Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-08 Thread Gervase Markham
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gervase Markham wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's | essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some | kind of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-08 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gervase Markham wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's | essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some | kind of assignment. Wikipedia is the nearest, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-07 Thread Gervase Markham
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some kind of assignment. Wikipedia is the nearest, but Wikipedia is a collection of articles that all stand on their own. Can you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan S Hatcher
My apologies but the DBL text seems to be mis-formatted -- probably as a result of my last wordpress update. It should be fixed now, but just in case the downloads offer the canonical version. Thanks! ~Jordan Mr. Jordan S Hatcher, JD, LLM jordan at opencontentlawyer dot com OC Blog:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Jordan S Hatcher wrote: I'd like to note that, just to clarify, factual data is generally not copyrightable, and so there would be nothing to assign. Why is it that we are assuming (and I'm not just saying this to Jordan) that the individual nodes and ways in OSM are factual data? I don't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gervase Markham wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | Long term, we can avoid the ambiguity by making it clear that all data | belongs to OSM, whoever that is (probably the foundation), then we can | let the foundation change the license whenever

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan S Hatcher
On 6 Feb 2008, at 12:19, Gervase Markham wrote: I think it's important to point out that commercial companies protecting their data do not allow their users to share it, and so most of their protection is based around this. By allowing others to share the work freely, you lose many of these

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-05 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:35 AM 2/5/2008, Rob Myers wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: I'm still think that the foundation owns everyone's data already. When you sign up, it says: By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to openstreetmap.org and all data created by use of any tools which

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Myers wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: | | I'm still think that the foundation owns everyone's data already. When | you sign up, it says: | By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to | openstreetmap.org and all data created by

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-04 Thread Axel Marquette
Le 4 févr. 08 à 19:22, Tom Chance a écrit : This sounds like a nightmare: I could lose weeks of work because someone who fails to reply played with Potlatch once for a few minutes and then vanished. You have a better idea? :-) No, but it's a bit scary without having any good idea of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-04 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:47:44 +, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 13:46, David Earl wrote: how do we avoid the situation where e.g. someone who disagrees the new license has run a bot over all of Cambridge to tweak things (as has indeed happened to many of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-04 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Axel Marquette wrote: | Le 4 févr. 08 à 19:22, Tom Chance a écrit : | | This sounds like a nightmare: I could lose weeks of work because | someone who fails to reply played with Potlatch once for a few | minutes and then vanished. | You have a better