounds like a great project! When training a newbie, it would be good
There's landuse = allotments
A piece of land given over to local residents for growing vegetables and
flowers.
I've seen this tag used on the Schraeder Gardens in Switzerland, but I'm
not sure if your use is exactly the same thing.
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Just a thought on this... do you know which frame of the GOP this is from.
I frames would be the clearest, followed by P and then B.
The issue of blur may be able be reduced if your camera has a sports or
fast shutter mode.
I played with the jog mode, but could not find a clearer view in
From: Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
Is 640x480 good enough?
;) ofcourse we want 1080p ;)
is 640x480 good enough e.g to read street names and other signs?
http://home.att.net/~niceman/VidCap1.jpg
I took that yesterday from a helmet cam
The admin boundary has (IMHO) extra nodes (they don't connect to another
way nor do they affect the shape of the boundary). To make things
worse, I've joined some of these nodes to streets as I worked on the
streets and land use in the area.
So... now that I have to fix things, I want to
Since the prework for the 2010 census involved thousands of workers
recording street addresses + GPS coordinates, and past census data has been
eligible for OpenStreetMap, I'm wondering if it is feasible to import that
information to create address strips.
If an import is likely, I would
You might be able to use sat overlays to estimate the true path.
won't be more precise though (if you really mean sat and not aerial
photo). In the end you would be tracing from aerial and use the track
just as an reminder.
For this case, I checked with the Yahoo imagery, and the canopy
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I've done some rain-forest hiking, and I've noticed similar results.
If you really want to see some wandering tracks, try hiking along the
base of some cliffs, in dense forest.
The area I was in was in a
I was reviewing the toll tagging and things in the Wiki don't quite
connect -
1. barrier = toll_booth - applies to node. This seems good.
2. toll = yes - applies to way. So far so good, but then it refers to
highway = toll_booth instead of barrier =
3. charge = {amount} - applies to way.
I'm using netbook with just your average $30 GPS dongle to collect data.
Today I took a 5 mile out-and back hike under dense forest canopy. The GPX
traces for the same trail out and back are separated by as much as 100
meters.
I didn't record PDOP information and such, but are there any
I have updated the wiki page with an example process to select Shapefiles
directly from the NHD site. Let us know if that doesn't work for some
reason.
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Thanks, I thought there was something already tailored for the NHD
data, that was
There's a suite of NHD scripts at
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/nhd2osm/
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right tags already set, but do not see one for either script. Would
Mike,
Have a look at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging
To avoid having this page become too large, I would propose creating a new
page for US Interstate Highways, and having the Interstate Highways
section of this page refer to the new page.
I had an interesting experience related to my first mapping project. I was
trying find convenient entry points into a new local fitness trail to check it
out. Although there is an official Google map with a GPX trace, it's hard to
find entry points, parking, etc because they're a bit hidden
Some state parks near populated areas are utilized to the hilt - while they
have trees, every available acre is utilized for hiking, biking, camping,
swimming, and picnicking - so there are gray areas of classification.
If it is necessary to further classify parks in the US, one logical tag
I was thinking this also - I was going to send an email to the local faculty
who are responsible for the GIS curriculum at each local school, and also
offer to speak or help get students started (first edit sessions can be
frustrating). It's important to keep the mail as low key and let the
Curved bridges will require more than one segment to mark the bridge way.
Re: Collected Ways - For a simple way bridge case, I leave the bridge
named either the same as the way or for the case of a named bridge, have the
way as name_1. The name collector *might* be able to follow the way by
Keep in mind for the change detection algorithm, that a few users do not
realize that it is good to remove the tiger:reviewed=no after verifying or
correcting a way.
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I saved all the original source data and the id mappings from the source
.
My county sells a DVD of GIS data; exactly what I'm looking for - but I'm
sure the copyright would not allow inclusion into OpenStreetMap though.
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