Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2019 09:37, Christoph Hormann wrote: ... There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are able to develop and run bots

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 February 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > But: If you engage in the collaborative writing of a document with > others, and one of them decides to replace all occurrences of "Open > Source Software" with "Free and Open Source Software" (for example), > by using a search-and-replace

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Christoph, you recognize yourself that your position is a bit extreme about this. Personally, I have an issue with Wikipedia which, at least in some less-frequently visited corners of the project, often looks more like a bot playground than a collaborative project by humans. This negative

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Monday, February 25, 2019, Christoph Hormann wrote: > Now the question if aristocratic governance would be beneficial for the > OSM wiki compared to the anarchy we currently have more or less is > something i would be open to discuss. But basing membership in the > aristocratic class on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 February 2019, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > If that is an essential concern for you, I have bad news about the > Openstreetmap database... > > Robots are not sovereign entities: they are puppets to humans and > therefore bound to human rules, to which supplementary restrictions > are

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 2/25/19 10:37 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are able to develop and run bots would

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 February 2019, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > For the benefit of people who don't know the background, it's worth > mentioning that these bot edits did not distort the actual meaning of > the wiki pages, but were purely performing a trivial technical > maintenance task. Yes, the defense of

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2019-02-24 11:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: Yesterday was the first time (that i am ware of at least) a bot has edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist - with today and yesterday combined 17 edits of tag and key pages spamming my watchlist feed. I'm not sure if it's on by default, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Tobias, thank you for clarification. The lang parameter was very often incorrect because people copy/pasted it without changing. I did a minor clean up with a manual inspection of every edit - similar to many of my previous edits (by "yurik" account), but with the bot+minor flag to avoid exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 19:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: > a bot has edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist Diff(s), please. > spamming my watchlist feed Its possible to exclude bot edits from watchlists; note the checkbox at the top of your watchlist; and the "advanced options" sections of

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 24.02.19 20:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: > I mainly wanted to make everyone who is not active on the wiki aware of > this. For the benefit of people who don't know the background, it's worth mentioning that these bot edits did not distort the actual meaning of the wiki pages, but were purely

[OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
Yesterday was the first time (that i am ware of at least) a bot has edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist - with today and yesterday combined 17 edits of tag and key pages spamming my watchlist feed. I mainly wanted to make everyone who is not active on the wiki aware of this. Should bots