Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
data, you may distribute the result only under the same licence"); in the CC "human-readable" terms; and the CC legal code. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-CC-BY-SA-Non-separatable-combination-of-OSM-other-tp5982104p5990496.html

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-03 Thread Anthony
  The license doesn't even mention "data", and attribution is not enough. >>> >>> OSM applies the license to data - the license attribution it requests >>> specifically mentions "Map data". >> >> Again, who wrote the license attribution request?  Not me.  In fact, >> I'm not even sure wha

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-03 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 03/02/11 14:23, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Jonathan Harley wrote: On 03/02/11 04:21, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Harleywrote: I think we may have differing interpretations of the intent of the license. Mine is that the license is supposed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Peter Miller wrote: > The strict view expressed above by Frederick and others would mean that it > would be impossible to use osm mapping as a bacground for this crime data as > in the chart, 'Violent crime in the USA' unless the overlaid data was also > on an open

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/02/11 18:00, Peter Miller wrote: The strict view expressed above by Frederick and others would mean that it would be impossible to use osm mapping as a bacground for this crime data as in the chart, 'Violent crime in the USA' unless the overlaid data was also on an open licence or the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Peter Miller
I have been following the discussion but have been in meetings today so haven't been able to contribute. I agree we can discuss at lenght what 'separable' and 'unmodified' mean as abstract concepts but, as usual with legal contracts, the words will be interpreted in a particular context. It is pr

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 02/02/11 16:15, Anthony wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Harley wrote: I think Peter is right - as long as the CC-BY[-SA] content is unmodified, it can be assembled with other things to form a collective work. The CC-BY[-SA] licenses do not say that they still have to be sepa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/02/11 15:59, Jonathan Harley wrote: By referring to a collective whole, it seems to me that the license is asserting that such a thing can exist. I think Peter is right - as long Oh I see, I didn't realise that's the wording of the licence. That's an unfortunate turn of phrase then. :-)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Harley wrote: > I think Peter is right - as long as > the CC-BY[-SA] content is unmodified, it can be assembled with other things to > form a collective work. The CC-BY[-SA] licenses do not say that they still > have > to be separate and independent after

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 02/02/11 13:21, Rob Myers wrote: On 02/01/2011 06:17 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Peter says that I would consider the proposed resulting work to be 'two or more distinct, separate and independent works selected and arranged into a collective whole with the ccbysa content being used in an enti