Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-31 Thread Steve Chilton
Islands are named (on mapnik layer) if you use the place=island tag. Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Manager of e-Learning Academic Development Centre for Learning and Quality Enhancement Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-30 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can mapnik automatically render names for smaller towns in lower zoom >> levels if there is room for the labels? Or should we have a >> "mapnik_zoom_level=6" tag? This is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-29 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Names! There are far too few names on the map, especially on low zoom >> levels. It's difficult to get a feeling for where you are and

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Inge Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Names! There are far too few names on the map, especially on low zoom > levels. It's difficult to get a feeling for where you are and orient yourself > on the map if you cannot find names on the map. The commercial maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Inge Wallin wrote: >Sent: 28 July 2008 1:33 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk]Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of >the current maps > snip. >Two things. First: YES, please make it easier to create suitable adapted >maps. Second: My po

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Jochen Topf wrote: > I find 207 000 places in Europe and only 57 000 population tags. I've just done my bit by adding a population tag to Guildford. Only 149,999 places to go -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Brian Quinion
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capitals >>> If I can use that, then I can find all the capitals, and just tag them. >> How about geonames database - is that usable? > We cannot use data from geonames as the data is derived from Google Maps. > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/piper

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
Brian Quinion wrote: >> One would think that getting all of the capitals tagged would be easy, >> however going and grabbing it from sites linked to google I'm assuming would >> almost certainly be a no no. >> >> Can we use information from wikipedia? >> >> For example. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Sven GrĂ¼ner
spaetz schrieb: > There is always population=20, etc which can help you to find the > biggest ones. And what prevents us from adding capital=yes to those > cities? I don't think that the tagging is insufficient today. OK > there might be a more subjective "important" city tag, and there are > p

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Brian Quinion
> One would think that getting all of the capitals tagged would be easy, > however going and grabbing it from sites linked to google I'm assuming would > almost certainly be a no no. > > Can we use information from wikipedia? > > For example. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_capita

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > * The Logo in the upper left of openstreetmap.org said "The Free Wiki World > Map" (not "Geodata Collection"). > * The first sentence of the text under the logo said "OpenStreetMap is a > free > editable map of the whole world.", not "...is a free collection of geo data" > > It's easy

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/7/28 Jochen Topf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:48:15PM +0200, spaetz wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:21:05PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > > > > > The biggest problem around place names is currently that there are only > > > a few levels for places: city, town, village,

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:48:15PM +0200, spaetz wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:21:05PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > > > The biggest problem around place names is currently that there are only > > a few levels for places: city, town, village, hamlet and suburb. And there > > is no way to mark

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/7/28 spaetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:21:05PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > > > The biggest problem around place names is currently that there are only > > a few levels for places: city, town, village, hamlet and suburb. And > there > > is no way to mark capitals. > > The

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread spaetz
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:21:05PM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote: > The biggest problem around place names is currently that there are only > a few levels for places: city, town, village, hamlet and suburb. And there > is no way to mark capitals. There is always population=20, etc which can help y

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:16:53PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [...] > change our maps to make them suitable for your purpose, but we should > enable YOU to create maps that are suitable for your purpose and others > with the same requirements. Yes, we should. So lets see about the things Inge

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > It's quite telling that if you look on the > UK roadgeek site, www.sabre-roads.org.uk (dominated by motorists), > they don't quite get OSM: they just whinge about lack of completeness. Same here with pocketnavigation.de... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Inge Wallin wrote: > * Distinctions between roads. In opposition to the case for names, there are > too many roads on the large scale maps. Here is what the current map looks > like around my home city: > http://www.openstreetmap.com/?lat=58.33&lon=15.408&zoom=10&layers=0B0FTF > There is too litt

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > So, what are other use cases for OSM? Are the current OSM renderings good for > those use cases? Do we need more different renderings for different use > cases? We are not a map rendering project. We are a Geodata collection project. The fact that we have maps at all is more or less to s

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/07/2008 10:44, Inge Wallin wrote: > So the question then becomes, is the current renderings good? For which > purposes? Everyone will have their own desires and requirements. To achieve what people want, I think easy configurability is what is needed. Pre-rendered map tiles make that har

[OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Inge Wallin
This is a mail that I have been wanting to send for some time, but wanted to think a little more about the subject before I actually did. The topic is how the maps of OpenStreetMap are actually used by ordinary users. I know that the data of OSM is supposed to be used in new exciting ways like