Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-03 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Someone pushing a bike IS a pedestrian and thus isn't misusing a footway. Maybe I have not made myself clear (maybe the word push has some meaning I didn't know about) but I meant someone walking next to his bike! Please, take my apologies, I got your statement

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Alex Mauer schrieb: The new highway value path has been approved. It received 31 votes, 22 in favor and 9 against, with 3 abstentions. The new access value designated has been approved. It received 32 votes, 19 in favor and 13 against, with 2 abstentions The deprecation of footway,

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Alex Mauer
The new highway value path has been approved. It received 31 votes, 22 in favor and 9 against, with 3 abstentions. The new access value designated has been approved. It received 32 votes, 19 in favor and 13 against, with 2 abstentions The deprecation of footway, bridleway, and cycleway in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Alex Mauer
Karl Eichwalder wrote: Define appropriate. Otherwise it cannot. A cycleway (Radweg) is somethig very special in Germany (unfortunately). It does not equal to a path where you are allowed to cycle. You are _forced_ to make use of this way if it accompanies the street. Of course, here in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Alex Mauer schrieb: The access restrictions on the road (no bicycles if there is an accompanying cycle route) don't affect the access on the cycle route itself. Obviously legality of use by other modes of transportation will vary by jurisdiction (In some places cycleway implies moped=yes,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Alex Mauer
Karl Eichwalder wrote: Alex Mauer schrieb: The access restrictions on the road (no bicycles if there is an accompanying cycle route) don't affect the access on the cycle route itself. Obviously legality of use by other modes of transportation will vary by jurisdiction (In some places

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Jun 2008, at 21:31, Alex Mauer wrote: Karl Eichwalder wrote: Alex Mauer schrieb: The access restrictions on the road (no bicycles if there is an accompanying cycle route) don't affect the access on the cycle route itself. Obviously legality of use by other modes of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I would also like to see the value bicycle=dismount, for short sections where cyclists have to dismount as part of the cycle network. I should expect any good bike routing algorithm to consider footways as well, with speed suitable for walking. I'm not aware of any footway were you are

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 02 June 2008 10:30 PM To: Shaun McDonald Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Alex Mauer Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path,designated. Rejected: *way deprecation Hi, I would also like to see the value bicycle=dismount, for short sections where cyclists have

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would also like to see the value bicycle=dismount, for short sections where cyclists have to dismount as part of the cycle network. I should expect any good bike routing algorithm to consider footways as well,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Shaun McDonald schrieb: If the use of the cycle is required, and the only other path is the road, then putting bicycle=no on the road will cause routing algorithms for cyclists to push the cyclist to the adjacent cycleway. This would be wrong in Germany. Using the road is not forbidden in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Approved: path, designated. Rejected: *way deprecation

2008-06-02 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) schrieb: Frederik Ramm wrote: I should expect any good bike routing algorithm to consider footways as well, with speed suitable for walking. I'm not aware of any footway were you are not allowed to push your bike. Just start cycling next weekend, 50km and