On 25/02/2019 09:37, Christoph Hormann wrote:
... There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one
that
is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a
two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are
able to develop and run bots woul
On Monday 25 February 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> But: If you engage in the collaborative writing of a document with
> others, and one of them decides to replace all occurrences of "Open
> Source Software" with "Free and Open Source Software" (for example),
> by using a search-and-replace mechan
Christoph,
you recognize yourself that your position is a bit extreme about this.
Personally, I have an issue with Wikipedia which, at least in some
less-frequently visited corners of the project, often looks more like a
bot playground than a collaborative project by humans. This negative
impress
On Monday, February 25, 2019, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Now the question if aristocratic governance would be beneficial for the
> OSM wiki compared to the anarchy we currently have more or less is
> something i would be open to discuss. But basing membership in the
> aristocratic class on the te
On Monday 25 February 2019, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
>
> If that is an essential concern for you, I have bad news about the
> Openstreetmap database...
>
> Robots are not sovereign entities: they are puppets to humans and
> therefore bound to human rules, to which supplementary restrictions
> are a
On 2/25/19 10:37 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that
is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a
two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are
able to develop and run bots would for
On Monday 25 February 2019, Tobias Knerr wrote:
>
> For the benefit of people who don't know the background, it's worth
> mentioning that these bot edits did not distort the actual meaning of
> the wiki pages, but were purely performing a trivial technical
> maintenance task.
Yes, the defense of t
On 2019-02-24 11:18, Christoph Hormann wrote:
Yesterday was the first time (that i am ware of at least) a bot has
edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist - with today and yesterday
combined 17 edits of tag and key pages spamming my watchlist feed.
I'm not sure if it's on by default, but
Tobias, thank you for clarification. The lang parameter was very often
incorrect because people copy/pasted it without changing. I did a minor
clean up with a manual inspection of every edit - similar to many of my
previous edits (by "yurik" account), but with the bot+minor flag to avoid
exactly
On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 19:18, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> a bot has edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist
Diff(s), please.
> spamming my watchlist feed
Its possible to exclude bot edits from watchlists; note the checkbox
at the top of your watchlist; and the "advanced options" sections of
the
On 24.02.19 20:18, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> I mainly wanted to make everyone who is not active on the wiki aware of
> this.
For the benefit of people who don't know the background, it's worth
mentioning that these bot edits did not distort the actual meaning of
the wiki pages, but were purely p
Yesterday was the first time (that i am ware of at least) a bot has
edited an OSM wiki page on my watchlist - with today and yesterday
combined 17 edits of tag and key pages spamming my watchlist feed.
I mainly wanted to make everyone who is not active on the wiki aware of
this.
Should bots c
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