[OSM-talk] Anyone at Siggraph this year?

2012-07-20 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The folks of Elphel famous for a camera of a certain 360 image project of a minor search engine. Will be presenting their new camera at Siggraph. They asked me if anyone of the OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Suspend Imports / Bulk edits / Bots

2012-07-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11-07-12 17:10, Grant Slater wrote: > Summary: Please stop Imports, Automated Edits, Bulk edits & Bots > until the redaction process has ended. What is your ETA? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment:

[OSM-talk] Archive.org Tile Serving

2012-04-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Hi, Last night Archive.org has set up a collection to facilitate tile serving from Archive.org. We can experiment on what the best structure of this would be. Anyone with interest in this subject please contact me. Stefan ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Truth about media hype in Microsoft lending big support and big dollars to OSM ?

2012-04-03 Thread Stefan de Konink
On 03-04-12 18:18, Pieren wrote: Where is the truth here ? Is the "big support and big money" the access of Bing aerial imagery ? Is that all ? Who much does it cost to Microsoft to allow its aerial imagery usage in OSM ? I don't find any answer/facts to these simple questions but many speculatio

Re: [OSM-talk] GSOC2012 Video Based Speed Limit Detector

2012-03-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
Hi, On 21-03-12 21:04, Emanuela Boroș wrote: My name is Emanuela Boros and I am a second year Software Engineering master's student at the "Al. Ioan Cuza" University of Iasi, Romania and, after I graduate, I plan to follow a phd program. As you might know from projects in GSoC two years ago we

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!

2012-02-13 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 13-02-12 12:49, Michael Kugelmann schreef: > IMHO OSM should be present at FOSDEM 2013 again (another stand). In another building :) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - htt

Re: [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-27 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 27-01-12 18:44, Michael Collinson schreef: > But what about negative factors? As my unanswered questions to the OSMF-Board remain, what is the situation with Wikipedia data in OSM? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GN

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM downtime as protest against SOPA?

2012-01-16 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 16-01-12 22:57, Matthias Meißer schreef: > I have no idea, if this could be technicaly done by the Admins, or > what kind of protest (complete shutdown, serving demo tiles, Black tiles, with remaining free countries. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNA

Re: [OSM-talk] 23 ideas for osm and its forks

2012-01-13 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 13-01-12 15:40, Mikel Maron schreef: > Yes, ideas are great, but consider, this is an OSM list. Virtually 90% of those idea can be implemented using any dataset available. So why would this not be related to OSM? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Kadaster geeft gigabytes aan data vrij

2012-01-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
tel? Wanneer het eerste het geval is, wordt hiermee de faciliterende rol van de OSMF bedoeld? Hoogachtend, Stefan de Konink After a discussion where secretary of OSMF claims that fact that I am calling myself a 'contributor' to th

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Dutch Cadastre released all topo vector, raster and toponym data under CC-BY

2012-01-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 05-01-12 00:07, Jukka Rahkonen schreef: > The National Land Survey of Finland will also publish whole lot of > data (raster maps, aerial images, laser scanning data and the whole > topographic database in vector format) with attribution-only > lic

[OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Dutch Cadastre released all topo vector, raster and toponym data under CC-BY

2012-01-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 OpenStreetMap NL was in Dutch news today being one of the first receivers of the TOP10nl dataset of the Dutch Cadastre. Since 1-1-2012 the Cadastre releases its data under the CC-BY license, they even take contributions back. The data itself is in t

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What can we do to get a tile.openstreetmap.org contributable CDN within a month?

2011-12-30 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I have just summerized the e-mail by Mike, and created a wiki page the follow up the status: Op 30-12-11 18:23, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) schreef: > I would love to monitor such discussion and contribute

[OSM-talk] What can we do to get a tile.openstreetmap.org contributable CDN within a month?

2011-12-30 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The basic outline; - - People seem to love using tile.openstreetmap.org for any of their apps - - Apps get blocked for various reasons, contributing back is difficult - - OpenStreetMap wants to be the leading provider of such data I would propose

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-28 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 28-12-11 11:21, Frederik Ramm schreef: > I hope that we are all very clear on this issue - OSM does not want > a sales force. Advocates who come to like OSM and "sell" it to > their friends are of course fine! Why doesn't OSM want a 'salesforce'?

Re: [OSM-talk] Nestoria switching from Google to OpenStreetMap

2011-12-26 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 26-12-11 20:57, Chris Hill schreef: > I was just pointing out that you need to be careful not to make > problems on the lists - it might cause you a problem in years to > come. Politician? Maybe. Better that than being a bad loser. Or > just a loser. Offlist rumblings, friendly people. ___

[OSM-talk] Nestoria switching from Google to OpenStreetMap

2011-12-26 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 No word of: - ODBL - Creative Commons - License Makes you think why we are talking so much about it. If the users of the map don't freaking care. Stefan -BEGIN

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking Forward

2011-12-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 25-12-11 06:05, Serge Wroclawski schreef: > ...or geotagged images. Exactly. Allowing integration with OpenStreetView by John McKerrel both serverwise as integration with the API could bootstrap such effort. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking Forward

2011-12-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear Frederik, The outline of your mail is clear. And I hope I can give some input, that could give relativation to some of your points. Op 24-12-11 14:02, Frederik Ramm schreef: > 1. Strict Tagging Rules You make a few clear points from my unde

Re: [OSM-talk] Transition to CC-4 instead of destroying data

2011-12-14 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 14-12-11 22:00, Michael Kugelmann schreef: > causes additional problems. Could you point on the wiki which problems will arise by not changing at all - or posing a future transition to a next version of the Creative Commons license? > PS: I will

[OSM-talk] Dutch national Broadcaster not stopped by CC-BY-SA

2011-12-07 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Unlike one of the arguments of the BBC not using OpenStreetMap, one of the Dutch nationale broadcasters is using OpenStreetMap as their data source for geovisualisations in the Dutch version of "Britain from

Re: [OSM-talk] Esri spain abuse?

2011-11-03 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 04-11-11 00:49, Fredy Rivera schreef: > ESRI use our map[0] without respecting the terms of our license [0] > http://www.votosycifras.com/ They do... even for a person that does not speak Spanish... Fondo => Its obvious that "OpenStreetmap" mean

Re: [OSM-talk] XML database VS PostgreSQL for OSM

2011-10-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 25-10-11 01:33, Robin Paulson schreef: > On 19 October 2011 20:58, dre . wrote: >> Considering an OSM data fragment representing a town as Paris, >> London, etc, I wonder assets and drawbacks of using a XML file >> (myTown.osm) against tools as p

Re: [OSM-talk] Map tiles in Chrome

2011-10-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 21-10-11 17:39, Toby Murray schreef: > Yeah, I've seen weird behavior in Chrome too. It used to be very > good about refreshing tiles a few months ago but then it seems > like something changed. What is mod_tile using for content expiration? Etag

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF to provide commercial tile service? [WAS: something else]

2011-10-11 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 09-10-11 19:40, Frederik Ramm schreef: > On 10/09/2011 05:51 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: >> OSMF could be the primary shareholder of a private entity that >> commercially exploits hosting tiles (..and what not more). > >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF to provide commercial tile service? [WAS: something else]

2011-10-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 09-10-11 16:39, Richard Weait schreef: > Providing commercial tiles is not a problem that the OSMF should > try to solve. OSMF could be the primary shareholder of a private entity that commercially exploits hosting tiles (..and what not more). S

Re: [OSM-talk] Jerusalem name tag - Mediation

2011-10-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 08-10-11 23:10, Russ Nelson schreef: > That will make it clear that anybody who wants to argue with how > the map is rendered should be talking to the people who render > *that* map, and not be looking at the tags. Or maybe this just opens examp

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap

2011-10-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 08-10-11 14:39, Zsombor Szabó schreef: > This is our short term solution for the problem, but the long term > solution is clearly a vector based renderer. I previously alluded > that it is coming on my twitter profile. The long term solution is

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-23 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 23-06-11 17:41, Robert Scott schreef: > Yet people somehow still know what "Linux" is and where to get it, > because it tends to center itself around where all the competent > people are. Now think this in BSD perspective. And ask yourself how yo

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-03 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Steve Coast wrote: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2011/02/03/automatic ally-detect-roads-with-bing-aerial-imagery.aspx After toying with markov models and viterbi for image tracing maybe we could do the same for _all_ GPX tracks that OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap + BigBlueButton = win (multi conference chat, voice and video server for meetings/teachings

2011-01-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Matthias Mei?~_er wrote: Not bad, thanks for this tip Valent. I will check it out. But for OSM support I we asked the german community if they would need/support an VoIP account to assist newbies for mapping and so on. A overwhelming mess said no we don't need it ;) It

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap + BigBlueButton = win (multi conference chat, voice and video server for meetings/teachings

2011-01-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: I first heard about bbb project on FLOSS Weekly podcast (http://twit.tv/floss147) +1 At the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit I attended a meeting about this project. Indeed for everyone who is able to run Potlatch this is a great proj

Re: [OSM-talk] Did Googles map quality recently degrade?

2010-12-22 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 22-12-10 01:26, Steve Bennett schreef: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Stefan de Konink wrote: >> On the Dutch mailinglist/IRC I have raised the point why Google Maps was >> always upgraded like within weeks after we did.

Re: [OSM-talk] Did Googles map quality recently degrade?

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 22-12-10 00:18, Toby Murray schreef: > Maybe OSM data leaked into their map like it did in south america and > then they deleted it because of license violations? :) On the Dutch mailinglist/IRC I have raised the point why Google Maps was always

[OSM-talk] Did Googles map quality recently degrade?

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, I was just browsing on Google Maps while geocoding some stuff, and I noticed that a lot of improvements that were on there before suddenly disappeared, even more interesting some parts like (water) basically ended up in complete non-sense. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 17-12-10 22:33, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen schreef: > Blake: thank you for your contributions, and mistakes > are human. And sometimes unavoidable. For example in the case of the Dutch busstop imports. You cannot 'deduplicate'

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Blake Crosby wrote: On 17/12/2010 12:50 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Can you confirm that the data came from sources compliant with the license terms, and not from sources such as Google Maps that don't allow their data to be used in OSM? The information at

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: Come on, this is non-sense. If someone accepted the CT and imports the data, it should be enough. I disagree, if there is reasonable evidence or suspicion that the data may have licensing

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: A simple assertion that "this is PD" isn't good enough. Lots of people don't have any understanding of IP in geodata, and will happily trace from Google Maps then say "I declare the result to be CC-BY/PD/CC-BY-SA/entirely my copyright/what-have-you".

Re: [OSM-talk] Torrents for planet.osm.bz2 are available (again)

2010-12-16 Thread Stefan de Konink
Thanks for picking this project up :) Hopefully the PBF's can get seeded as well :) Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] If you've missed this ...

2010-10-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 06-10-10 15:12, Nic Roets schreef: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:55 PM, TimSC > wrote: >> On 06/10/10 00:59, Richard Weait wrote: >>> >>> http://opengeodata.org/osm-founder-steve-coast-leaves-cloudmade >> >> What, if any, impact does this have on O

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 01-09-10 13:33, John Smith schreef: > On 1 September 2010 21:26, Stefan de Konink wrote: >> GPL is not the problem here. None of the software has to be distributed >> to the end user. No distribution = No license viola

Re: [OSM-talk] Waze using OSM Data

2010-09-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 01-09-10 13:14, John Smith schreef: > On 1 September 2010 21:06, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert > Gremmen wrote: >> OSM: go to shame ourselves. > > Most OSM software is GPL'd are you telling those authors they should > be ashamed of themse

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0 continuation

2010-08-22 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 22-08-10 18:04, Renaud MICHEL schreef: > Le dimanche 22 août 2010 à 16:58, Milo van der Linden a écrit : >> - Changing from mysql to postgresql/postgis as the core database > > This one has already been done during the API 0.6 switch, see > http:

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Peter K?rner wrote: Didn't you read? There is no way in continuing with CC-BY-SA as CC-BY-SA can't be used for databases. It is just not possible, damn! Anyone tested this is any court? Which CC-BY-SA project was 'killed' because of this? Let the guys from the LWG do wh

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 72, Issue 43

2010-08-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, David Ellams wrote: I can't take credit for the suggestion, as I think this was Richard F's idea (I knew I'd seen it somewhere: is this fair attribution? ). Maybe, for an online map (such as osm.org), a more prominent link to OSM's contributors page would be sufficient (agai

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

2010-08-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Maybe instead of playing these kinds of games you could just help those people who want to set up a fork, and then import to that fork. Because for us, your plannet import along with your steadfast refusal of the new license, only causes more work and

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: Wait, how did the thread about NOT nitpicking over licensing issues turn into a "donate so we can hire lawyers to nitpick" thread? Probably because some people instead of doing something with our data (like big location based businesses) want to protect our

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On 04/08/2010 19:01, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Let's create a fund to pay for license related legal action ;<)) After all it is so sad having a license and not be able to enforce it ! Who is willing to contribute,

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Worst case it becomes factual data, protected by some local laws or european dirrective. Sadly the fud is indeed the main issue. Hey, if the USGS can take over OSM in the US and make it public domain, don't expect me to exactly cry all over it

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Joseph Reeves wrote: Let's try not to subject OSM data users to death by a thousand self-appointed license nitpickers. Mapquest, Microsoft and now Nearmap; whenever anybody tries to do anything with OSM, there's always a license / attribution backlash. It's really sad, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Adam Killian wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow... Could we please not talk about the girl anymore? This is the kind of behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and gee

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing "free and open license"

2010-07-20 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, andrzej zaborowski wrote: (FWIW I pledge that if I can have a no-CT account (ODbL only), I will register a second account to make a percentage of my edits in PD, especially those modifying objects created by others) Best idea I read so far :) Stefan

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing "free and open license"

2010-07-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, SteveC wrote: We did have a vote, remember? You just disagree with the outcome an the remit the OSMF has. Your mentioned vote didn't have /any/ statistical relevance, not even a vote under the top contributors. But actually in The Netherlands we did :) With again surpri

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 04-07-10 06:23, John Smith schreef: > On 4 July 2010 07:22, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: >> >>> What would make OSM successful in your eyes? >>> >>> I thought one of the goals was to have OSM used more widely? >> >> This is the right type of question

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-02 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: Are there strategic votes pro PD and/or negative to ODbL? I am a strong supporter for the ODbL as I also mention in the last part of my manifesto[1] Now I know who *not* to vote for, I kinda requested the opposite. Stefan

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
Are there strategic votes pro PD and/or negative to ODbL? Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] You have killed accessibility!

2010-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Liz wrote: I have seen a captcha with an option to listen to something. Sorry now that I didn't try it, nor recall where I saw it. http://www.google.com/recaptcha Ask and it is given. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] You have killed accessibility!

2010-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, David Murn wrote: Just wait til she finds out what her 'access' is like this weekend.. On a serious note, how many blind mappers do we have on OSM? Blind users or just interested people are enough. And I can find a zillion reason why a blind person wants to use OSM. St

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
You stole my id ;) I have used osm stickers + ids for that. A photo is on the wiki ;) Stefan Op 2 jun 2010 om 04:29 heeft John Smith het volgende geschreven:\ > It's come up in the past about unique IDs for objects, some people use > OSM IDs for this, however someone has come up with a diffe

Re: [OSM-talk] transport links, timetables and connections

2010-05-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 25-05-10 16:38, Joe Richards schreef: > Does this information even belong in OSM? It seems quite suitable to > storing it, and things like the stop locations and terminal locations, > ticket office locations are ideal in OSM of course, but the st

Re: [OSM-talk] closedstreetmap.org

2010-05-19 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 20-05-10 02:04, SteveC schreef: > If anyone wants the above domain name, let me know as it expires in a month. I'll forward it to my accountmanager at TeleAtlas. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: U

Re: [OSM-talk] new logo

2010-05-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 18-05-10 14:01, Frederik Ramm schreef: > including but not limited to OpenStreetMap.) Interesting that you point it out that way. Because this is exactly not what I've been perceiving when talking to the board members. I actually think 'exclusive

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Fixer - What the.... ?

2010-05-13 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 13-05-10 21:38, Nick Whitelegg schreef: > Just in the middle of an editing session of the Test Way (old railway > north of Southampton now bike/horse/foot trail). Noticed something > called OSM Fixer appears to have deleted loads of nodes and turn

Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation and Location conference in Berlin - 400 euro discount

2010-04-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 15-04-10 10:15, Henk Hoff schreef: > For those of you who love conferences had haven't signed up for the > Navigation and Location Summit in Berlin (June 15-16) yet: since I'm > speaking about OpenStreetMap at this conference I can give you an ext

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Maps on TomTom

2010-04-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote: > It looks quite easy to get a program running on it - the main problem for me > will be graphics - without looking at the kernel sources it is not obvious > how they have coded it - no SDL or GTK libraries listed etc - they might be > wr

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 29-03-10 17:24, Arlindo Pereira schreef: > Just read again my messagem and realized that it sounded a little > arrogant. The thing is that the slums' footpaths are very narrow, > therefore the tracks are way too much unaligned. > > We had a coupl

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 29-03-10 12:14, Arlindo Pereira schreef: > This is a Wikimapa example: http://wikimapa.org.br/mapeados?community_id=5 > > Notice that it is pretty > much as OSM (restaurants, fast food, sports and s

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Maybe, but I am happy with OSMF keeping a low profile. Before the last > election to the OSMF board, lofty plans were circulated how to make OSMF into > a strong organisation with 10.000 members and hire full-time personnel for > fundraising and manag

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
The goals of the OSMF are to facilitate the project. So it could/ should be a goal to look out for worldwide opportunities, not limited to getting sponsors for a single event. Stefan Op 29 mrt 2010 om 10:16 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschreven:\ > Hi, > > Stefan de Kon

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-br] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
The only pattern I see is that the OSMF is not putting the same efforts in fundsraising in compare to the decentralized projects. At least are not successfull at it. Too busy with licenses maybe? (yes that was a flame) Stefan Op 29 mrt 2010 om 09:04 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschr

[OSM-talk] Wikimapa what is it?

2010-03-27 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 http://wikimapa.org.br/ Just on CNN, could someone tell something about it? Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAkuui6MACgkQYH1+F2Rqwn

Re: [OSM-talk] Interleaving GPS traces with video?

2010-03-27 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 27-03-10 19:09, Laurence Penney schreef: > Does anyone have any experience interleaving GPS traces with video? > > Some friends of mine are asking about it in relation to skiing and > motor-racing, but one could also imagine it being of use to ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Student Project Ideas?

2010-03-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-03-10 17:50, Tom Hughes schreef: > Um... It's the Summer of CODE not the Summer of Writing Reports? Interestingly there were projects in the past such as the kornshell project mentored by Sun that actually was not about coding, but about management task to facilitate the placement of some

Re: [OSM-talk] how to remove objects from the database ?

2010-03-07 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 07-03-10 23:32, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schreef: > 1. Download the data in JOSM > 2. Open the search dialog > 3. Search for source=BLAHBLAH or whatever your source tag is > 4. Delete > 5. Upload Obviously it would be better if the import itself was updated. Instead of deleted. Stef

[OSM-talk] Haiti; RIAA against 'filesharers'

2010-03-06 Thread Stefan de Konink
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100305/0317058431.shtml Could anyone of the OSMF make a statement here? How filesharing helped Haiti for example? Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Serious consideration of "Newbie Editor"

2010-02-25 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 25-02-10 10:50, John Smith schreef: > On 25 February 2010 19:42, Liz wrote: >> I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees. >> >> I'd start with the following in the design brief for the "Newbie Editor" >> Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name). >> C

Re: [OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving AND walking navigation

2010-02-18 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 19-02-10 00:31, andrzej zaborowski schreef: > I've been thinking for some time about putting together a database of > methods to access public transport schedules for places around the > world, it could be python code snippets or even better javascript code > or something else. I like this idea

Re: [OSM-talk] Two different ways with the same nodes?

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Stefan Pflumm wrote: > While loading some osm data in a database i realized that there are some > ways with this "problem", so > is this a correct feauture or a mapping error? Anything is allowed, anything that does something useful will materialise the individual ways anywa

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-02-10 15:19, Grant Slater schreef: > On 10 February 2010 14:09, Stefan de Konink wrote: > >> a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has >> edited the Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. >> there is a demonstrated

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-02-10 14:57, Richard Fairhurst schreef: > > Michael Collinson wrote: >> At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and >> OSMF members about the new Contributor Terms. These have been slightly >> modified and the latest version can be seen here >> http://www.osmfound

Re: [OSM-talk] Fun with duplicate nodes

2010-02-10 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-02-10 11:31, Liz schreef: > A very good idea to see what the duplicates are first. > some are multiple different nodes occupying the same place. For example antenna's in the same tower at different heights. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@open

[OSM-talk] Nice Israel policy... to cartographers

2010-02-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
JERUSALEM (AFP)--Israel has banned a Palestinian cartographer specialized in Jewish settlement growth from traveling abroad for six months for security reasons, the Shin Bet internal intelligence service said Monday. The ban applies to Khalil al-Tafakgi, a cartographer at the Arab Studies Socie

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Dave F. wrote: > I realize most people have fallen asleep on this thread, but did anyone > get a detailed report on why OSM was rejected? Since I was the person that called them, the point not to use open data was: it was partial. Business reason; they were still talking to o

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 04-02-10 15:49, Martin Koppenhoefer schreef: > AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes > correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our > data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up > a paragraph that prohibits the use

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-01-31 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 31-01-10 13:54, Kai Krueger schreef: > Even if promoting to the company did not work, it might still be worth > promoting OSM in the media coverage / blogs of the Nav4All shutdown as a > reason why it is important to have free and open map data to prevent > anti-competitive activities by a few l

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-01-31 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 31-01-10 03:59, John Smith schreef: > Anyone feel like promoting OSM? Guys most likely this 'company' is trying to make profit over the name Navteq, Nokia's free offer in the past week and in the same press announcement trying to make some political statements against monopolies. As Maarten

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti; tracks from US SAR

2010-01-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 21-01-10 21:20, Stefan de Konink schreef: > I have just receive some tracklogs from Craig Luecke, Mr. Thank you on > the wiki. GPX is uploaded, so could be used for the alignment of new photos. Trackpoints itself en calibration aeria ~17ft precision near USA embasy can be found here:

[OSM-talk] Haiti; tracks from US SAR

2010-01-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
Hi, I have just receive some tracklogs from Craig Luecke, Mr. Thank you on the wiki. GPX is uploaded, so could be used for the alignment of new photos. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] US Special Forces to build new runway outside PaP]

2010-01-20 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 21-01-10 04:13, Jean-Guilhem Cailton schreef: > With Haitians' comments below the linked article... Great opportunity to make a flight map from this too then, probably good to add beacons, approach and queue. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@ope

Re: [OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 15-01-10 22:26, Claudius schreef: > "We" can't, because the idea of a license is that it applies to anyone > in any situation, but... Nullum ius sine actione / Wo kein Kläger, da > kein Richter / There is no judge, without a complainant So maybe anyone that as objectives to going PD for humanit

[OSM-talk] Can we ditch the publication copyright issues with the Haiti map?

2010-01-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
As subject. Can we just grant anyone that want to report news, help on site, to use vector and bitmap data without creative commons madness? I think it is very ethical to say yes to the above. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Unions seem to be complaining about potential job losses if OS data is given away for free..

2010-01-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 10-01-10 05:30, John Smith schreef: > http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4826436.New_threat_to_jobs_at_Southampton_s_Ordnance_Survey/ Sounds like the OS didn't have a R&D department nor a business department. If your entire operation is based around "we do something, you can buy it", then any co

Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, enqd wrote: > I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on OSM. > The images are here: > ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/ > > Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add > streets and places on OSM. > Hope someone ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Google launches "Indigenous Mapping" workshop

2009-12-23 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 23-12-09 21:35, Roy Wallace schreef: > Via > http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2009/12/indigenous-mapping-new-google.html > > "Google and the Indigenous Mapping Network are teaming up to put on a > two day workshop on the Google campus to teach people from native > communities how to use Googl

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 SteveC schreef: > On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> SteveC schreef: >>> Why don't you do it then, try and fork to CC

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Frederik, Frederik Ramm schreef: > Stefan de Konink wrote: >> Exactly; if your statement is sound. CC-BY-SA doesn't protect us, thus >> doesn't protect us against ourselves, thus OSMF could declare the data >> toda

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 SteveC schreef: > Why don't you do it then, try and fork to CC0 or PD with planet.osm ? Because I'm not convinced that CC-BY-SA won't hold ;) Especially related some recent cases over here with the claim "This was our intention" the intention for OS

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 SteveC schreef: > You're really advocating switching license without asking anyone? Isn't he merely stating that if you truly believe CC-BY-SA doesn't protect the data, you don't have to ask anyone to do so? >>> to do what, relicense? >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 SteveC schreef: > On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> SteveC schreef: >>> You're really advocating switching license witho

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